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Monday, April 23, 2012 5:12 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Just for you, Chris, just for you...


Feminists have met the enemy … and the enemy is LEGO
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/20/feminists-have-met-the-enemy-and
-the-enemy-is-lego
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The feminist outrage of the day is at a new LEGO product line — “LEGO Friends,” which features LadyFigs (cute and slightly curvy girl figurines) and construction sets for a hot tub, a splash pool, a beauty parlor, an outdoor bakery, a convertible and an inventor’s workshop.

Predictably, some feminists are upset at such “stereotyping of preferred pastimes for girls.” (Yes, I do seem to recall that girls have been encouraged to be inventors since at least the time of Edison.)

“What it’s doing is telling girls that this is what’s important to you,” Dana Edell, director of the SPARK movement, told Fox News. “Girls aren’t building space shuttles, they’re getting their nails done.”

The SPARK movement launched a petition against the product line and collected 55,000 signatures — enough to nab a meeting today with LEGO to voice their criticisms directly to the LEGO brand relations director. A LEGO spokesman says the company welcomes both complimentary and critical feedback and will take it into account.

The SPARK movement specifically objects to the sexualization of women in the media — and that’s a goal with which I’m sympathetic. When it comes to the little LEGO figurines, they’d be on somewhat solid ground if they were to complain about the LadyFigs’ attire. The figurines’ shirts and shorts are pretty skimpy! Instead, Edell objected to their “little breasts and fancy hair.” I’m assuming she didn’t mean to imply the LEGO Friends should have big breasts; she meant to imply they shouldn’t have girlish figures at all, but should be every bit as boxy as LEGO men. (What’s wrong with “fancy hair”? I’m sure I don’t know.)

As always, my concern is that feminists seem to want to obliterate gender difference entirely. Like the women of the SPARK movement, I want women to know they’re capable to construct space shuttles, but I don’t want us to think we’re like men – because we’re not. And yes, that fact is inscribed into our very bodies, so depictions of women should look different than depictions of men. Such depictions shouldn’t reduce women to their bodies – that’s the sexualization and objectification to which all women should object – but it shouldn’t deny the very real differences in the appearances of men and women.

At any rate, the entire SPARK movement campaign misses the broader point: LEGO wasn’t sexualizing girls by introducing LEGO Friends, nor was it trying to box girls into specific roles. LEGO didn’t bar parents from buying their daughters traditional LEGO toys and they didn’t bar parents from buying their sons LEGO Friends. They just gave parents an additional option — and the success rate of the line so far suggests some parents like it. If feminists don’t, they don’t have to buy the products.

But also — I fail to see how the feminist preoccupation with convincing girls and women that they don’t care about “traditional female pastimes” is any different than the preoccupation with convincing girls and women that they do. Shouldn’t feminists leave it up to girls themselves to decide what interests them and what they want to do with their lives?


That last paragraph just nails it for me - essentially it's the same argument I make at Anarchists who wanna remove services or structures other people WANT, getting so focused on going in one direction leaves the notion of compromise in the dust, don't it now ?

-Frem

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Monday, April 23, 2012 6:19 AM

STORYMARK


Good point. Im all for not limiting the options out there for women - even by other women. This brings to mind my sister-in-law (who is giving birth to my neice pretty much as I type this) - she has completely banned pink from the house - no decorations, toys, clothing - no pink allowed, because Mom doesn't want her daughter being too girly. And I just wonder.... what if the kid ends up liking pink?

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, April 23, 2012 6:38 AM

BYTEMITE


Uh. I mean, they might have grounds based on the other settings (beauty parlor/ bakery), but the figure of the lady-legos? Are only certain womenly figures acceptable in this crazy modern future?

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As always, my concern is that feminists seem to want to obliterate gender difference entirely.


I take offense to that though, and as usual I question anyone who wants to make women out to be so very different than men because there are some troubling agendas out there about proper gender roles that sometimes ride in on the coattails here. But I don't want to get into it. Frankly, people focus way too much on gender differences. Who gives a damn.

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Monday, April 23, 2012 6:47 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Lego boys like cute, curvy lego girls at the pool party.

Sorry, but that's just how they were made.





" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein


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Monday, April 23, 2012 6:48 AM

BYTEMITE


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Originally posted by Storymark:
Good point. Im all for not limiting the options out there for women - even by other women. This brings to mind my sister-in-law (who is giving birth to my neice pretty much as I type this) - she has completely banned pink from the house - no decorations, toys, clothing - no pink allowed, because Mom doesn't want her daughter being too girly. And I just wonder.... what if the kid ends up liking pink?




Pink used to be a boy colour. Seriously. Because it had some proximal connotations with blood. Blue was a girl colour, which is why you often see the Virgin Mary in paintings wearing blue.

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Monday, April 23, 2012 6:49 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Lego boys like cute, curvy lego girls at the pool party.

Sorry, but that's just how they were made.





I see what you did there...and I approve!



I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Monday, April 23, 2012 6:58 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Lego boys like cute, curvy lego girls at the pool party.

Sorry, but that's just how they were made.





" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein




We're all just folk, aren't we? You can notice and admire how people look, I have no problem, ideally that should be reciprocated, but beyond reproductive and romantic considerations it's the treating people different that starts to lose me.

And even there, I'm not saying you have to be all inclusive and partner up with everyone. If someone likes the monogamy go for it. But I have come to notice from the lamentations of both men and women asking me for advice that the dating world is a labyrinthian mess of crossed signals and unintuitive social customs that appear to greatly impede the end function. There's WEIRD STUFF all over in there about broad gender generalizations and treating both genders horribly. It makes me distressed at the prospects of the future of the human race.

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Monday, April 23, 2012 7:35 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
It makes me distressed at the prospects of the future of the human race.



We're still talking LEGOS, right ?





" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein


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Monday, April 23, 2012 7:45 AM

BYTEMITE


Side tangent, sorry. I do that sometimes.

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Monday, April 23, 2012 10:59 AM

WISHIMAY


Mah kid likes pink and fashion stuff AND watching This Old House with her mom, and Pirate movies with her dad.

Just let 'em be, says I...

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Monday, April 23, 2012 11:02 AM

BYTEMITE


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Just let 'em be, says I...


Agreed. They're going to be who they are, and trying to reprogram them to conform to some social norm is just going to damage them.

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Monday, April 23, 2012 2:35 PM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

The figurines’ shirts and shorts are pretty skimpy! Instead, Edell objected to their “little breasts and fancy hair.” I’m assuming she didn’t mean to imply the LEGO Friends should have big breasts; she meant to imply they shouldn’t have girlish figures at all, but should be every bit as boxy as LEGO men. (What’s wrong with “fancy hair”? I’m sure I don’t know.)




For the record, pretty much every damn doll they touch is over-sexualized, look at Slutz...*cough* I mean Bratz dolls....I tactfully minimalized some, and am glad she's done with Barbies, but ya can't fight everything. Pretty sure the makeup and lingerie ads are worse for 'em than bits of plastic... That and the whoa's! walking around town I swear there was a group of hookers(not the sexy kind) in Wally World the other day, rare for these parts... We're moving up in the world!

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Monday, April 23, 2012 4:26 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Just for you, Chris, just for you...



From the title, I conjured a less... tame... thread.

As far as toys goes, this is the last 'sexualized' one I bought...



I have Night Owl too.

Chrisisall, wearing a frilly Mal thing on his head, and ready to shoot unarmed, full-body armoured Operatives

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Monday, April 23, 2012 6:15 PM

BYTEMITE


I think that's supposed to be ironic.

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