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Predictions for tonight's debate?

I predict no clear winner in this one.

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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
1. There won't be any sound bite as good as "binders full of women". It's just not possible to top that. Prove me wrong, Mitt. I dare you.

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4. Obama will do a lot of braying about his foreign policy successes, but sadly won't do enough calling out of Mitt's failures.

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Originally posted by peacekeeper:
Who is the chairman in this debate, and what is his background?

With the grace of age, commander, we learn to accept.

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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
1. There won't be any sound bite as good as "binders full of women". It's just not possible to top that. Prove me wrong, Mitt. I dare you.

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"Horses and bayonets" - http://www.facebook.com/HorsesandBayonetsForAll?ref=stream

2000 likes in the last 20 minutes.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:


I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.

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Originally posted by Hero:
Romney's line 'attacking me is not an agenda' was a great line perfectly delivered early enough to make an impression before people tuned out. It has the added benefit of putting a resounding final spin on all four debates.

In a debate like this Romney has to show a general grasp of the issues and avoid obvious mistakes on world conditions. He did that.

Obama was left defending failed policies. The line 'there is nowhere in the world that American influence hasn't declined in the last four years' left Obama reeling. He has one success. One. The United States has been pushed back on every front and his agenda is more retreat. Time to nation build at home he said. It's a great line but against the tide of world events it symbolizes four years of failure and the looming end of America as a superpower.

Obama also made two mistakes. One was the accidental misstatement of his own failed policy in Iraq. Again, early enough to make an impression. Two, his constant resorting to petty small attacks and disrespect. Lecturing Romney on the modern Navy. Huge error.

I note for the record that Marines and the Army still use bayonets.

In short Romney did not lose, nor did he win...Obama however lost big...and what was the desperate look all about? Horrible on the split screen.

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Originally posted by peacekeeper:
America's decline as a superpower is inevitable, and has nothing to do with Obama.Just as The Roman and British empires fell to emerging nations, so will the American influence.The Chinese are just waiting to be handed the baton. it sucks, I know, but get used to it. There ain't a bloody thing you can do about it. Welcome to being shat on by someone with a bigger gun than you. It's how Britain has felt for a hundred years or more.

With the grace of age, commander, we learn to accept.

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Originally posted by Hero:
Romney's line 'attacking me is not an agenda' was a great line perfectly delivered early enough to make an impression before people tuned out. It has the added benefit of putting a resounding final spin on all four debates.

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In a debate like this Romney has to show a general grasp of the issues and avoid obvious mistakes on world conditions. He did that.

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Obama was left defending failed policies. The line 'there is nowhere in the world that American influence hasn't declined in the last four years' left Obama reeling. He has one success. One. The United States has been pushed back on every front and his agenda is more retreat. Time to nation build at home he said. It's a great line but against the tide of world events it symbolizes four years of failure and the looming end of America as a superpower.

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Obama also made two mistakes. One was the accidental misstatement of his own failed policy in Iraq. Again, early enough to make an impression. Two, his constant resorting to petty small attacks and disrespect. Lecturing Romney on the modern Navy. Huge error.

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I note for the record that Marines and the Army still use bayonets.

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In short Romney did not lose, nor did he win...Obama however lost big...and what was the desperate look all about? Horrible on the split screen.

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I note for the record that Marines and the Army still use bayonets.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
I was listening to some local coverage of the election which puts Romney ahead by 1% in the polls after the debate. Is that accurate?

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
There's some speculation that Romney could win the popular vote and lose

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Originally posted by peacekeeper:
America's decline as a superpower is inevitable, and has nothing to do with Obama.Just as The Roman and British empires fell to emerging nations, so will the American influencet.

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Yes, and we still have some horses in the military, too.


But *fewer* than we had in 1916, which was the point Obama made.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Mittens was following orders. He had to appease the far right with the "Might makes Right" portion of the program.

Did anyone notice how he kept bringing every answer back to the economy?
"So Governor Romney should we back Isreal in an attack?" Yes, because the President has failed to turn our economy around in 4 years. 5.4% unemployment, failed policies."
"But you didn't answer the question."
"It's not relevant, tumult."

How many times did he say the word tumult. It's like he learned a new word for the day and was told to use it in a sentence. Good for you Guv'ner. By the way, he did look like a Used Car Salesman...........

"She purrs like a kitten, what was the question again?"

"Foreign Policy Guv'ner"

"Oh that's easy, failed policies....economy"

"What about Syria?"

"Economy, failed policies.....uhhhh.....connection to the sea, Iran nukes bad."

"What about Iran?"

"I love peace, love and soooooooulllllllllll!!!!!!!!"

I'm surprised he didn't break out in song...."I'd love to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony...."

Who was that masked man? Mommy, I'm scared, make it stop.

It was blatantly obvious he was pandering to the undecided voters by claiming peace and love, offering a flower with the left hand, but we know he has a BIG STICK in his right hand behind his back.

I have a question for you 1000-Years-of-Darkness dudes. What makes you think that anyone, Repub or Dem, could ever fix the economy in 4 years, when it took 8 to bring us to the brink?
Ask Mittens that question..............never mind I already know what his answer will be.


SGG

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Originally posted by Hero:
History shows the US completely unprepared for war in 1916, but that was ok because the incumbent Democrat President promised we'd not be going to war.

History also shows that in 1940 the US was completely unprepared for war, but that was ok because the incumbent Democrat President promised we'd not be going to war.

I think Obama's point was we need fewer horses because we fly them off our carriers and we don't need bayonets because we have nuclear subs.

Imagine Joshua Lawrence Chamberlin facing another rebel charge up Little Round Top, no ammo, no reinforcements, half the regiment dead, fighting all day and no end in sight and if he retreats the battle, the war, and perhaps all that America could ever be lost forever. For God, for country, for freedom he draws his sword and he shouts "SUBMARINES!"

Maybe we should keep a few bayonets...for special occasions.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Right now the US military is larger and more powerful by a vast amount. So much so it is riddiculus. There is no need for us to be able to take on the rest of the world x3. Being able to beat it twice is enough.

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Originally posted by Hero:
China has a much, much larger military. Russia is also bigger and in terms of heavy divisions we are very far behind as a result of Clinton's 50% reductions in the 1990s.

Rather the fielding a 100 million man army or dozens of heavy divisions we use force multipliers based on combined arms tactics and use of advanced technologies. For example, outnumbered five to one our Air Force uses advanced fighters, standoff weapons, airborn controllers, and training to even the playing field. That costs money.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Yes it costs money, just not as much as we are spending now.

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