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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:11 AM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Quote: CNN reports: "Two people were removed from the Republican National Convention Tuesday after they threw nuts at an African-American CNN camera operator and said, 'This is how we feed animals.' "Multiple witnesses observed the exchange and RNC security and police immediately removed the two people from the Tampa Bay Times Forum."
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:27 AM
CHRISISALL
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:15 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:21 AM
HKCAVALIER
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 7:56 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: I'm sure they really meant "foreigners" and not "animals", right?
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:15 AM
STORYMARK
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:21 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: That sums it up well.
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:25 AM
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:35 AM
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:42 AM
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: Yo, Rap, why don'cha go start yer own thread, 'stead of changin' the subject and 'jackin' this one? We're having a good time bashing the Repubs here. and I'm not surprised that you're denying the whole thing, or claiming, without ANY evidence, that it was Occupy people. Go away!
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:38 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: sounds like another one of those little slips that reveal how the Republicans REALLY feel. from Slate.com:
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I get that. I really do.
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:24 AM
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:38 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:25 PM
WHOZIT
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: Boo for Yahoo - insulting or not, he was telling the fucking truth, inconvenient and unpleasant that it is. And David is a wimp for apologising, especially since at that point he'd ALREADY been fired and had no cause to back down. People need to stop giving these bozos a free pass, stop trying to negotiate, and start drawing lines. No apologies, and no fucking mercy either. They'll have none for anyone else, they get their way, so why hand them gimmes ? -F
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:56 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: a bunch of race baiting phoney scumbags
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by whozit: a bunch of race baiting phoney scumbags Bagel guy applies his schmear as smoothly as Steve and Edie scatting Bei Mir Bis Du Schein. Hmmm, better than Reuben's. ..One more. Ben! ..My last one. Okay.
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:08 PM
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Close enough ? " I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:13 PM
Quote:Yo, Rap, why don'cha go start yer own thread, 'stead of changin' the subject and 'jackin' this one? We're having a good time bashing the Repubs here. and I'm not surprised that you're denying the whole thing, or claiming, without ANY evidence, that it was Occupy people. Go away!
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:50 PM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Quote:Anyone surprised?
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: It's there; Raptor et al can deny it until the cows come home, but it's there; anyone with half a brain can translate the dog whistles when they hear them. When I heard someone at the convention saying something along the lines of "we won't tolerate that sort of language", my mind just automatically filled in "...in public". Not even a batshit crazy conspiracy theory, actually, Mark, just whatever Raptor cn grab out of thin air to fire back with. Doesn't matter if it's valid, pertinent or even real, just SOMETHING to excuse whatever the right did wrong and/or point out something bad about the left. I feel so sorry for him...imagine how different life would be if he ever dared open his eyes...much less his mind! ETA: Good one, Chris, lovely to se the Old Chris back in form!
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:55 PM
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: You are really, REALLY trying to change the subject aren't you?
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:06 PM
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Just saw his last post...made me smile. He's trying SO hard to find some way to wiggle out of it. Hope it doesn't give him a heart attack, twisting around so energetically! Makes sense, tho'; bet he never heard about it from his sources, so maybe it didn't happen, maybe it was just a librul conspiracy (made up by CNN no doubt just so's we could call them racists).
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: And you're trying so very hard to deny reality.
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:51 PM
Quote:MSNBC intentionally cuts Minority Speaker from the Coverage There are some troubling allegations surfacing surrounding MSNBC’s Republican National Convention coverage on Tuesday night. Numerous conservative outlets are reporting that the network either cut away from or simply axed out speeches and addresses by many of the minority speakers and politicians in attendance (earlier this week, TheBlaze also reported extensively about race and the RNC). As a result, some journalists and commentators are wondering if the race-based coverage was intentional. Last night, Red Alert Politics’ Francesca Chambers first reported about the wide array of minority voices who were purportedly axed from the left-leaning network’s coverage. According to Chambers, when Tea Party candidate Ted Cruz, a Hispanic Republican, began his speech, MSNBC cut away from it. Also, when Vela Fortuno, wife of Puerto Rican Gov. Luis Fortuno spoke, Chambers claims that Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews simply spoke over and ignored her address. As for former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis, an Alabama politician who served from 2003 to 2011, he, too, allegedly wasn’t covered by the network. Davis has gained press in recent days over his shocking switch to the Republican Party. MSNBC was said to be on a commercial break during the African American’s speech. Others who were missing from the media outlet’s coverage, critics claim, were Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval, who is Mexican, and Mia Love, a black Republican from Utah who is running for Congress. Chambers gave MSNBC some credit for including South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, an Indian American, but she wrote that the politician “is not conventionally considered a minority.” http://www.theblaze.com/stories/did-msnbc-intentionally-cut-out-minority-speakers-from-its-rnc-coverage-to-make-republicans-look-racist/
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:14 PM
Quote:Multiple witnesses observed the exchange and RNC security and police immediately removed the two people from the Tampa Bay Times Forum. The convention released a statement saying, “Two attendees tonight exhibited deplorable behavior. Their conduct was inexcusable and unacceptable. This kind of behavior will not be tolerated." {"in public"} CNN also acknowledged the incident, saying, "CNN can confirm there was an incident directed at an employee inside the Tampa Bay Times Forum earlier this afternoon. CNN worked with convention officials to address this matter and will have no further comment.”
Quote:While some have called it an obvious racial issue, others have suggested that it is a "left wing set-up." "The dems went too far on this one. A woman I can understand. that would fly. A Black person I could understand. thay would fly. but a Black Woman! You just blew your cover. I'm ashamed of you. Wheres your head? Who's gonna buy that?" suggested a user named "mikehuntsman."
Quote:You may have noticed that one of the biggest news organizations in the world — CNN — has been remarkably tight-lipped about this.” Finally both CNN and the Republican Party confirmed the assault through a statement, titled “RNCC Calls Incident Against Black CNN Camerawoman ‘Inexcusable And Unacceptable’, while the CNN statement read, “Two people removed from RNC after taunting black camera operator.” Marshall theorizes that the reason for CNN inaction is because it doesn’t want to draw attention to itself as the story, especially since it is trying to tout itself as the fairest of all the cable networks. “So it’s worth noting why that probably is. There’s a normal and correct tendency for a news outfit not to want to make itself into the story. But this goes way beyond that and puts CNN in an exquisitely awkward position. CNN has been bending over backwards of late trying to position itself as the last holy beacon of objectivity and fairness in cable news, as Fox and MSNBC play to more clearly partisan audiences. Yet they’re under almost constant assault from conservatives for alleged (and basically mythical) liberal bias”.
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:15 PM
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Remember back a while when I said in another thread, that " perception is reality " ? This is exactly what I meant. You morons on the Left, so hell bent in pumping out the race baiting vitriol that you love spewing, you actually BELIEVE the crap about Republicans dancing and partying away, giddy that black folks are drowning some where.
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:27 PM
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:46 PM
Quote:FauxNews actively CREATES its alternate universe by omitting, in Orwellian fashion, information which does not meet their agenda.
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:53 PM
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: OR! If it's OK for you libs to call me and my kind rasict, can I call your kind a bunch of race baiting phoney scumbags? Just asking, let me know how you want to handle this....dickhead
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Chris.. That was illogically funny. Sorta. However, THIS is reality... Quote:MSNBC intentionally cuts Minority Speaker from the Coverage There are some troubling allegations surfacing surrounding MSNBC’s Republican National Convention coverage on Tuesday night. Numerous conservative outlets are reporting that the network either cut away from or simply axed out speeches and addresses by many of the minority speakers and politicians in attendance (earlier this week, TheBlaze also reported extensively about race and the RNC). As a result, some journalists and commentators are wondering if the race-based coverage was intentional. Last night, Red Alert Politics’ Francesca Chambers first reported about the wide array of minority voices who were purportedly axed from the left-leaning network’s coverage. According to Chambers, when Tea Party candidate Ted Cruz, a Hispanic Republican, began his speech, MSNBC cut away from it. Also, when Vela Fortuno, wife of Puerto Rican Gov. Luis Fortuno spoke, Chambers claims that Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews simply spoke over and ignored her address. As for former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis, an Alabama politician who served from 2003 to 2011, he, too, allegedly wasn’t covered by the network. Davis has gained press in recent days over his shocking switch to the Republican Party. MSNBC was said to be on a commercial break during the African American’s speech. Others who were missing from the media outlet’s coverage, critics claim, were Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval, who is Mexican, and Mia Love, a black Republican from Utah who is running for Congress. Chambers gave MSNBC some credit for including South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, an Indian American, but she wrote that the politician “is not conventionally considered a minority.” The Left is actively trying to create its alternate universe by omitting, in Orwellian fashion, information which does not meet their agenda.
Quote:MSNBC intentionally cuts Minority Speaker from the Coverage There are some troubling allegations surfacing surrounding MSNBC’s Republican National Convention coverage on Tuesday night. Numerous conservative outlets are reporting that the network either cut away from or simply axed out speeches and addresses by many of the minority speakers and politicians in attendance (earlier this week, TheBlaze also reported extensively about race and the RNC). As a result, some journalists and commentators are wondering if the race-based coverage was intentional. Last night, Red Alert Politics’ Francesca Chambers first reported about the wide array of minority voices who were purportedly axed from the left-leaning network’s coverage. According to Chambers, when Tea Party candidate Ted Cruz, a Hispanic Republican, began his speech, MSNBC cut away from it. Also, when Vela Fortuno, wife of Puerto Rican Gov. Luis Fortuno spoke, Chambers claims that Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews simply spoke over and ignored her address. As for former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis, an Alabama politician who served from 2003 to 2011, he, too, allegedly wasn’t covered by the network. Davis has gained press in recent days over his shocking switch to the Republican Party. MSNBC was said to be on a commercial break during the African American’s speech. Others who were missing from the media outlet’s coverage, critics claim, were Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval, who is Mexican, and Mia Love, a black Republican from Utah who is running for Congress. Chambers gave MSNBC some credit for including South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, an Indian American, but she wrote that the politician “is not conventionally considered a minority.”
Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:53 AM
Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:53 AM
Quote: Depending on what websites you read last night, you might think MSNBC purposely avoided airing the speeches of several ethnic minority Republicans to further their progressive personalities’ narrative of the GOP being “racist”. RedAlert, Hot Air, The Daily Caller, and Town Hall were among the right-leaning websites who ran with the story that MSNBC had purposely neglected to cover the minority speeches. To fuel their false ‘GOP is racist’ argument, MSNBC conveniently cut every speech given by a minority,” wrote Town Hall editor Katie Pavlich in a reaction article titled “Pathetic”. Indeed, a purposeful omission of the minority speakers would be “pathetic,” except for one glaring detail that all of these publications themselves omitted: With the exception of black former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis, MSNBC and Fox News covered and omitted the same exact speeches. Both networks aired the speeches by NH Senator Kelly Ayotte, Ohio Governor John Kasich, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, Ann Romney, and NJ Gov. Chris Christie. But for minority speakers, here’s a handy guide to how the rival networks broke down coverage: • Mia Love: MNSBC was in commercial; Fox aired Shepard Smith‘s coverage of Hurricane Isaac from New Orleans. • Brian Sandoval: MSNBC aired hurricane coverage; Fox’s Sean Hannity interviewed Rep. Eric Cantor. • Ted Cruz: MSNBC cut to panel analysis of the convention; Fox went to commercial and returned with a Scott Walker interview. • Artur Davis: MSNBC aired panel discussion, mentioned his speech 5 minutes in, but didn’t air it; Fox aired the entirety of the speech. • Nikki Haley: both MSNBC and Fox News aired the speech. • Lucé Vela Fortuño: MSNBC aired more roundtable discussion; Fox News cut away to discussion by Bret Baier and Megyn Kelly. So with the exception of former Rep. Davis, MSNBC did not omit any speeches that Fox News did not also omit. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-falsely-accused-of-purposely-omitting-minority-republican-speeches/
Quote: CNN had the most even split between coverage of the convention and coverage of the hurricane. CNN's chyrons told the story as well as anything: facts about Mitt Romney took up one half of the screen, while a storm tracking graphic took up the other. At 7 PM, CNN featured a literal split screen, with Cooper on hurricane watch and Wolf Blitzer in Tampa. Fox News also spent most of its hour with hurricane updates. MSNBC, which puts more of an emphasis on politics than the other two networks, stuck with the RNC. When Isaac made landfall, though, Maddow shifted focus. "We're responsible for covering that because it's as big a story, frankly," she said as she cut off politics talk to get a brief update on the hurricane. "This is a big, big deal." Over the next hour, CNN spent the most time on Isaac, regularly breaking away for extended reporting from Cooper and his team. Fox News and MSNBC devoted much more time to convention speeches and punditry. When the most high-profile speeches such as Rick Santorum's began, however, all three networks stayed firmly in Tampa. The main broadcast networks, NBC, CBS and ABC, began their coverage at 10 PM. All three led their coverage with updates from Isaac.
Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:58 AM
Quote:A shouting match erupted on the floor of the Republican National Convention on Tuesday afternoon as Chairman Reince Priebus called for a vote to unseat several Ron Paul delegates. Loud cries of “Boo” and” Seat them now” filled the convention floor as repeated calls to contest a credentials committee report fell on deaf ears after it passed by a voice vote. A majority of the delegates from six states were required to call for a roll call vote on the credentials report, submitting their intent to do so in writing in advance. Despite Maine the delegates’ claims, no such support came from their colleagues from other states. The boos disrupted the speech of Puerto Rico National Committeewoman Zori Fonalledas, who was set to announce the nomination of Speaker of the House John Boehner as permanent convention chairman. They did not boo Puerto Rico. Their chant of "Kick them out" was not referring to Puerto Ricans (and that's what was being shouted by some which I couldn't make out, it's obvious now). It's a shame that the story of the undemocratic process the Republicans used to squash dissent has been overshadowed by the claim that the RNC delegates booed Puerto Rico. The fracas had nothing to do with Puerto Rico. The next speaker would have been disrupted and delayed no matter who she was. She just happened to be from Puerto Rico.
Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:39 AM
Friday, August 31, 2012 7:32 AM
Friday, August 31, 2012 8:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Pretty sneaky, Mike. Saying "the crowd booing the delegate from Puerto Rico" is pretty clear...they didn't boo her. You said they did. If you didn't believe it, then you were being deliberately devious by saying they were. But I do love that last one.
Friday, August 31, 2012 8:42 AM
Friday, August 31, 2012 9:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Anyone think Raptor will apologize for claiming The Blaze's story shows "The Left is actively trying to create its alternate universe by omitting, in Orwellian fashion, information which does not meet their agenda"? If he's right, then obviously the Right is actively trying to create its alternate universe by omitting, in Orwellian fashion, information which does not meet their agenda. Right?
Friday, August 31, 2012 11:33 AM
Quote:Anyone think Raptor will apologize...
Saturday, September 1, 2012 5:36 AM
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 5:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Anyone think Raptor will apologize for claiming The Blaze's story shows "The Left is actively trying to create its alternate universe by omitting, in Orwellian fashion, information which does not meet their agenda"? If he's right, then obviously the Right is actively trying to create its alternate universe by omitting, in Orwellian fashion, information which does not meet their agenda. Right? Id say it's far more likely that the chump will do his usual coward thing - and never show his face in this thread again. "Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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