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Chronicling Mitt's Mendacity
Tuesday, August 7, 2012 9:33 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Some Republican governors this year asked the Obama administration for some new flexibility on welfare standards -- the governors had some ideas about moving folks from welfare to work and needed the White House to sign off. Obama agreed -- existing work requirements would stay in place, but states, if they want to, can take advantage of new flexibility when it comes to experimenting with existing law. This is the sort of shifting-power-to-the-states policy that Republicans are supposed to love. As of this morning, however, it's the basis for a new Mitt Romney attack ad. It's important to realize this is as dishonest an ad as you'll ever see -- in 2012 or in any other campaign cycle. For those who can't watch clips online, the ad shows President Clinton signing welfare reform into law in 1996, "requiring work for welfare." The spot then argues, however, that President Obama "quietly announced a plan to gut welfare reform by dropping work requirements." The voiceover tells viewers, "Under Obama's plan, you wouldn't have to work and wouldn't have to train for a job. They just send you your welfare check.... and welfare to work goes back to being plain old welfare." We then learn, "Mitt Romney will restore the work requirement because it works." Romney's lying. He's not spinning the truth to his advantage; he's not hiding in a gray area between fact and fiction; he's just lying. The law hasn't been "gutted"; the work requirement hasn't been "dropped." Stations that air this ad are disseminating an obvious, demonstrable lie. All Obama did is agree to Republican governors' request for flexibility. That's it. Indeed, perhaps the most jaw-dropping aspect of this is that Romney himself, during his one gubernatorial term, asked for the same kind of flexibility on welfare law that Obama agreed to last month. Romney, in other words, is attacking the president for doing what Romney asked the executive branch to do in 2005. The entire line of attack is simply insane. How are we to respond to a campaign that deliberately deceives the public without shame? This lie about welfare policy comes on the heels of Romney's lie about voting rights in Ohio:Quote:On Thursday, August 2nd, Breitbart.com published some tripe about President Obama making it harder for Ohio’s military voters to vote. On Friday, in Las Vegas, a report asked Mitt Romney his reaction to the Obama campaign’s “filing suit in Ohio to try to reduce early voting by a few days for military living overseas and some American civilians living overseas.” On Saturday, Mitt Romney posted this on FB… “President Obama’s lawsuit claiming it is unconstitutional for Ohio to allow servicemen and women extended early voting privileges during the state’s early voting period is an outrage. The brave men and women of our military make tremendous sacrifices to protect and defend our freedoms, and we should do everything we can to protect their fundamental right to vote. I stand with the fifteen military groups that are defending the rights of military voters, and if I’m entrusted to be the commander-in-chief, I’ll work to protect the voting rights of our military, not undermine them.” In that statement, Mitt Romney is clearly claiming that the Obama campaign is seeking to restrict military voting in Ohio. Snopes.com rates that claim as FALSE. PolitiFact Ohio rates that claim as FALSE. On Saturday, August 4th Obama for America Veterans and Military Family Vote Director Rob Diamond issued the following statement…Quote:“Mitt Romney and his campaign have completely fabricated a claim that the Obama campaign is trying to restrict military voting in Ohio. In fact, the opposite is true: the Obama campaign filed a lawsuit to make sure every Ohioan, including military members and their families, has early voting rights over the last weekend prior to the election. The case filed with the court could not be clearer on this point. The real story of what is happening in the Buckeye State is that Mitt Romney supports the Republican effort to stop people from voting by restricting their access to the polls. In 2008, more than 93,000 Ohioans utilized early voting in the three days before the election. In complete disregard of the will of Ohio voters expressed last year through the referendum process, the Republican legislature is attempting to remove from the vast majority of voters — including veterans of our armed services — the early voting rights they enjoyed in 2008. This latest Republican attack on rights of voters is shameful — and so is Mitt Romney’s endorsement of it.” Today is the 47th anniversary of the voting rights act. How disgusting that on this day, a man who wants to be President of the United States would support legislation that makes it harder for people, including veterans, to exercise their right to vote? He’s even willing to blatantly lie in order to hide what the GOP in Ohio is trying to do. If you need better background in order understand what’s happening, here are some frequently asked questions… What happened to early voting in Ohio? • In the 2008 presidential election, more than 93,000 Ohioans utilized early voting in the three days before the election. • Earlier this year, Ohio’s GOP-controlled legislature passed an election reform law that cut off early voting three days before the election. • More than 300,000 Ohioans signed a petition to secure a referendum on the November 6th ballot in order to repeal this law. Rather than face the referendum, the legislature, at the urging of Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted, decided to repeal the law. • However, “in an unusual turn of events,” Ohio Republicans managed to keep a technical provision of the bill that shortens the early voting process and eliminates the last three days of early voting for all citizens except military personnel and their families. What does that mean for voters? In addition to reducing Ohioans’ access to the polls, the legislature created inequality between military voters who can cast early ballots in person through the day before the election and all other voters who only have until 6 p.m. on the Friday before the election to vote in-person absentee. Why is there a lawsuit? These restrictions are a violation of the equal protection guarantees in the U.S. Constitution. The lawsuit seeks to make sure that all Ohioans, including military members and their families, can exercise their right to vote early. “This lawsuit seeks to treat all Ohio citizens equally under the law,” said Obama for America attorney Bob Bauer. “We want to restore the right of all to vote before Election Day.” The facts show that Romney’s claim about restricting military voting is a blatant distortion. The purpose of the lawsuit is to ensure that every Ohioan—including military voters—has the right to make their voices heard at the polls. which came on the heels of Romney's lies about the economyQuote:Asked about his lack of specific ideas on the economy, Romney argued, "I don't think I've seen any from the president that -- that show what he's planning on doing." Romney doesn't have to like the American Jobs Act, but he shouldn't get away with brazenly lying about its existence.which came on the heels of Romney's lies about health careQuote:On health care, Romney said, "We also have to make sure that people with pre-existing conditions don't have to be denied care." At a minimum, that's wildly misleading. Under Romney's approach, millions of people with pre-existing conditions would be denied coverage -- and occasionally his campaign even admits it. And what happens to people who enter the insurance market already suffering from a pre-existing condition? [A statement from the Romney campaign] confirms that under a Romney presidency, there would be no federal prohibition barring health insurers from discriminating against pre-existing conditions. Romney's policy "does not immediately address people who have never had private health insurance, or who have had insurance but spent some time without, often because of financial circumstances and unemployment."which came on the heels of Romney's lies about taxes Quote:Complaining about Democrats, Romney said, "[O]ur friends across the aisle and the president, they have a different view. They think, well we should just raise taxes, that's the primary way they think we should cut the deficit." Actually, in 2011, when Democrats offered Republicans a massive debt-reduction deal, the "primary way" they closed the budget gap was through spending cuts. and In an interview with Fox's Sean Hannity, Romney claimed, "That's one of the first principles of my plan, which is, high-income people will continue to pay the same share of taxes they pay today." That's not true. The wealthy would receive a massive, disproportionate tax break under the Romney plan. Where taxes are concerned, there are just too many lies to detail here. The Republican nominee for president is working under the assumption that he can make transparently false claims, in writing and in campaign advertising, with impunity. Romney is convinced that there are no consequences for breathtaking dishonesty. The test, then, comes down to a simple question: is he right? The cynical response is that the lies are routine -- it's just something "everybody" in politics does. That's wrong. An ad this dishonest is a genuine scandal and it's time for political observers treat it as such. Reporters within earshot of the candidate shouldn't ask, "What about the gaffes?" They should ask, "Why are you lying about welfare policy?"
Quote:On Thursday, August 2nd, Breitbart.com published some tripe about President Obama making it harder for Ohio’s military voters to vote. On Friday, in Las Vegas, a report asked Mitt Romney his reaction to the Obama campaign’s “filing suit in Ohio to try to reduce early voting by a few days for military living overseas and some American civilians living overseas.” On Saturday, Mitt Romney posted this on FB… “President Obama’s lawsuit claiming it is unconstitutional for Ohio to allow servicemen and women extended early voting privileges during the state’s early voting period is an outrage. The brave men and women of our military make tremendous sacrifices to protect and defend our freedoms, and we should do everything we can to protect their fundamental right to vote. I stand with the fifteen military groups that are defending the rights of military voters, and if I’m entrusted to be the commander-in-chief, I’ll work to protect the voting rights of our military, not undermine them.” In that statement, Mitt Romney is clearly claiming that the Obama campaign is seeking to restrict military voting in Ohio. Snopes.com rates that claim as FALSE. PolitiFact Ohio rates that claim as FALSE. On Saturday, August 4th Obama for America Veterans and Military Family Vote Director Rob Diamond issued the following statement…Quote:“Mitt Romney and his campaign have completely fabricated a claim that the Obama campaign is trying to restrict military voting in Ohio. In fact, the opposite is true: the Obama campaign filed a lawsuit to make sure every Ohioan, including military members and their families, has early voting rights over the last weekend prior to the election. The case filed with the court could not be clearer on this point. The real story of what is happening in the Buckeye State is that Mitt Romney supports the Republican effort to stop people from voting by restricting their access to the polls. In 2008, more than 93,000 Ohioans utilized early voting in the three days before the election. In complete disregard of the will of Ohio voters expressed last year through the referendum process, the Republican legislature is attempting to remove from the vast majority of voters — including veterans of our armed services — the early voting rights they enjoyed in 2008. This latest Republican attack on rights of voters is shameful — and so is Mitt Romney’s endorsement of it.” Today is the 47th anniversary of the voting rights act. How disgusting that on this day, a man who wants to be President of the United States would support legislation that makes it harder for people, including veterans, to exercise their right to vote? He’s even willing to blatantly lie in order to hide what the GOP in Ohio is trying to do. If you need better background in order understand what’s happening, here are some frequently asked questions… What happened to early voting in Ohio? • In the 2008 presidential election, more than 93,000 Ohioans utilized early voting in the three days before the election. • Earlier this year, Ohio’s GOP-controlled legislature passed an election reform law that cut off early voting three days before the election. • More than 300,000 Ohioans signed a petition to secure a referendum on the November 6th ballot in order to repeal this law. Rather than face the referendum, the legislature, at the urging of Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted, decided to repeal the law. • However, “in an unusual turn of events,” Ohio Republicans managed to keep a technical provision of the bill that shortens the early voting process and eliminates the last three days of early voting for all citizens except military personnel and their families. What does that mean for voters? In addition to reducing Ohioans’ access to the polls, the legislature created inequality between military voters who can cast early ballots in person through the day before the election and all other voters who only have until 6 p.m. on the Friday before the election to vote in-person absentee. Why is there a lawsuit? These restrictions are a violation of the equal protection guarantees in the U.S. Constitution. The lawsuit seeks to make sure that all Ohioans, including military members and their families, can exercise their right to vote early. “This lawsuit seeks to treat all Ohio citizens equally under the law,” said Obama for America attorney Bob Bauer. “We want to restore the right of all to vote before Election Day.” The facts show that Romney’s claim about restricting military voting is a blatant distortion. The purpose of the lawsuit is to ensure that every Ohioan—including military voters—has the right to make their voices heard at the polls.
Quote:“Mitt Romney and his campaign have completely fabricated a claim that the Obama campaign is trying to restrict military voting in Ohio. In fact, the opposite is true: the Obama campaign filed a lawsuit to make sure every Ohioan, including military members and their families, has early voting rights over the last weekend prior to the election. The case filed with the court could not be clearer on this point. The real story of what is happening in the Buckeye State is that Mitt Romney supports the Republican effort to stop people from voting by restricting their access to the polls. In 2008, more than 93,000 Ohioans utilized early voting in the three days before the election. In complete disregard of the will of Ohio voters expressed last year through the referendum process, the Republican legislature is attempting to remove from the vast majority of voters — including veterans of our armed services — the early voting rights they enjoyed in 2008. This latest Republican attack on rights of voters is shameful — and so is Mitt Romney’s endorsement of it.”
Quote:Asked about his lack of specific ideas on the economy, Romney argued, "I don't think I've seen any from the president that -- that show what he's planning on doing." Romney doesn't have to like the American Jobs Act, but he shouldn't get away with brazenly lying about its existence.
Quote:On health care, Romney said, "We also have to make sure that people with pre-existing conditions don't have to be denied care." At a minimum, that's wildly misleading. Under Romney's approach, millions of people with pre-existing conditions would be denied coverage -- and occasionally his campaign even admits it. And what happens to people who enter the insurance market already suffering from a pre-existing condition? [A statement from the Romney campaign] confirms that under a Romney presidency, there would be no federal prohibition barring health insurers from discriminating against pre-existing conditions. Romney's policy "does not immediately address people who have never had private health insurance, or who have had insurance but spent some time without, often because of financial circumstances and unemployment."
Quote:Complaining about Democrats, Romney said, "[O]ur friends across the aisle and the president, they have a different view. They think, well we should just raise taxes, that's the primary way they think we should cut the deficit." Actually, in 2011, when Democrats offered Republicans a massive debt-reduction deal, the "primary way" they closed the budget gap was through spending cuts. and In an interview with Fox's Sean Hannity, Romney claimed, "That's one of the first principles of my plan, which is, high-income people will continue to pay the same share of taxes they pay today." That's not true. The wealthy would receive a massive, disproportionate tax break under the Romney plan. Where taxes are concerned, there are just too many lies to detail here.
Tuesday, August 7, 2012 2:27 PM
GEEZER
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Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: How are we to respond to a campaign that deliberately deceives the public without shame?
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