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Sarah Palin was completely right, after all.
Friday, September 28, 2012 12:58 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR Beyond Obamacare By STEVEN RATTNER Published: September 16, 2012 WE NEED DEATH PANELS Well, maybe not death panels, exactly, but unless we start allocating health care resources more prudently — rationing, by its proper name — the exploding cost of Medicare will swamp the federal budget. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/17/opinion/health-care-reform-beyond-obamacare.html?_r=1&
Friday, September 28, 2012 1:02 PM
CHRISISALL
Friday, September 28, 2012 1:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Reading comprehension, AU. Work on it.
Friday, September 28, 2012 1:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Entitlements are an anvil to this country's economy. All O-Care has done is add more weight to our ankles, and hope we become better swimmers.
Friday, September 28, 2012 3:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Entitlements are an anvil to this country's economy. All O-Care has done is add more weight to our ankles, and hope we become better swimmers. You misstate the big picture so eloquently. It's a skill.
Friday, September 28, 2012 4:15 PM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Friday, September 28, 2012 4:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Interesting article. Shame you didn't read it Auraptor. How is what Palin said any more correct now than it was then? http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/palin-vs-obama-death-panels/ It's not personal. It's just war.
Friday, September 28, 2012 4:56 PM
Quote:The title says it all... WE NEED DEATH PANELS
Friday, September 28, 2012 5:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Also, do you think Obama appointed him as 'Car Czar' to help author Obamacare? It's not personal. It's just war.
Saturday, September 29, 2012 3:05 AM
Saturday, September 29, 2012 3:48 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Saturday, September 29, 2012 3:54 AM
PENGUIN
Saturday, September 29, 2012 5:09 AM
Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:06 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Saturday, September 29, 2012 8:30 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:The Republican vice-presidential nominee, Paul D. Ryan, has offered his latest ambitious plan for addressing the Medicare problem. But like Mr. Obama’s, it holds limited promise for containing the program’s escalating costs within sensible boundaries. The Obama and Ryan plans are not without common ground; both propose an identical formula for capping the growth in Medicare spending per beneficiary. And both dip into the same toolbox (particularly lower payments to providers) to achieve a reduction of nearly $1 trillion in Medicare expenditures over the next decade from projected levels. That’s where the agreement ends. Mr. Ryan believes that meeting the goal over the long term requires introducing more competition into Medicare through vouchers to purchase private insurance. Under his revised plan, private insurers would be required to offer the same level of benefits as traditional Medicare, meaning that any savings would have to come from unidentified efficiencies (the ever-popular “waste, fraud and abuse”). If the cap was breached — as it almost certainly would eventually be — Mr. Ryan blithely says, “Congress would be required to intervene.” Fat chance; Congress regularly does the opposite when it rolls back caps on payments to doctors and hospitals. No one wants to lose an aging parent. And with price out of the equation, it’s natural for patients and their families to try every treatment, regardless of expense or efficacy. But that imposes an enormous societal cost that few other nations have been willing to bear. Many countries whose health care systems are regularly extolled — including Canada, Australia and New Zealand — have systems for rationing care. Take Britain, which provides universal coverage with spending at proportionately almost half of American levels. Its National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence uses a complex quality-adjusted life year system to put an explicit value (up to about $48,000 per year) on a treatment’s ability to extend life. At the least, the Independent Payment Advisory Board should be allowed to offer changes in services and costs. We may shrink from such stomach-wrenching choices, but they are inescapable.
Saturday, September 29, 2012 9:50 AM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
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