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Last night, it was revealed that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had ordered more security at the U.S. mission in Benghazi before it was attacked where four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens were murdered by Al-Qaeda but President Obama denied the request.
The news broke on TheBlazeTV’s “Wilkow!” hosted by Andrew Wilkow, by best-selling author, Ed Klein who said the legal counsel to Clinton had informed him of this information.

Klein also said that those same sources said that former President Bill Clinton has been “urging” his wife [Hillary] to release official State Department documents that prove she called for additional security at the compound in Libya, which would almost certainly result in President Obama losing the election.

Klein explained that everyone knew what was happening in Benghazi from the CIA to the National Security Agency and that there’s intelligence cables that have not been released.
Wilkow asked, “If everybody knew this including the White House, who would have given the order to go in and save the ambassador?”
Klein, “The President…he should have given the order to use the rapid reaction force…”
Wilkow, “Not Petraeus?”

Klein, “Well it has to come from the president.”
Wilkow also asked Klein about Valerie Jarrett who’s the Senior Advisor to Obama and Assistant to the President for Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs, and her role in this cover-up.

Klein said, “We don’t know but we can only assume that every action that the president takes, and he said so, he is on the record saying “I don’t take any actions without passing it by Valerie Jarrett”... so we have to assume that Valerie Jarrett whose also by the way, hooked into the Chicago campaign line…she has a direct line to David Axlerod, was a part of this whole cover-up in the White House.”

This latest news comes on the heels when the Paulding County Republican Examiner reportedthat former CIA officer, Clare Lopez was a guest on the Glenn Beck TV on Monday evening and told Beck, “They let our ambassador and others die. In real time, watching it happen, and they didn't do anything about it.”

http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=25445923&sour
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They saved American lives, doing what Navy SEALS are trained to do.

Leave no man behind.

NEVER !

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Very true.

Sometimes not very strategic, or smart.

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Mal got a lot of people killed by doing so, too.

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It is also interesting that the two Seals killed were told not to try and help. They ignored that order. Now there is no doubt they died heros, but had they stayed put they most likley would have survived.

At the end of the day you do not rush people in when you don't know what is going on.

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It is also interesting that the two Seals killed were told not to try and help. They ignored that order. Now there is no doubt they died heros, but had they stayed put they most likley would have survived.

At the end of the day you do not rush people in when you don't know what is going on.

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Wrong.

It appears that some CIA security forces (ex-Seals, actually) went, against orders, to the consulate when shooting started, but sucessfully evacuated the survivors and the body of Sean Smith back to the CIA annex. The casualties on the CIA team were taken later, during a mortar and rocket attack on the CIA annex.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-r
equest-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/

"Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/21/truth-behind-the-beng
hazi-attack.html

"Then within seconds there was a whooshing sound of rocket-propelled grenades being fired, raining down into the annex compound from attackers in positions concealed on rooftops and behind a stand of trees. In two minutes 15 RPGs hit. Then a pause. Then came the muffled sound of a mortar going off, and a devastating detonation as it hit the roof of one of the annex buildings. “It was a good shot,” says Febrayir. “Whoever fired it knew what they were doing.” It was dark. And they were too accurate. “They must have known the coordinates,” said Febrayir. He and his forces retreated down the road. Inside the annex, the high explosive rounds lobbed on top of the buildings killed two members of the quick-reaction team, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, who had taken up positions defending the compound. Special agent Ubben, who was barely able to move because of the smoke inhalation, also was hit by the blast but survived."

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I stand corrected.

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About a great many things, but so far, this is all you'll admit to, huh?

May not be much, but it's a start.

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I stand corrected.

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About a great many things, but so far, this is all you'll admit to, huh?

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I would like to know were fox and the other right wing media is getting all this information.

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You REALLY find that's what is so fucking important in all this ? Your petty, personal grudges , and not the fact that this administration allowed for Americans to just get slaughtered ?

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I would like to know were fox and the other right wing media is getting all this information.

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Since the sources that could report this are probably CIA, I can understand why Fox wouldn't provide their names,

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http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/26/father-of-slain-seal-tyrone-woods-ac
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Charlie Woods has been lied to, by this administration, concerning the murder of his heroic son.

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http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/26/father-of-slain-seal-tyrone-woods-ac
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Charlie Woods has been lied to, by this administration, concerning the murder of his heroic son.

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Where did he get his information, how does he know he was lied to?

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Why don't you ask HIM, instead of vilifying the only network willing to tell the story ?

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Of course we know you have never been interesting in the truth.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.
...and now a Fundie!
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53359

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Of course we know you have never been interesting in the truth.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.
...and now a Fundie!
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53359

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Again, I post this for the sake of posterity, least anyone not believe.



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Than why not considare this....

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[I stopped here, because what follows was nothing more than CYA tripe and nothing less than Prvada propaganda.

AND, well, for obvious reasons.

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HAHAAHAHAAHAHAHA....and you think Fox New which is nothing more that the GOP's media division, would not claim some mythical source for its own propaganda...HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.
...and now a Fundie!
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53359

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You REALLY find that's what is so fucking important in all this ? Your petty, personal grudges , and not the fact that this administration allowed for Americans to just get slaughtered ?

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You sick little fuck.

This isn't ABOUT FOX, or 1 gorram " right wing media " outlet. It's about an administrtion that allowed Americans to be slaughtered, despite repeated calls for back up, because doing other wise would cramp this asshole's political agenda.

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It's interesting that you have no problem citing Fox when you note that some CIA security forces left the CIA Annex for the consulate against orders, but don't believe the same sources when they say something you don't like.

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The plot thickens...

Stories have changed and fingers are now being pointed...



Obama did not deny request for assistance from Benghazi diplomats says aide

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Yet when a reporter asked Pres. Obama point blank if requests for aid had been denied, he got no answer.

http://www.9news.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=1927193023001&odysse
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He got an answer, sorry you don't like it.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.
...and now a Fundie!
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53359

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Reuters reported Wednesday that on September 11—the day of the attack—a State Department email with the subject header "Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack" was sent to the White House. The message stated that "Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli." Case closed, conservatives said: The White House had engaged in a cover-up.

"[T]he president and his advisers repeatedly told us the attack was spontaneous reaction to the anti-Muslim video and that it lacked information suggesting it was a terrorist assault," wrote Jennifer Rubin, president of the Washington Post's Mitt Romney fan club. "Bottom line? Barack Obama was willfully and knowingly lying to the American people," wrote Danielle Pletka, vice president for foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. (Of course, the idea that the video played a role is not inconsistent with the idea that the attack was an "act of terror," a phrase the president himself used to describe the attack in the days following the incident.)

There's only one problem—well, actually, there are many, but one big one: The email appears to have been incorrect. Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi, the group suspected of attacking the consulate, never claimed responsibility for the assault. In fact, according to Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who monitors jihadist activity online, Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi didn't post about the attack on its Facebook or Twitter page until September 12, the day after the attack. They expressed their approval of the incident, but they didn't take credit; they did imply members of the group might have been involved, according to Zelin, stating, "Katibat Ansar al-Sharia [in Benghazi] as a military did not participate formally/officially and not by direct orders." The statement also justifies the attack by implicitly alluding to the anti-Islam video linked to unrest in other parts of the Middle East, saying, "We commend the Libyan Muslim people in Benghazi [that were] against the attack on the [Muslim] Prophet [Muhammad]."

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GOP's Benghazi Smoking Gun Goes Up in Smoke

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Reuters reported Wednesday that on September 11—the day of the attack—a State Department email with the subject header "Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack" was sent to the White House. The message stated that "Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli." Case closed, conservatives said: The White House had engaged in a cover-up.

"[T]he president and his advisers repeatedly told us the attack was spontaneous reaction to the anti-Muslim video and that it lacked information suggesting it was a terrorist assault," wrote Jennifer Rubin, president of the Washington Post's Mitt Romney fan club. "Bottom line? Barack Obama was willfully and knowingly lying to the American people," wrote Danielle Pletka, vice president for foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. (Of course, the idea that the video played a role is not inconsistent with the idea that the attack was an "act of terror," a phrase the president himself used to describe the attack in the days following the incident.)

There's only one problem—well, actually, there are many, but one big one: The email appears to have been incorrect. Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi, the group suspected of attacking the consulate, never claimed responsibility for the assault. In fact, according to Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who monitors jihadist activity online, Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi didn't post about the attack on its Facebook or Twitter page until September 12, the day after the attack. They expressed their approval of the incident, but they didn't take credit; they did imply members of the group might have been involved, according to Zelin, stating, "Katibat Ansar al-Sharia [in Benghazi] as a military did not participate formally/officially and not by direct orders." The statement also justifies the attack by implicitly alluding to the anti-Islam video linked to unrest in other parts of the Middle East, saying, "We commend the Libyan Muslim people in Benghazi [that were] against the attack on the [Muslim] Prophet [Muhammad]."

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http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/10/benghazi-libya-state-emails








"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Yet when a reporter asked Pres. Obama point blank if requests for aid had been denied, he got no answer.

http://www.9news.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=1927193023001&odysse
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Reuters reported Wednesday that on September 11—the day of the attack—a State Department email with the subject header "Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack" was sent to the White House. The message stated that "Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli." Case closed, conservatives said: The White House had engaged in a cover-up.

"[T]he president and his advisers repeatedly told us the attack was spontaneous reaction to the anti-Muslim video and that it lacked information suggesting it was a terrorist assault," wrote Jennifer Rubin, president of the Washington Post's Mitt Romney fan club. "Bottom line? Barack Obama was willfully and knowingly lying to the American people," wrote Danielle Pletka, vice president for foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. (Of course, the idea that the video played a role is not inconsistent with the idea that the attack was an "act of terror," a phrase the president himself used to describe the attack in the days following the incident.)

There's only one problem—well, actually, there are many, but one big one: The email appears to have been incorrect. Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi, the group suspected of attacking the consulate, never claimed responsibility for the assault. In fact, according to Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who monitors jihadist activity online, Ansar al-Sharia in Benghazi didn't post about the attack on its Facebook or Twitter page until September 12, the day after the attack. They expressed their approval of the incident, but they didn't take credit; they did imply members of the group might have been involved, according to Zelin, stating, "Katibat Ansar al-Sharia [in Benghazi] as a military did not participate formally/officially and not by direct orders." The statement also justifies the attack by implicitly alluding to the anti-Islam video linked to unrest in other parts of the Middle East, saying, "We commend the Libyan Muslim people in Benghazi [that were] against the attack on the [Muslim] Prophet [Muhammad]."

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http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/10/benghazi-libya-state-emails

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Nope. He got evasion.

Answers would have been simple.

"Were folks in Benghazi denied support?"

A. Yes.
B. No.
C. I don't know.

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So the State Department screwed up yet again, and we're supposed to feel good about this why?

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It seems the right's main problem with this (well, aside from just latching onto anything they think they can hang on Obama) is they're pissed that the Admin didn't rush to judgement.

I think they'd have been happier if we just declared that Libya has WMDs, and then invaded that weekend.


"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum


"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Funny.

Now I thought Obama was in bed, somehow at the same time watching events and had obviously forgotten he was Commander-n-Chief.

...makes total sense. When does the unicorn come into the picture?

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