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Solar and Fracking Go Together Like Ham and Eggs

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Tuesday, April 2, 2013 9:14 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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David Roberts has an interesting post today summarizing a new report from Citi Research about renewable power and natural gas. Basically, it turns out they go together like ham and eggs.

Here's the nickel summary: Renewable energy tends to be sporadic (solar only during the the day, wind only when it's windy, etc.), so if you rely heavily on renewable energy you need a secondary source that can be brought on and off line quickly to provide "peaking power." It turns out that gas-fired plants fill this bill nicely. What's more, as renewables expand even more, they start to eat into baseload power, and since baseload plants can't switch on and off off quickly, they'll no longer be economically viable and will get retired. That means even more natural gas.

The bad news here is that this means an ever expanding role for natural gas fracking. The good news is that it will mostly be replacing coal, so it's a net benefit.


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http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/04/solar-and-fracking-they-
go-together-ham-and-eggs

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Tuesday, April 2, 2013 10:38 AM

DREAMTROVE


Nice little fluff piece. Not true, but a friendly little kowtow to the Nat Gas industry. Natural Gas is trying to push out oil and claim the center stage of energy for its own. It knows that the green crowd is very unhappy with coal at the moment because of mountaintop removal, so selling itself as a coal alternative makes for a better sell in places like Mother Jones. For real though, Nat Gas is pushing for the home sell against heating oil, and the industry is terrified of renewables because they're aiming for the same market. In reality, they go together like kindergartens and assault rifles.

Fortunately, Fracking is standing on some very shaky ground:
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/01/fracking_the_next_bubble_partner/

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Tuesday, April 2, 2013 11:14 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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In reality, they go together like kindergartens and assault rifles.

Amen.


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