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1kiki doesn't know the difference between a CLAIM and a FACT
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:46 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:12 AM
STORYMARK
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:09 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by STORYMARK: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Oh, the irony is almost too much to take. "Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:33 AM
MAL4PREZ
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:40 AM
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:20 PM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Quote:1kiki doesn't know the difference between a CLAIM and a FACT
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 1:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: " The fruits of community organizing " - a claim, albeit absurd, is laughable and clearly false. The above could also be called a boast ( if true ) or a flat out lie, as it would be known to not be true, by me before hand, when I tried to pass it off as fact.
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:43 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:12 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So, just so we're all clear here, Rappy... Are you now CLAIMING that you never intended to link community organizing or President Obama to the violence in Chicago since he left there? Because that is a FACT: all the violent episodes you've cited occurred SINCE OBAMA LEFT CHICAGO AND STOPPED COMMUNITY ORGANIZING THERE. You admit the FACT that there's no causal link between Obama's coming from Chicago and that city's recent violence. Do I have that right? Is that a FACT that you're CLAIMING that? "I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero "I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:46 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:59 PM
Quote: 6IX... Are you really sticking up for rappy? If so, you should pick your friends better!
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So, just so we're all clear here, Rappy... Are you now CLAIMING that you never intended to link community organizing or President Obama to the violence in Chicago since he left there? Because that is a FACT: all the violent episodes you've cited occurred SINCE OBAMA LEFT CHICAGO AND STOPPED COMMUNITY ORGANIZING THERE. You admit the FACT that there's no causal link between Obama's coming from Chicago and that city's recent violence. Do I have that right? Is that a FACT that you're CLAIMING that?
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So, just so we're all clear here, Rappy... Are you now CLAIMING that you never intended to link community organizing or President Obama to the violence in Chicago since he left there? Because that is a FACT: all the violent episodes you've cited occurred SINCE OBAMA LEFT CHICAGO AND STOPPED COMMUNITY ORGANIZING THERE. You admit the FACT that there's no causal link between Obama's coming from Chicago and that city's recent violence. Do I have that right? Is that a FACT that you're CLAIMING that? Doesn't' matter if I tried to claim a link or not... the facts are that Obama community organized in a city that's pretty darn violent. Doesn't matter that other cities may be as or more violent, at all. Doesn't change the FACTS. And as the violence spiked after he left, that only goes to show what poor seeds he planted, or that his actions were utterly fruitless.
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So, just so we're all clear here, Rappy... Are you now CLAIMING that you never intended to link community organizing or President Obama to the violence in Chicago since he left there? Because that is a FACT: all the violent episodes you've cited occurred SINCE OBAMA LEFT CHICAGO AND STOPPED COMMUNITY ORGANIZING THERE. You admit the FACT that there's no causal link between Obama's coming from Chicago and that city's recent violence. Do I have that right? Is that a FACT that you're CLAIMING that? Doesn't' matter if I tried to claim a link or not... the facts are that Obama community organized in a city that's pretty darn violent. Doesn't matter that other cities may be as or more violent, at all. Doesn't change the FACTS. And as the violence spiked after he left, that only goes to show what poor seeds he planted, or that his actions were utterly fruitless. Huh. Sounds like you're saying that if there's any spike in violence now that our troops are out of Iraq, it will prove that the war and occupation were utterly fruitless. Is that the analogy you intended to make? "I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero "I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So, just so we're all clear here, Rappy... Are you now CLAIMING that you never intended to link community organizing or President Obama to the violence in Chicago since he left there? Because that is a FACT: all the violent episodes you've cited occurred SINCE OBAMA LEFT CHICAGO AND STOPPED COMMUNITY ORGANIZING THERE. You admit the FACT that there's no causal link between Obama's coming from Chicago and that city's recent violence. Do I have that right? Is that a FACT that you're CLAIMING that? Doesn't' matter if I tried to claim a link or not... the facts are that Obama community organized in a city that's pretty darn violent. Doesn't matter that other cities may be as or more violent, at all. Doesn't change the FACTS. And as the violence spiked after he left, that only goes to show what poor seeds he planted, or that his actions were utterly fruitless. Huh. Sounds like you're saying that if there's any spike in violence now that our troops are out of Iraq, it will prove that the war and occupation were utterly fruitless. Is that the analogy you intended to make?
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:20 AM
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So, just so we're all clear here, Rappy... Are you now CLAIMING that you never intended to link community organizing or President Obama to the violence in Chicago since he left there? Because that is a FACT: all the violent episodes you've cited occurred SINCE OBAMA LEFT CHICAGO AND STOPPED COMMUNITY ORGANIZING THERE. You admit the FACT that there's no causal link between Obama's coming from Chicago and that city's recent violence. Do I have that right? Is that a FACT that you're CLAIMING that? Doesn't' matter if I tried to claim a link or not... the facts are that Obama community organized in a city that's pretty darn violent. Doesn't matter that other cities may be as or more violent, at all. Doesn't change the FACTS. And as the violence spiked after he left, that only goes to show what poor seeds he planted, or that his actions were utterly fruitless. Huh. Sounds like you're saying that if there's any spike in violence now that our troops are out of Iraq, it will prove that the war and occupation were utterly fruitless. Is that the analogy you intended to make? Said nothing what so ever about Iraq. The issue was Chicago and the violence there. Wow. " We're all just folk. " - Mal " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:05 AM
Quote:Doesn't' matter if I tried to claim a link or not...
Quote:Doesn't matter that other cities may be as or more violent, at all. Doesn't change the FACTS.
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Poor, poor boy can't even grasp an analogy, or an example of a parallel point. Pitty the addled fool.
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:56 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:33 AM
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So, just so we're all clear here, Rappy... Are you now CLAIMING that you never intended to link community organizing or President Obama to the violence in Chicago since he left there? Because that is a FACT: all the violent episodes you've cited occurred SINCE OBAMA LEFT CHICAGO AND STOPPED COMMUNITY ORGANIZING THERE. You admit the FACT that there's no causal link between Obama's coming from Chicago and that city's recent violence. Do I have that right? Is that a FACT that you're CLAIMING that? Doesn't' matter if I tried to claim a link or not... the facts are that Obama community organized in a city that's pretty darn violent. Doesn't matter that other cities may be as or more violent, at all. Doesn't change the FACTS. And as the violence spiked after he left, that only goes to show what poor seeds he planted, or that his actions were utterly fruitless. Huh. Sounds like you're saying that if there's any spike in violence now that our troops are out of Iraq, it will prove that the war and occupation were utterly fruitless. Is that the analogy you intended to make? Said nothing what so ever about Iraq. The issue was Chicago and the violence there. Wow.
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Notice that people AREN'T challenging the facts, they're challenging the conclusions you're drawing from those facts - namely that the violence is the fruit of community organising. And the way kiki did that was by posting more FACTS, that gave a fuller, truer picture, and put things in perspective. You, and your claims never recovered.
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by mal4prez: I figure it's his thread he started to attack someone else, so may as well cut loose on him for a bit. :)
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:44 PM
Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:50 AM
Quote:Not attacking anyone, but merely pointing out a FACT, that 1kiki has some serious comprehension issues.
Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Not attacking anyone, but merely pointing out a FACT, that 1kiki has some serious comprehension issues. RAPPY IS AN ASSHOLE! Must be true, because every time his orifice opens, shit comes out. Now, that's not an attack, or even a claim, that's just a fact.
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