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What is Obama's nd term agenda?

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Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:57 AM

HERO


We've heard all about Romney' s plans on the economy, energy, and foreign policy. To be fair can some of you leftist types tell us his 2nd term plans. All I've heard from the media and Obama is about Romney's plans and how tough Obama had it when he got in so we need to excuse the failure of his policies to this point.

So besides 100,000 teachers, which he promised in 2008, more infrastructure, which he spent $700 billion fixing in 2009, fleeing Afghanistan no matter what in 2014, and putting more solar companies and windmill makers in bankruptcy...what's the big plan for Obama part 2?

H

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Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:56 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


I posted a thread asking this same question earlier. From the article:

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Dig a little and it is possible to unearth some proposals - although not much detail.

Mr Obama has said he would create a million new manufacturing jobs by 2016 by encouraging trade deals, and create 100,000 new teaching jobs. He'd help students pay for college.

He wants extensive reform of America's over-complex and confusing tax system. In part, he would do this to cut America's debt - letting tax breaks for the well-off expire and making sure no-one earning a million dollars is on a lower rate than the average. He would get rid of what he says are tax breaks for companies moving jobs and profits out of America.

He'd make a new effort to get Congress to pass his American Jobs Act - cutting the equivalent of national insurance, giving tax breaks to companies hiring new workers, investing in new school buildings and a $50bn (£31bn) investment in infrastructure.

He says he has a "deep commitment " to reforming America's broken immigration system - but it's not clear how tough, or tender, he would be towards the millions of illegal immigrants already in the USA.


Also not repealing Obamacare - that's a big one.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:56 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:43 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Posted by "Hero":

We've heard all about Romney' s plans on the economy, energy, and foreign policy.




We have?


I've yet to hear any solid plans for any of those. Romney's basic plan seems to amount to having all of us eat gold dust and fart rainbows while we ride magical unicorns to all the eleventy billion new jobs he creates.


Only thing is, he can't offer a single specific on how he'd do any of it.



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"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

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Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:48 AM

AURAPTOR

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What is it with Democrats, who love trotting out the figure of " 100,000 " , as if it's some sort of magic # or something.

100,000 new teachers.

100,000 new cops.

Their empty rhetoric never does cease to amaze.

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Mr Obama has said he would create a million new manufacturing jobs by 2016 by encouraging trade deals, and create 100,000 new teaching jobs. He'd help students pay for college.


Encouraging trade deals ? Is he frelling SERIOUS ? Or has everyone suddenly forgotten that Obama had 2 years of controlling the House and Senate, and he got next to NOTHING done ? He COULD have opted to created these jobs, first and foremost, but instead, chose to shove his Left wing agenda down our throats, namely with O-Care.

HE'LL help students pay for college ? Really? With what... his Obama stash ??? Will we be able to call and thank him with our ObamaPhones ? Where is it written in the Constitution that the PRESIDENT is , in any way, suppose to help students pay for college ?

Seriously, this Julia crap, this 'womb to tomb ' control that govt is going to PROVIDE for us all, is really Orwellian as hell.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:05 PM

1KIKI

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"We've heard all about Romney' s plans on the economy, energy, and foreign policy."

cites?

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Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:21 PM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Encouraging trade deals ? Is he frelling SERIOUS ? Or has everyone suddenly forgotten that Obama had 2 years of controlling the House and Senate, and he got next to NOTHING done ? He COULD have opted to created these jobs, first and foremost, but instead, chose to shove his Left wing agenda down our throats, namely with O-Care.



Yes the left wing Obamacare which is just like Romneycare and was created by the Heritage Foundation.

Wait, I though government does not create jobs?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:HE'LL help students pay for college ? Really? With what... his Obama stash ??? Will we be able to call and thank him with our ObamaPhones ? Where is it written in the Constitution that the PRESIDENT is , in any way, suppose to help students pay for college ?


By cutting out the middle men, the banks, and saving money. Oh and the Constitution says...We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Helpping people get and education is a major part of securing the Blessings of Liberty to people and their descendents.

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Sunday, October 21, 2012 3:20 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
What is it with Democrats, who love trotting out the figure of " 100,000 " , as if it's some sort of magic # or something.

100,000 new teachers.

100,000 new cops.




You should ask the same thing of Romneys' fabled "12,000,000 jobs" he says he'll create, even though he insists government don't create jobs.

Didn't he claim to have "created" a hundred thousand jobs when he was at Bain? Or is that another of those things he never did while he wasn't there?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, October 22, 2012 5:43 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"We've heard all about Romney' s plans on the economy, energy, and foreign policy."

cites?


Go back and watch the first debate or a Youtube of a Romney stump speech. They spent 90% of Debate 1 talking about the President's failed record and Romney's plans.

I know you guys want more specifics but that issue has been done to death. What I'm asking is what is the President's agenda for the 2nd term? If he has one does it include anything more specific then Romney's? If not, why aren't you leftists more upset?

For example. 100,000 teachers, raising taxes, and deficit reduction are the ONLY things he's promised so far in detail (if you don't count all of his failed promises in 2008). How is that going to be paid for? Where will those teachers work? For taxes, how what is a fair share? What about the tax increases on 161 million workers starting January 1st? How much revenue does he expect to get from the rich? Is that really worth the impact on the economy? Why did he say about a year or so back that raising taxes on the rich was the wrong thing to do? What specific spending cuts does he propose? Or does he plan to continue trillion dollar deficits through the next four year? If so...how much debt...exactly...is too much debt?

What is his plan if ObamaCare fails to control the price of medical care? What is his plan for all the Doctors who plan to stop or reduce their practice because of ObamaCare?

What is his plan to stop illegal immigration? Does he plan to offer amnesty?

How will the President work to restore America's leadership in the world?

What is the President's plan to deal with Al Queda? Does he plan to pretend they have been defeated or does he have a comprehensive strategy for combating the tide of Islamic radicalism sweeping the Islamic World?

What is the President's plan to deal with China? Russia? Iran? Venezuela? Canada (that's right...you Canadians want a war, WE'LL GIVE YOU A WAR...over fishing rights and syrup...BUT BE PREPARED FOR HELL...or a strongly worded protest)?

What are his plans to prevent a repeat of Bengazi and to deal with the failure of policy that allowed it to happen? Same questions only...Fast and Furious?

I ask these questions because the President should be running at least as much on what his plans are then simply opposing Romney's plans.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Monday, October 22, 2012 5:48 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Helpping people get and education is a major part of securing the Blessings of Liberty to people and their descendents.


True...but the Constitution does not provide that power to the Federal Govt, its traditionally been reserved to the States. That's why Federal Education policy is so broad (this block of money, that block of money, and eat your veggies)and State policy is so specific (this school, this bus, this book, this menu item, this much time, etc.).

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Monday, October 22, 2012 5:51 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Where is it written in the Constitution that the PRESIDENT is , in any way, suppose to help students pay for college ?





Where is it written in the Constitution that the federal government is, in any way, supposed to help veterans pay for college?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, October 22, 2012 5:54 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Helpping people get and education is a major part of securing the Blessings of Liberty to people and their descendents.


True...but the Constitution does not provide that power to the Federal Govt, its traditionally been reserved to the States. That's why Federal Education policy is so broad (this block of money, that block of money, and eat your veggies)and State policy is so specific (this school, this bus, this book, this menu item, this much time, etc.).



Well as far as college loans and grants I believe they would fall under the commerce clause or the general welfare clause.

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Monday, October 22, 2012 5:55 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:


I know you guys want more specifics but that issue has been done to death. What I'm asking is what is the President's agenda for the 2nd term?



Cut the deficit, close loopholes in the tax code, keep Social Security and Medicare solvent, wind down our mideast adventures, expand education opportunities, create jobs, lower unemployment.

Quote:

If he has one does it include anything more specific then Romney's? If not, why aren't you leftists more upset?



And if you don't like how nonspecific I've been, why aren't you fascists more upset with Romney?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, October 22, 2012 6:23 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"We've heard all about Romney' s plans on the economy, energy, and foreign policy."

cites?


Go back and watch the first debate or a Youtube of a Romney stump speech. They spent 90% of Debate 1 talking about the President's failed record and Romney's plans.

I know you guys want more specifics but that issue has been done to death. What I'm asking is what is the President's agenda for the 2nd term? If he has one does it include anything more specific then Romney's? If not, why aren't you leftists more upset?

For example. 100,000 teachers, raising taxes, and deficit reduction are the ONLY things he's promised so far in detail (if you don't count all of his failed promises in 2008). How is that going to be paid for? Where will those teachers work? For taxes, how what is a fair share? What about the tax increases on 161 million workers starting January 1st? How much revenue does he expect to get from the rich? Is that really worth the impact on the economy? Why did he say about a year or so back that raising taxes on the rich was the wrong thing to do? What specific spending cuts does he propose? Or does he plan to continue trillion dollar deficits through the next four year? If so...how much debt...exactly...is too much debt?

What is his plan if ObamaCare fails to control the price of medical care? What is his plan for all the Doctors who plan to stop or reduce their practice because of ObamaCare?

What is his plan to stop illegal immigration? Does he plan to offer amnesty?

How will the President work to restore America's leadership in the world?

What is the President's plan to deal with Al Queda? Does he plan to pretend they have been defeated or does he have a comprehensive strategy for combating the tide of Islamic radicalism sweeping the Islamic World?

What is the President's plan to deal with China? Russia? Iran? Venezuela? Canada (that's right...you Canadians want a war, WE'LL GIVE YOU A WAR...over fishing rights and syrup...BUT BE PREPARED FOR HELL...or a strongly worded protest)?

What are his plans to prevent a repeat of Bengazi and to deal with the failure of policy that allowed it to happen? Same questions only...Fast and Furious?

I ask these questions because the President should be running at least as much on what his plans are then simply opposing Romney's plans.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012



Try http://www.whitehouse.gov/ for more specifics.

Like the full National Defense Strategy

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/national_secu
rity_strategy.pdf


There is a lot of information and details here.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.

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Monday, October 22, 2012 11:27 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

What is his plan for all the Doctors who plan to stop or reduce their practice because of ObamaCare?


Cites? Do you have any data that shows that there are an inordinate number of doctors planning to abandon their practices because of ObamaCare?

Any ideas what their plans are? Will they go back to ditch-digging, for instance?

And if there's a gap created in the market, won't the magical invisible hand of the free market reach around and fill that gap? If the invisible hand can't even give you a reacharound while you're getting boned in the ass by the free market, then what's it good for?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, October 22, 2012 12:10 PM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Where is it written in the Constitution that the federal government is, in any way, supposed to help veterans pay for college?


Article 1, section 8.

The power to compensate the military, which is what we're talking about is a part of the power to raise and support armies (and the necessary and proper clause at the end of that section".

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Monday, October 22, 2012 2:29 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"I know you guys want more specifics but that issue has been done to death."

But without the specifics. Specifics would be helpful.

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