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Key senator promises tax reform plan

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Monday, June 11, 2012 4:25 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, how I WISH!
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Calling the U.S. tax code the "worst of all worlds," Sen. Max Baucus said Monday he is working on a detailed tax reform proposal that he promised would draw bipartisan support.

Baucus, the top Democratic tax writer in the Senate, also suggested that his proposal would raise more revenue than the current tax system.

"Deficits and debt are not just a spending problem. Revenues as a share of GDP over the past few years are the lowest they have been since World War II. We simply don't raise enough revenue," he said in a speech at the Bipartisan Policy Center in Washington, D.C.

Baucus noted that policymakers will need to rethink the hundreds of tax breaks on the books.

"Tax breaks have doubled since 1986," he said. "They now cost as much in revenue as the entire income tax brings in."

In 2011, the government collected $2.3 trillion in revenue -- of which $1.1 trillion comes from the individual income tax and $181 billion from corporations.

Baucus, who chairs the Senate Finance Committee, likened the current tax code to Hydra, the mythical beast with many heads who grows back two every time one is chopped off.

Case in point: In 1986, the last time Congress overhauled the tax code, there were 14 "temporary" tax breaks on the books. Today there are 132, many of which have been automatically extended time and again.

And complexity has grown throughout the tax code. Baucus noted that since 1986, there have been 15,000 changes made to the tax code.

No one realistically expects Congress to adequately address tax reform before the end of the year.

One big reason: Lawmakers have to address the so-called fiscal cliff -- a set of tax hikes and spending cuts that would take more than $500 billion out of the economy in 2013 alone -- enough to cause a recession, economists say.

Another reason why: There's really no broad agreement on the starting point for tax reform, like how much revenue the tax system should raise, said Howard Gleckman, editor of the blog TaxVox.

And both parties will have a hard time beating back lobbyists whose job it is to ensure that the industries they represent get a good tax deal. http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/11/news/economy/us-tax-reform/index.htm?h
pt=hp_bn3

You bedda believe that last part! Personally, I don't see it happening any time soon...or maybe in my lifetime!

Gee, whiz, given all those tax breaks, I wonder how anyone can figure out exactly WHAT the wealthy and corporations pay...that is, those that pay ANY taxes...

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Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:03 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Probably should start with the biggest loopholes first, and get those corporations paying their fair share.

Per the N.Y. Times, the three biggest tax breaks are:

Exclusion of employer-provided health insurance from employee's taxable income, which costs slightly more than the combined budgets of the departments of Education, Enengy, Homeland Security, Justice, State and Veterans Affairs.

Mortgage interest deduction for home owners, which costs about the same as the military's R&D budget.

Exclusion for individuals' 401k contributions, which costs what the Medicare prescription drug benefit does.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17TopDown-t.html?_r=1

Yep. Dropping those tax breaks would sure stick it to the corporations.

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Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:20 AM

STORYMARK


Great idea - lets put more burden on the middle class, lest we anger the corporate overlords, right Geezer?


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:52 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


It would help if we stop taxing capital gains at a lower rate.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:08 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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Originally posted by Storymark:
Great idea - lets put more burden on the middle class, lest we anger the corporate overlords, right Geezer?




Seems to be what Niki's proposing.

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Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:04 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


More on tax breaks.

The 10 biggest corporate tax breaks cost the government around $125 billion in taxes a year. http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2011/02/09/10-Big-Corporate-Tax
-Breaks.aspx#page1

Seems like a good bit.

The three biggest individual tax breaks that I noted above, however, cost around $407 billion a year. If you add in other home ownership stuff like property tax deduction and capital gains exclusion on the sale of a home, its over $450 billion. http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2011/05/13/Longtime-Tax-Breaks-M
ay-Get-Booted-by-the-Budget.aspx#page1


Pretty much any way you look at it, most tax breaks benefit individuals, not the corporations.

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