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Ok, this is like the tenth one of these I have seen just THIS YEAR!

POSTED BY: WISHIMAY
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Tuesday, November 20, 2012 2:01 PM

WISHIMAY


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2235986/Judy-Allen-Beloved-dog
-Boo-Boo-shot-head-police-searching-neighborhood-runaway-boy.html
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I say we give the people who have had their dogs shot a gun and let them go to these bastards houses and shoot THEIR pets... or let them give them away to someone who isn't a douchebag.

Maybe they would think twice the next time...

I'm really starting to think an "eye for an eye" really ISN'T such a bad policy.


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Tuesday, November 20, 2012 2:10 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Makes me to see these sorts of stories!!

And you're right, they do seem to be happening more and more.

Trigger happy cop goes after the family dog, and not ONE gorram thing happens to the cop.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:27 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


More than a few of 'em have been here in Austin, and not shit's being done about it.

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Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:39 PM

WISHIMAY


What kind of a bastard shoots a DOG anyway?

Have all the police departments issued some kind of edict that if they get bit they get fired or something? Because I can't think of any other reason for this besides just being a giant raging prick!

Maybe we could get people to give a bag of dog treats to cops so they have something else in their arsenals to use...
And WHY hasn't Dateline or someone done a story on all of these? These guys need to be stopped dammit...

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Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:01 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Lot's of strange stuff with folks attacking animals recently.

Quote:

BOISE, Idaho (AP) - A 22-year-old man who police say killed a monkey after breaking into the Boise zoo has encountered run-ins with the law in the last three years that include a pair of drug arrests and a conviction for driving drunk.

A day after Michael J. Watkins' arrest, authorities attempted to answer what may have prompted the once-promising wrestler from western Idaho to enter the facility early Saturday and what he planned to do with the animal, officials said.

Members of the community and Watkins' family also were trying to determine what could have led to the attack and why someone would do such a thing. His mother, Susan Watkins, said in a brief interview Tuesday from her home in McCall that as much as the public is perplexed by what happened, "I am too. That's all I can say."


http://www.wtop.com/209/3125831/Suspects-family-has-questions-in-monke
y-killing


and...

Quote:

ALONG THE GULF COAST (AP) - Over the past several months, dolphins have washed ashore along the northern Gulf Coast with bullet wounds, missing jaws and hacked off fins, and federal officials said they are looking into the mysterious deaths.

The most recent case was of a dolphin found dead off the coast of Mississippi, its lower jaw missing.

Officials from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said Monday they're asking everyone from beachgoers to fishermen to wildlife agents to be on the lookout for injured or dead dolphins _ and any unusual interaction between the mammals and people.

"It's very sad to think that anyone could do that to any animal," said Erin Fougeres, a marine mammal scientist for NOAA's southeast office in St. Petersburg, Fla. "There have been some obviously intentional cases."

Fougeres said five dolphins have been found shot. In Louisiana, two were shot in 2011 and one in 2012. And in Mississippi, three were found shot this year, the most recent one last week, which was first reported by the Sun-Herald newspaper.

Besides the shootings, a dolphin in Alabama was found with a screwdriver stuck in its head over the summer. Another in Alabama had its tail cut off, and that animal survived. Still others were missing fins or had cuts to their bodies.



http://www.wtop.com/884/3125999/Violent-dolphin-deaths-a-mystery-for-s
cientists




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Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:20 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Only ten ?

You have *NO* idea, Radley Balko apparently coined the term "Puppycide" for it, and muchlike the abuse of tasers, this is often done as a form of proxy-abuse/retaliation upon people who "did nah respect zee authoritay!".

And it also leads down darker roads when you explore the issue more thoroughly.
http://www.windypundit.com/archives/puppycide/
One of the primary indicating factors of a serious and downright dangerous personality disorder, especially early on, is cruelty to animals.
http://www.dspca.ie/index.jsp?p=124&n=297&a=304

This is made all the worse by "Training" IMHO has curdled into cult-level brainwashing which leaves most of them either reasoning psychotics or downright sociopaths with a fragile ego and a desperate need to be "in control" and this has in time via cycle of reinforcement lead us to this pass.

I've stressed before that there is almost zero training in negotiation or de-escalation within most law enforcement curriculums and that is a tremendous disservice to both the officers and the public they claim to serve - this is a natural escalation of a pre-existing and inherent problem, since if they have no mental or social "tools" for dealing with humans outside of force, obviously they have even less for dealing with animals.

I do know of at least one officer who got himself shot for this already.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2025812/Police-officer-Robert-
Lasso-shot-dead-pointing-stun-gun-mans-dogs.html

Quote:

Police Chief George Bruneio, who arrived after Mr Lasso requested assistance, instructed him to 'shoot the dogs' and that's when the homeowner pulled out a shotgun and fired, authorities said.

Side note: many taser models are very hard to tell from firearms especially at a distance (noted previously in the don't-tase-me-bro thread) and hearing those words while seeing an obvious "weapon" being drawn, logically the homeowner WOULD make the conclusion here.
Also, if the dogs really *WERE* a threat, pretty obvious that Lasso would have already been bitten - the Police Chiefs order was purely spite and malice, no matter how the incident is spun by a compliant and supine media.

Animal mistreatment and abuse is one of the many reasons I have a grudge against the badge bearing horde, and not just Puppycide either, as the mistreatment and abuse of K-9 units is completely unacceptable, something Prince Georges County Maryland is notorious for, mistreating them to make them aggressive and then setting them upon downed/compliant suspects, I've had my own run-in with them personally, although I don't blame the dogs.

And while not an overt act of abuse, I consider the manipulation of supposed drug sniffing dogs to be a disservice to the animal as well.
http://www.businessinsider.com/nevada-police-accused-of-using-dogs-to-
violate-citizens-rights-2012-7

http://www.lvrj.com/news/legal-challenge-questions-reliability-of-poli
ce-dogs-161759505.html

Quote:

The reliability of drug dogs and their handlers is at the heart of a lawsuit filed in state district court by two Nevada Highway Patrol K-9 troopers and a consultant, who claim that the Metropolitan Police Department's police dogs, and eventually NHP's own dogs, were "trick ponies" that responded to their handlers' cues, and therefore routinely violated citizens' rights to lawful search under the Fourth Amendment.

Worth a mention is that some of our residents here have dogs, and a couple of those dogs are protective of their turf and their people - I made friends with the friendly ones (and some who aren't, oddly enough!) but I also respect the dog... all HE knows is that there is a stranger approaching his turf, his people, that uniform means NOTHING to him.
I point that out when the owner starts apologizing for it, the doggy is doing his job, just as I am doing mine, and I go around his "bubble" so as not to needlessly provoke the poor critter.

You COULD teach that to cops, but nobody does.
And yes, it's also a failure of human decency and common sense, but I have come to expect that from the boys in blue.

-Frem

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Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:54 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Neal Boortz, dog lover himself, says that almost all, if not entirely, every one of the cop shootings of family dogs is done by a black cop. Says most blacks are fearful of dogs , and a majority of their interaction w/ them are the violent types, like Pit Bulls and such. So, when they come upon a barking dog, like a Lab or Retriever, they just figure ' Must be ready to bite , so I'd better shoot it'.

Not sure how he gets that info, as I'd guess the PD's would guard that info of which of their officers were responsible, but that's the claim.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:12 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Neal Boortz, dog lover himself, says that almost all, if not entirely, every one of the cop shootings of family dogs is done by a black cop. Says most blacks are fearful of dogs , and a majority of their interaction w/ them are the violent types, like Pit Bulls and such. So, when they come upon a barking dog, like a Lab or Retriever, they just figure ' Must be ready to bite , so I'd better shoot it'.




How does that second sentence, " most blacks are fearful of dogs." correspond with all the black "tough guys" or gangbangers I see around here, each with his own monster, ill-mannered pit bull on a big chain. Proof how bad-ass they are? For scaring the other "bad dudes" away? As an unlicensed weapon? For intimidating victims? For keeping the cops and K-9 cops in their cars?

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Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:29 PM

WISHIMAY


I have to agree with that partly. I lived summers in Florida as a kid and we always had chihuahuas. I have seen some big grown up black men turn tail(one even hid behind his wife LOL) if it looked like our dog was gonna even BARK, which I always thought was strange... Lotsa people are afraid of dogs but I don't think I've ever seen that degree of reaction from others..

I don't think I would have put that together, though. I wonder if dogs in general tend to react more forcefully to a black male than other genders and sexes, and thus is an ingrained reaction on their part??

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Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:59 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

How does that second sentence, " most blacks are fearful of dogs." correspond with all the black "tough guys" or gangbangers I see around here, each with his own monster, ill-mannered pit bull on a big chain. Proof how bad-ass they are? For scaring the other "bad dudes" away? As an unlicensed weapon? For intimidating victims? For keeping the cops and K-9 cops in their cars?



Such dogs serve as protection , as well as a symbol for status. Owning such animals tells others that you're important, and have a NEED for them to be there in the first place. Also, it shows others how you're a true bad mo-fo, and that these 'monsters', which should scare the bejesus out of anyone, are your pets.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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