Fukushima and other predicaments by DREAMTROVE

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Fukushima and other predicaments

POSTED BY: DREAMTROVE
UPDATED: Saturday, June 9, 2012 19:58
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Saturday, June 9, 2012 2:30 PM

I'm sorry, but this is well over a year of me not commenting on this ongoing non-event, and I need to wedge in a comment here: so what?

Sure, it's a disaster, like a spill, or an accident, 78 tons of partially depleted radioactive U-235/U238 mix of heavy metal was washed into an oceanic tidal wave, and some of the residue landed in the regional watershed. Radioactive refined uranium is a human heath hazard and biohazard, I get that, but on a matter of scale, it's more of one than DU, and less of one than DCM.

Roughly 35,000 wells were fracked in the US, each with a mixture of 250,000 gallons of water to 60,000 gallons of CFC mixture. 50% of the chemical mixture was splashed back and in one way or another dispersed into the watershed. That means that biohazard level and quantity of each frack was higher than that of the fukushima disaster.

Next, the BP oil spill debacle, one million gallons of high-level biohazardous Corexit were intentionally poured onto a spill of over 200 million of low-level hazard petroleum spilled off the gulf coast.

We poured 12 million gallons of chlorophenoxyacetic acid onto the countryside of the sovereign nation of vietnam with myriad measurable deleterious effects, and have likely continued in many similar chemical weapons campains in recent years.

IMHO, we would spend our efforts better in collecting data on, and strategize to combat, the various ongoing deliberate chemical contamination "salt the earth" campaigns ongoing around the globe through the abuse of WMDs such as TCE than to, Not to belittle the disaster, but than to spend much more effort in panicking about the sky falling over a blown steam engine.

Considering that numerous accidents of natural gas resulting in a large number of measurable deaths has not even stalled our pursuit of this energy, nor did deep water horizon stop us form consuming oil, it is not too surprising that Fukushima did not lead to a ban on nuclear energy for a nation that has no natural alternatives of its own such as a fossil fuel base.

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Saturday, June 9, 2012 4:12 PM

BYTEMITE

You're making an argument I've shot down with other people: just because you think there are BIGGER problems doesn't mean something isn't a problem.

I don't think it's as big a problem as other people on this board, which is par for the course, really. I don't imagine due to dispersal that we're really going to see a whole lot of it here. It sinks, both as particulate in water, and fallout in air. Iodine is more soluable, but it has a short half-life.

However, I don't know how much the Japanese are lying to their own people, I suspect it's a lot, and it's also become clear that when they aren't lying they aren't thinking carefully enough about where the stuff might have fallen and what might be impacted. Just recently there was an article posted here that they were using mined rock material from a quarry not three miles from the plant to mix concrete. And they are too scared it seems to assess all the fish they eat for radiation. It's a mess. The Japanese are going to have a lot of problems.

Aside from some donations I made to help with rebuilding, it's not really anything that's very on my horizon. I have a lot closer nuclear issues living around here. So it's not to say you're WRONG, but I don't jive with scolding people for being concerned.

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Saturday, June 9, 2012 7:58 PM

DREAMTROVE

Byte,

This bitching about the end of the world hinging on this one hazmat spill has been going on for a year. It's just more religious chicken little nonsense. Yeah, I expressed concern at the time over the local japanese in the area who probably have an increased rate of cancer, but I gave up when people started panicking about fallout crossing the pacific. That's just absurd. Sure, a detectable trace will go everywhere, but the size of the pacific is enough to make the fallout of fukushima just normal standard deviation of radioactive isotopes, it's not going to affect our lives.

Here's what I hate about this sort of panic: it is always tailor made to enable the passage of some radical agenda or other.

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