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Boston, and the Worst Of Us
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:14 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Westboro Hate Group Blames Boston’s Same Sex Marriage For Bombs Westboro Baptist Church, a small anti-gay, anti-Semite group of haters based in Hell, I mean Kansas, came out of their hole yesterday, just hours after the Boston bombings, to damn us all. I saw that they had just released a statement which will be made into flyers, saying they plan to picket the funerals of those who died in the Boston bombs. On their site, GodHatesFags.com, they claim have picketed over 50,000 funerals. Yesterday, they said the Boston bombings were due to Boston’s equal-marriage laws — except that’s not what they called the laws. This despicable group couldn’t even wait one day after the tragedy without damning the three victims who have died, including an eight-year-old boy. Westboro Baptist Church got on Twitter within hours to spew their special brand of hate, throughout social media and the world. That’s what they do. [Note: as of this writing their site with the statement above was down...]
Quote:Gun ‘Enthusiasts’ Respond To Boston Marathon Bombings By Demanding More Guns Before the smoke had even cleared, gun massacre advocates took to Facebook to declare their love of guns and how any attempts to regulate them is treasonous. Oh, yeah, some people got killed and I feel bad BUT DON’T YOU TAKE MY GUNS! I went through the first 50 Senators’ Facebook pages to see the first batch of responses to the bombing. Most hadn’t commented yet but some did. Several of those pages had reader comments that were of shared grief and concern. But then there were the other pages. Those were filled with all kinds of rage and hate. The gun nuts were less than concerned about the dead and injured and more with making sure no one could touch their precious guns. Unsurprisingly, the majority of that anger showed up on Republican pages. I didn’t bother deleting their names because it’s in a public forum and some people should be ashamed of themselves: John McCain: My thoughts and prayers are with the people of Boston and everyone involved with the marathon.Quote:Dave Poole You share responsibility with the demoRATs and other RINOs for selling Aerica out and making us an easy target.Quote:Chuck Pullen Maybe we should make bombs illegal too?Quote:Mary Lab Your too worried about taking our 2nd admentment rights away, and making illegals Michael F. Bennet (D): There are many Coloradans running the Boston Marathon today. Our thoughts are with the victims and first responders dealing with this tragedy. Use this Red Cross website to search for loved ones and list yourself as safe.Quote:Larry W. Williams Here are the 46 senators, who are enemies of The Constitution and The Bill of Rights, that voted to give your rights to the U.N. (I skipped the names in the interests of space) These Senators, enemies of The Constitution and The Bill of Rights, who voted to let the UN take our guns. They need to lose the election. We have been betrayed. These 46 Senators Voted to Give your 2nd Amendment Constitutional Rights to the U.N.Quote:John Wray Sad sad sad, but the HUGE divide in this country will rear it’s head more and more. People are frustrated with a government that is dominated by liberals and totally out of touch with the majority of the country. This administration just doesn’t care Johnny Isakson (R): Praying for everyone in Boston affected by this terrible tragedy.Quote:Keith Beck And you want to control our gunsQuote:Judy Walker-Paulk Maybe you could introduce a bill to ban marathons—they are killing people!Quote:Carey Meadows Terrible things like this happen and you want to legislate our right to protect ourselves away. Mike Crapo (R): Please join me in keeping the people of Boston in your thoughts and prayers!Quote:Gary B Maxey This was a horrible example of a weapon of mass destruction – just like an AR-15 with a 30 clip magazine. Neither should be available to private citizens. (Finally! A liberal jerk! He’s actually on several other pages like Pat Roberts, Jerry Moran and Mitch McConnell and gives the rest of us a bad name- FLS)Quote:Nick’s Politics One’s first thought during terrible events is with the victims. Then it goes to the culprits. After questioning the cause it becomes why didn’t they go after those responsible and in charge instead of people who aren’t involved. Soon followed by, “Oh great, what freedom are they going to take now.” Notice all this is happening in places supposedly made more safe by stricter gun laws and liberal policies. (But then it’s right back to the right wing jerks – FLS)Quote:Mary Eileen Twyman I’m also wondering, Nick — Who knew about it but failed to act — ie: bho too lazy to attend morning briefings and bho paralyzed by fear and standing down @Benghazi — Who’s going to allow bho throw them under a bus to cover for his cowardly backside on this one? Dan Coats (R): My thoughts and prayers are with those involved in the Boston Marathon tragedyQuote:Gary Canada We don’t need gun laws- we need people laws. TSA and DHS are useless and both a financial drain. We need enforcement of the laws we have and faith in Democracy. We need leadership from the front (not behind) ,transparency, and communication. We have lost our way and today need prayers. Jerry Moran (R): My prayers are with all those affected by the explosions in Boston. Grateful for the emergency responders & bystanders who are acting quickly to help.Quote:Mike Larreau THIS IS TRUELY SAD AND EVIL, BUT THIS GOES TO SHOW YOU IF SOME NUT JOB WANTS TO KILL INOCENT PEOPLE, THEY DON’T NEED AN AR-15 OR ANY GUN TO DO IT ! Mitch McConnell (R): Prayers for the people of Boston & runners and spectators at the marathon. Thanks to the first responders and volunteers on the scene now.Quote:Danny Prater Of course prayers but why do you have to allow debate on more gun control!! Don’t think a gun done this but lack of them in people hands likely has!!! David Vitter (R): Our family’s hearts and prayers go out to all of those hurt by the horrible explosions at the Boston Marathon. If this is indeed an intentional act, we all must stand strong and united against these sorts of heartless, cowardly attacks.Quote:Donnell Dent It’s time we take back our country, this is horrible! I’ll be darned if I ever give up my rights to carry a gun with horrific things like this going on, it’s sinful!Quote:Jenae Wise Don’t let them use another tragedy to push their agendas… Please. Susan Collins (R): Sen. Collins joins Senator Angus S. King, Jr. in expressing “deep sadness by the deplorable and heinous act of violence in Boston today. Reports that multiple improvised explosive devices may have been involved at this high profile national event bear the hallmarks of a terrorist attack.”Quote:Lawrence Horn Collins is an outright traitor..going to vote on a 1500 page piece of gun control legislation with out having read it through…same as she did with Obama Care..time for her to retire w/o a pensionQuote:Donna Noble Short One of the first questions people ask is “Who was it?” How about we start taking our boarder security seriously. We don’t even know who is in our country – so, yes, we don’t know for sure if it’s homegrown or foreign because we have millions of people here illegally.Quote:Jerry Tonubbee When will we start background checks on people that buy things that can be made into bombs? The next time some random gun nut insists that “libs” are just angry and hate filled, show them the bile that poured forth within hours of a terrorist attack. The callous and self-obsessed nature of gun massacre advocates is hard to overstate and these are the people that are claim they are “responsible?”
Quote:Dave Poole You share responsibility with the demoRATs and other RINOs for selling Aerica out and making us an easy target.
Quote:Chuck Pullen Maybe we should make bombs illegal too?
Quote:Mary Lab Your too worried about taking our 2nd admentment rights away, and making illegals
Quote:Larry W. Williams Here are the 46 senators, who are enemies of The Constitution and The Bill of Rights, that voted to give your rights to the U.N. (I skipped the names in the interests of space) These Senators, enemies of The Constitution and The Bill of Rights, who voted to let the UN take our guns. They need to lose the election. We have been betrayed. These 46 Senators Voted to Give your 2nd Amendment Constitutional Rights to the U.N.
Quote:John Wray Sad sad sad, but the HUGE divide in this country will rear it’s head more and more. People are frustrated with a government that is dominated by liberals and totally out of touch with the majority of the country. This administration just doesn’t care
Quote:Keith Beck And you want to control our guns
Quote:Judy Walker-Paulk Maybe you could introduce a bill to ban marathons—they are killing people!
Quote:Carey Meadows Terrible things like this happen and you want to legislate our right to protect ourselves away.
Quote:Gary B Maxey This was a horrible example of a weapon of mass destruction – just like an AR-15 with a 30 clip magazine. Neither should be available to private citizens. (Finally! A liberal jerk! He’s actually on several other pages like Pat Roberts, Jerry Moran and Mitch McConnell and gives the rest of us a bad name- FLS)
Quote:Nick’s Politics One’s first thought during terrible events is with the victims. Then it goes to the culprits. After questioning the cause it becomes why didn’t they go after those responsible and in charge instead of people who aren’t involved. Soon followed by, “Oh great, what freedom are they going to take now.” Notice all this is happening in places supposedly made more safe by stricter gun laws and liberal policies. (But then it’s right back to the right wing jerks – FLS)
Quote:Mary Eileen Twyman I’m also wondering, Nick — Who knew about it but failed to act — ie: bho too lazy to attend morning briefings and bho paralyzed by fear and standing down @Benghazi — Who’s going to allow bho throw them under a bus to cover for his cowardly backside on this one?
Quote:Gary Canada We don’t need gun laws- we need people laws. TSA and DHS are useless and both a financial drain. We need enforcement of the laws we have and faith in Democracy. We need leadership from the front (not behind) ,transparency, and communication. We have lost our way and today need prayers.
Quote:Mike Larreau THIS IS TRUELY SAD AND EVIL, BUT THIS GOES TO SHOW YOU IF SOME NUT JOB WANTS TO KILL INOCENT PEOPLE, THEY DON’T NEED AN AR-15 OR ANY GUN TO DO IT !
Quote:Danny Prater Of course prayers but why do you have to allow debate on more gun control!! Don’t think a gun done this but lack of them in people hands likely has!!!
Quote:Donnell Dent It’s time we take back our country, this is horrible! I’ll be darned if I ever give up my rights to carry a gun with horrific things like this going on, it’s sinful!
Quote:Jenae Wise Don’t let them use another tragedy to push their agendas… Please.
Quote:Lawrence Horn Collins is an outright traitor..going to vote on a 1500 page piece of gun control legislation with out having read it through…same as she did with Obama Care..time for her to retire w/o a pension
Quote:Donna Noble Short One of the first questions people ask is “Who was it?” How about we start taking our boarder security seriously. We don’t even know who is in our country – so, yes, we don’t know for sure if it’s homegrown or foreign because we have millions of people here illegally.
Quote:Jerry Tonubbee When will we start background checks on people that buy things that can be made into bombs?
Quote:Fox News’ Erik Rush Tweets ‘Kill All Muslims’ Immediately After Boston Marathon Bombings Despite the fact that no known facts were made known about the culprit behind today’s senseless bombings during the Boston Marathon, facts have never stood in the way of Fox in the past so why break dangerous precedent? Fox News ran with a totally debunked and bogus story about having the bomber in custody and then being a Saudi national, then the network managed to locate the biggest attention-seeking paste-eater. Pretend journalist and Fox News Contributor, Erik Rush, decided that the appropriate response was to do what Fox News does best: make purposefully incendiary comments designed to attack the fractious emotions of their totally unspectacular audience. The World Net Daily and Fox News Contributor claims that he was being ‘sarcastic’ and was just joking. Yes, taking a totally tragic event in which people were killed, and when we haven’t a single fact on the perpetrator yet; creating hysteria, vigilantism, and possible acts of reprisal on an entire class of people is simply hysterical. This is yet another reason why conservatives aren’t funny, and when they try, they just come across like the needy teenage girl (or NY Congressman) who snaps a scandalous mirror photo of themselves.
Quote:Was The FBI Responsible For The Attack At The Boston Marathon? Alex Jones Seems To Think So Conservative radio host Alex Jones took to Twitter very soon after the tragedy at the Boston Marathon, professing sympathy for those involved, but then, according to Mediaite, saying that it was a “false flag,” and that the FBI “has been behind virtually every domestic terror plot in the U.S. as NY Times reported.” Mediaite also reports that he believes the Transportation Security Administration will use the incident as an excuse to “start groping you at sporting events.”
Quote:Forget the fact that conservative radio host Alex Jones jumped up on his wackadoo Twitter soapbox tonight and blamed the FBI for the bombing at the Boston Marathon. It pales in comparison to what happened only a few hours later when InfoWars “reporter” Dan Bidondi attempted to hijack a press conference away from Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick by insisting the bombing was nothing more than a “false flag staged attack.” Quote:The first question that Massachusetts GovernorDeval Patrick received during tonight’s second press conference on the Boston Marathon bombings came from someone who may be a follower of conservative radio host Alex Jones. The questioner, who some on the scene are identifyingas InfoWars’ Dan Bidondi asked Patrick directly if the bombings were a “false flag staged attack” meant to “take our civil liberties.” That’s right, it musta bin the ‘guvment.
Quote:The first question that Massachusetts GovernorDeval Patrick received during tonight’s second press conference on the Boston Marathon bombings came from someone who may be a follower of conservative radio host Alex Jones. The questioner, who some on the scene are identifyingas InfoWars’ Dan Bidondi asked Patrick directly if the bombings were a “false flag staged attack” meant to “take our civil liberties.”
Quote:Boston. Fucking horrible. I remember, when 9/11 went down, my reaction was, “Well, I’ve had it with humanity.” But I was wrong. I don’t know what’s going to be revealed to be behind all of this mayhem. One human insect or a poisonous mass of broken sociopaths. But here’s what I DO know. If it’s one person or a HUNDRED people, that number is not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population on this planet. You watch the videos of the carnage and there are people running TOWARDS the destruction to help out. (Thanks FAKE Gallery founder and owner Paul Kozlowski for pointing this out to me). This is a giant planet and we’re lucky to live on it but there are prices and penalties incurred for the daily miracle of existence. One of them is, every once in awhile, the wiring of a tiny sliver of the species gets snarled and they’re pointed towards darkness. But the vast majority stands against that darkness and, like white blood cells attacking a virus, they dilute and weaken and eventually wash away the evil doers and, more importantly, the damage they wreak. This is beyond religion or creed or nation. We would not be here if humanity were inherently evil. We’d have eaten ourselves alive long ago. So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, “The good outnumber you, and we always will.”
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:26 AM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:UM Coach: Bomb Sniffing Dogs Were at Start, Finish Lines for “Drill” Local 15 TV April 15, 2013 [Editor's Note: Just as with the Madrid bombing and 7/7 bombings in London and countless others, a drill coincides with the real event. This is done so that if the compartmentalized operation is exposed the operatives executing the attack can simply claim they were part of the drill.] University of Mobile’s Cross Country Coach, who was near the finish line of the Boston Marathon when a series of explosions went off, said he thought it was odd there were bomb sniffing dogs at the start and finish lines. “They kept making announcements on the loud speaker that it was just a drill and there was nothing to worry about,” Coach Ali Stevenson told Local 15. “It seemed like there was some sort of threat, but they kept telling us it was just a drill.” Stevenson had just finished the marathon. His wife had been sitting in one of the seating sections where an explosion went off, but thankfully she left her seat and was walking to meet up with him. “There was just smoke, another explosion went off,” Stevenson said. “We all started running. There were people crying.” Stevenson said there was no question in his mind that this was an intentional act. Local 15 News is talking with more locals who were taking part in the run. http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopular/story/UM-Coach-Bomb-Sniffing-Dogs-Were-at-Start-Finish/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspx
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:37 AM
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:38 AM
STORYMARK
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:40 AM
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:00 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Of course I should have known he'd come in jumping on the InfoWars bandwagon, but isn't there SOME kind of rule against the sort of photos he posts???? SOMEthing?
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Gawd almighty, I came back to see if there were some intelligent comments, and find PN FILTH plastered everywhere. Of course I should have known he'd come in jumping on the InfoWars bandwagon, but isn't there SOME kind of rule against the sort of photos he posts???? SOMEthing? Haken??
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:12 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Yeah, its in the Constitution. The fine print after free speech says (unless we find it offensive, annoying, or we disagree with it for moral or political reasons).
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:23 AM
Quote:Barney Frank Demands Higher Taxes Over Boston Bombing, MSNBC Anchor Calls Him Out For Politicizing Attack Former Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), speaking with MSNBC anchor Thomas Roberts on Tuesday, made the case that the government needs to raise tax rates and generate more federal revenue in order to ensure Massachusetts does not have to pay for the post-Boston Marathon Bombing rebuilding effort. Roberts expressed his concern that Frank was politicizing the deadly attack less than 24-hours after the fact. Frank cautioned that there should not be a “hyperbolic” reaction to the attacks, and that he thinks Bostonians will feel safe again in the near future. However, he said that the attack is an effective argument against those who would seek to shrink government. “No, let’s continue to build up security,” Frank said. “This is very expensive for the city of Boston over time.” “I hope that we will be able to find some revenue so that Boston doesn’t have to pay for this absolutely necessary expenditure by cutting back on other important services down the line,” the former Democratic congressman continued. “Do you feel like you’re capitalizing and making political hay of this event that happened?” Roberts asked. “I’m talking common sense,” Frank replied. “I’m saying that, if the sequester had gone through and we had not had enough money, we couldn’t be able to do this. I’m making an argument about reality, and that’s the only responsible response.” Frank concluded that he hoped that some people would be “less enthusiastic” about “reducing our ability to respond to a crisis like this.” Frank called the Boston attack a “teaching moment” about what Americans expect from civil society. More at
Quote:Beck Knows ‘Middle Eastern’ Terrorists Bombed Boston Because ‘When Our Crazies Go Off, They Target The Govt’ Monday night during his BlazeTV show, Glenn Beck offered his thoughts on the Boston Marathon bombings and who might have been responsible. He rejected the notion suggested by some that the attack was perpetrated by an American citizen “all hacked off at the government.” Instead, he suggested that “Middle Eastern” terrorists had to be behind the attack because “when our crazies go off, they target the government.” “No American citizen blows up random people,” Beck asserted, “that’s a Middle Eastern scene.” He went on to express his wariness of the Obama administration in the wake of the attack, alluding to the “workplace shooting” designation that was given to the 2009 Fort Hood rampage. “Do you believe we will know the true story of what really happened today?” Beck asked. Beck called out President Obama for saying “there’s no such thing as terrorism… there’s no such thing as Al Qaeda, all of this bull crap.” While the president did hesitate to call the Bostom bombings an “act of terror” yesterday until he knew more information, he did use those words during an address today. “How does the government that’s been in denial spin this?” Beck wondered. Anchors on CNN, Fox News and elsewhere speculated about the connection between yesterday’s attack in Boston and the 1995's Oklahoma City bombing. While the perpetrator of that attack, American citizen Timothy McVeigh, targeted a federal building, he also did “blow up random people,” including 19 children under the age of 6. http://www.mediaite.com/online/beck-knows-middle-eastern-terrorists-bombed-boston-because-when-our-crazies-go-off-they-target-the-govt/] Sigh...
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:04 AM
AGENTROUKA
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 2:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Funny, you'd think an actual lawyer would know that that has zero bearing on a private site. Haken could delete each and every PN post if he so wanted - and be perfectly fine by the constitution. Like I said, a *real* lawyer would know...
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:32 PM
MAL4PREZ
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Wow, somebody brought the snarky...what you may not realize is that PN is in a protected class which means that his freedom of speech cannot be denied on a private site that is open to the public from multiple states and countries. So, like a bar can't have the 'don't serve that kind here', meaning blacks or droids...the Constitution does apply here... For the record he's got a mental disability and must be accomdated.
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Wow. So I just need some doctor to call me crazy, then I can do whatever I want? If I get diagnosed with anger issues, I have the right to chase people down in the street and scream at them, and they can do nothing about it? I can even follow them into their private homes and scream at them there?
Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:08 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: Thank you very much for the warning, Niki. I didn't look, and I appreciated having the choice.
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:15 AM
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:36 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Violence happens; it brings out the best, and the worst, in all of us:
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Clearly everyone should have their own bombs so they can protect themselves. #NRAlogic
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:51 AM
Quote:Laura Ingraham, a regular on Faux News and one of the most vile of the anti-immigrant talking heads, decided to use the Boston Marathon bombings as a way to spread her anti immigrant propaganda on her radio show Tuesday. MediaMatters has a video with the audio.Quote:LAURA INGRAHAM: This, in my mind, raises all sorts of questions. I mean, again, we don't know who did this, motivations, all of that. But it is interesting that at this moment -- we are considering legalizing or giving regularized status to millions of people. Pretty much none of them have gone through any rigorous background checks, to have a temporary status in the United States. And we don't -- I just think that there are all sorts of security implications aside from the other arguments on immigration -- national security implications that we don't talk about with enough frankness and I think certitude here. We can't stop every attack, but my goodness, if we had borders that were shut down and we actually had a proper screening process, maybe we could stop some of them. Video at http://mediamatters.org/video/2013/04/16/laura-ingraham-uses-boston-bombing-to-stoke-fea/193640] Her absolute ignorance of how immigration laws work, amazes me. She claimed that the government is about to legalize millions of people that have not had proper background checks. Ummmm….say what? At this point in time, if an undocumented immigrant wishes to apply for status they must pass through a background check. This is a fact! My husband is an immigrant from El Salvador and when applying for Temporary Protective Status, the second thing he had to do, after filing the paperwork, was to go to the local United States Immigration and Citizenship Services Office and submit his fingerprints for a FBI background check. The FBI runs the immigrant’s fingerprints through their database and if there is anything to be found, they will find it. My husband found that out the hard way when his ten year old DUI came back to haunt him. Maybe Laura just overlooked these facts when she did the research for her show. HAHAHA don’t believe that either, do you? More than likely she figured she’d just throw that dishonesty out there because she knows that her (tea baggers imbeciles) listeners are not going to take the time to actually research the garbage she is spewing on her show. The next thing that really stood out to me is her insistence that border security would somehow lessen attacks like the one that took place in Boston on Monday. The only problem with that? That’s not what’s happening, undocumented immigrants are not crossing the border and blowing up buildings in the United States. The September 11 hijackers all followed the proper immigration channels and received visas. The Oklahoma City bomber was American. The D.C. snipers were American. As the wife of an immigrant, I hear nasty things all the time. I read the paper, look in the opinion section and see the utter disdain for immigrants. People like Laura Ingraham help perpetuate a fear of the scary people from the other side of our borders. People like her use tragedy as a way to spread their hateful, nasty, ant immigrant rhetoric. It really is rather pathetic but not surprising at all. Quote:Congressman Cannot Help Using Boston Marathon Bombing To Voice His Inner Racist On Tuesday, less than 24 hours after the Boston Marathon bombing that left three dead and more than 150 injured, King gave an interview to National Review Online where he used the attack to justify his opposition to immigration reform. From the interview:Quote:Representative Steve King of Iowa, a prominent House conservative, says Congress should be cautious about rushing immigration reform, especially after Monday’s bombing in Boston, where three people were killed. “Some of the speculation that has come out is that yes, it was a foreign national and, speculating here, that it was potentially a person on a student visa,” King says. “If that’s the case, then we need to take a look at the big picture.” On immigration, King says national security should be the focus now, and any talk about a path to legalization should be put on hold. “We need to be ever vigilant,” he says. “We need to go far deeper into our border crossings. . . .We need to take a look at the visa-waiver program and wonder what we’re doing. If we can’t background check people that are coming from Saudi Arabia, how do we think we are going to background check the 11 to 20 million people that are here from who knows where.” Hey, Republicans, another one of YOUR "representatives" at work! Quote:Tea Party Officially Blames Obama For Boston Marathon Bombing In the hours after yesterday’s Boston Marathon attack, the right wing was quick to blame Muslim extremists despite the lack of a single indication of the identity of those involved. Similarly there were those on the left, like me, who were just as quick to point out that a bombing on Tax Day/Patriot’s Day at a marathon dedicated to the families of the Newtown Massacre smacked of a right wing Timothy McVeigh style “protest” (aka right wing terrorism). Time will tell which of us is correct but rather than wait for the facts to surface, the Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips has decided that President Obama is clearly to blame in an email sent out on Tuesday.Quote:Unfortunately the sad truth is we will be hit again. It will happen sooner or later. It will probably be sooner than later. There are two reasons why we will be hit again. First, we have a determined enemy who hates us. Second, we have a government that is not committed to protecting America. It is a pretty safe bet right now that this attack was carried out by an Islamist. It was a well-coordinated attack. In its publication, Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula called for just this kind of attack. While the government and media have fallen all over themselves to downplay this fact, there is a twenty-year-old Saudi student being detained as a “person of interest.” Person of interest in a nice police term that is used for someone who is not under arrest and therefore does not have to be read his Miranda rights and who hopefully will not lawyer up. Barack Obama could not force himself to use the word “terrorism” in his speech last night and the FBI right now won’t call this a terrorist incident. (The rest of the screed is at http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/tea-party-nation-boston-attack-occurred-because-obama-administration-not-committed-protectin] The right, in general, has been awfully quick to jump on the Islam bashing bandwagon. Fox News and the Post has been salivating over a Saudi Arabian man that was under guard at a local hospital following the attack. Turns out that he is not a suspect, just a witness. Why the guard? Because people like Judson Phillips are whipping up fear and anger at Muslims. The most disturbing aspect of the bombing is the barely restrained glee with which the right has responded. A sore topic among conservatives is that there has been no successful terrorist attacks on American soil since Obama took office and he’s proven to be far more capable in killing terrorists and reaching foreign policy goals than the previous administration. For a political movement that obsesses over their national security bona fides and ties it disturbingly closely to their manhood, a successful terrorist act is like a soothing balm. Listening to right wing rhetoric, you’d think that nothing bad ever happened under Bush. Except for 9/11, the anthrax attacks, the bombing of the USS Cole and the several embassies and consulates that were assaulted. But FINALLY, they can blame Obama for something that actually happened! Here’s a prime example of the anti-Obama hysteria currently gripping conservatives: And here’s Patrick Dollard. Apparently he’s someone important in the right wing bubble of gibberish: The revisionist history is breathtaking. I’ll bet cold hard cash that if Dollard was forced to admit that there were several terrorist attacks under Bush, his head just might explode. All of this loud frothing serves two deeply cynical purposes: First, to get as many people on the right as riled up as possible at Obama and liberals. Without any significant Muslim threats, the cash cow that is professional Islamophobia has been a bit anemic of late. Even if it (most likely) turns out not to be a Muslim, well, darn it! It COULD have been a Muslim so you good “Christian” Americans should be afraid! Be VERY afraid. Also, you should oppose everything Obama does because he’s in league with the Muslim terrorists that may or may not have bombed Boston. And send money to the Tea Party so they can keep making you wet your diapers fighting terrorism. The second purpose of all this anti-Muslim screeching is even more disgusting: That this attack occurred on Tax Day as well as Patriot’s Day (the third Monday in April) at an event in which several of the Newtown families were running is a giant red arrow pointing, not at Muslims, but at right wing extremists steeped in Tea Party rhetoric of revolution, Second Amendment solutions and “watering the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” They know this. They also know that if this turns out to be the case, the nation’s eyes will look to them just like they did after the Oklahoma City Bombing. Back then, the silent guilt they carried was enough for them to tone down the proto-Tea Party insanity that is fully realized today. As a preemptive move, they are loudly blaming Obama and Muslims because if (when) the other shoe drops and the country finds out that, yes, Fox News and Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh and the entire conservative entertainment complex that oozes violence and eliminationist rhetoric had a hand in egging on the bomber(s), they will already have millions of conservatives ready to defend them and even refute that it wasn’t a Muslim. Keep in mind, this is the political movement that still has a large percentage of people that believe Obama is a secret Muslim, Iraq was behind 9/11 and that we found the WMDs. A year from now, they will still be absolutely convinced that Muslims attacked Boston and Obama “let it happen.” The right wing media knows its audience and they know how tight a grip they have on how that audience (mis) perceives reality. Expect to see a lot more of the kind of self-serving trash that the Tea Party Nation is selling to its easily manipulated audience in the next couple of days and weeks. They have to get in there and shape public opinion before reality rears its ugly head.
Quote:LAURA INGRAHAM: This, in my mind, raises all sorts of questions. I mean, again, we don't know who did this, motivations, all of that. But it is interesting that at this moment -- we are considering legalizing or giving regularized status to millions of people. Pretty much none of them have gone through any rigorous background checks, to have a temporary status in the United States. And we don't -- I just think that there are all sorts of security implications aside from the other arguments on immigration -- national security implications that we don't talk about with enough frankness and I think certitude here. We can't stop every attack, but my goodness, if we had borders that were shut down and we actually had a proper screening process, maybe we could stop some of them. Video at http://mediamatters.org/video/2013/04/16/laura-ingraham-uses-boston-bombing-to-stoke-fea/193640] Her absolute ignorance of how immigration laws work, amazes me. She claimed that the government is about to legalize millions of people that have not had proper background checks. Ummmm….say what? At this point in time, if an undocumented immigrant wishes to apply for status they must pass through a background check. This is a fact! My husband is an immigrant from El Salvador and when applying for Temporary Protective Status, the second thing he had to do, after filing the paperwork, was to go to the local United States Immigration and Citizenship Services Office and submit his fingerprints for a FBI background check. The FBI runs the immigrant’s fingerprints through their database and if there is anything to be found, they will find it. My husband found that out the hard way when his ten year old DUI came back to haunt him. Maybe Laura just overlooked these facts when she did the research for her show. HAHAHA don’t believe that either, do you? More than likely she figured she’d just throw that dishonesty out there because she knows that her (tea baggers imbeciles) listeners are not going to take the time to actually research the garbage she is spewing on her show. The next thing that really stood out to me is her insistence that border security would somehow lessen attacks like the one that took place in Boston on Monday. The only problem with that? That’s not what’s happening, undocumented immigrants are not crossing the border and blowing up buildings in the United States. The September 11 hijackers all followed the proper immigration channels and received visas. The Oklahoma City bomber was American. The D.C. snipers were American. As the wife of an immigrant, I hear nasty things all the time. I read the paper, look in the opinion section and see the utter disdain for immigrants. People like Laura Ingraham help perpetuate a fear of the scary people from the other side of our borders. People like her use tragedy as a way to spread their hateful, nasty, ant immigrant rhetoric. It really is rather pathetic but not surprising at all.
Quote:Congressman Cannot Help Using Boston Marathon Bombing To Voice His Inner Racist On Tuesday, less than 24 hours after the Boston Marathon bombing that left three dead and more than 150 injured, King gave an interview to National Review Online where he used the attack to justify his opposition to immigration reform. From the interview:Quote:Representative Steve King of Iowa, a prominent House conservative, says Congress should be cautious about rushing immigration reform, especially after Monday’s bombing in Boston, where three people were killed. “Some of the speculation that has come out is that yes, it was a foreign national and, speculating here, that it was potentially a person on a student visa,” King says. “If that’s the case, then we need to take a look at the big picture.” On immigration, King says national security should be the focus now, and any talk about a path to legalization should be put on hold. “We need to be ever vigilant,” he says. “We need to go far deeper into our border crossings. . . .We need to take a look at the visa-waiver program and wonder what we’re doing. If we can’t background check people that are coming from Saudi Arabia, how do we think we are going to background check the 11 to 20 million people that are here from who knows where.”
Quote:Representative Steve King of Iowa, a prominent House conservative, says Congress should be cautious about rushing immigration reform, especially after Monday’s bombing in Boston, where three people were killed. “Some of the speculation that has come out is that yes, it was a foreign national and, speculating here, that it was potentially a person on a student visa,” King says. “If that’s the case, then we need to take a look at the big picture.” On immigration, King says national security should be the focus now, and any talk about a path to legalization should be put on hold. “We need to be ever vigilant,” he says. “We need to go far deeper into our border crossings. . . .We need to take a look at the visa-waiver program and wonder what we’re doing. If we can’t background check people that are coming from Saudi Arabia, how do we think we are going to background check the 11 to 20 million people that are here from who knows where.”
Quote:Tea Party Officially Blames Obama For Boston Marathon Bombing In the hours after yesterday’s Boston Marathon attack, the right wing was quick to blame Muslim extremists despite the lack of a single indication of the identity of those involved. Similarly there were those on the left, like me, who were just as quick to point out that a bombing on Tax Day/Patriot’s Day at a marathon dedicated to the families of the Newtown Massacre smacked of a right wing Timothy McVeigh style “protest” (aka right wing terrorism). Time will tell which of us is correct but rather than wait for the facts to surface, the Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips has decided that President Obama is clearly to blame in an email sent out on Tuesday.Quote:Unfortunately the sad truth is we will be hit again. It will happen sooner or later. It will probably be sooner than later. There are two reasons why we will be hit again. First, we have a determined enemy who hates us. Second, we have a government that is not committed to protecting America. It is a pretty safe bet right now that this attack was carried out by an Islamist. It was a well-coordinated attack. In its publication, Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula called for just this kind of attack. While the government and media have fallen all over themselves to downplay this fact, there is a twenty-year-old Saudi student being detained as a “person of interest.” Person of interest in a nice police term that is used for someone who is not under arrest and therefore does not have to be read his Miranda rights and who hopefully will not lawyer up. Barack Obama could not force himself to use the word “terrorism” in his speech last night and the FBI right now won’t call this a terrorist incident. (The rest of the screed is at http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/tea-party-nation-boston-attack-occurred-because-obama-administration-not-committed-protectin] The right, in general, has been awfully quick to jump on the Islam bashing bandwagon. Fox News and the Post has been salivating over a Saudi Arabian man that was under guard at a local hospital following the attack. Turns out that he is not a suspect, just a witness. Why the guard? Because people like Judson Phillips are whipping up fear and anger at Muslims. The most disturbing aspect of the bombing is the barely restrained glee with which the right has responded. A sore topic among conservatives is that there has been no successful terrorist attacks on American soil since Obama took office and he’s proven to be far more capable in killing terrorists and reaching foreign policy goals than the previous administration. For a political movement that obsesses over their national security bona fides and ties it disturbingly closely to their manhood, a successful terrorist act is like a soothing balm. Listening to right wing rhetoric, you’d think that nothing bad ever happened under Bush. Except for 9/11, the anthrax attacks, the bombing of the USS Cole and the several embassies and consulates that were assaulted. But FINALLY, they can blame Obama for something that actually happened! Here’s a prime example of the anti-Obama hysteria currently gripping conservatives: And here’s Patrick Dollard. Apparently he’s someone important in the right wing bubble of gibberish: The revisionist history is breathtaking. I’ll bet cold hard cash that if Dollard was forced to admit that there were several terrorist attacks under Bush, his head just might explode. All of this loud frothing serves two deeply cynical purposes: First, to get as many people on the right as riled up as possible at Obama and liberals. Without any significant Muslim threats, the cash cow that is professional Islamophobia has been a bit anemic of late. Even if it (most likely) turns out not to be a Muslim, well, darn it! It COULD have been a Muslim so you good “Christian” Americans should be afraid! Be VERY afraid. Also, you should oppose everything Obama does because he’s in league with the Muslim terrorists that may or may not have bombed Boston. And send money to the Tea Party so they can keep making you wet your diapers fighting terrorism. The second purpose of all this anti-Muslim screeching is even more disgusting: That this attack occurred on Tax Day as well as Patriot’s Day (the third Monday in April) at an event in which several of the Newtown families were running is a giant red arrow pointing, not at Muslims, but at right wing extremists steeped in Tea Party rhetoric of revolution, Second Amendment solutions and “watering the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” They know this. They also know that if this turns out to be the case, the nation’s eyes will look to them just like they did after the Oklahoma City Bombing. Back then, the silent guilt they carried was enough for them to tone down the proto-Tea Party insanity that is fully realized today. As a preemptive move, they are loudly blaming Obama and Muslims because if (when) the other shoe drops and the country finds out that, yes, Fox News and Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh and the entire conservative entertainment complex that oozes violence and eliminationist rhetoric had a hand in egging on the bomber(s), they will already have millions of conservatives ready to defend them and even refute that it wasn’t a Muslim. Keep in mind, this is the political movement that still has a large percentage of people that believe Obama is a secret Muslim, Iraq was behind 9/11 and that we found the WMDs. A year from now, they will still be absolutely convinced that Muslims attacked Boston and Obama “let it happen.” The right wing media knows its audience and they know how tight a grip they have on how that audience (mis) perceives reality. Expect to see a lot more of the kind of self-serving trash that the Tea Party Nation is selling to its easily manipulated audience in the next couple of days and weeks. They have to get in there and shape public opinion before reality rears its ugly head.
Quote:Unfortunately the sad truth is we will be hit again. It will happen sooner or later. It will probably be sooner than later. There are two reasons why we will be hit again. First, we have a determined enemy who hates us. Second, we have a government that is not committed to protecting America. It is a pretty safe bet right now that this attack was carried out by an Islamist. It was a well-coordinated attack. In its publication, Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula called for just this kind of attack. While the government and media have fallen all over themselves to downplay this fact, there is a twenty-year-old Saudi student being detained as a “person of interest.” Person of interest in a nice police term that is used for someone who is not under arrest and therefore does not have to be read his Miranda rights and who hopefully will not lawyer up. Barack Obama could not force himself to use the word “terrorism” in his speech last night and the FBI right now won’t call this a terrorist incident. (The rest of the screed is at http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/tea-party-nation-boston-attack-occurred-because-obama-administration-not-committed-protectin] The right, in general, has been awfully quick to jump on the Islam bashing bandwagon. Fox News and the Post has been salivating over a Saudi Arabian man that was under guard at a local hospital following the attack. Turns out that he is not a suspect, just a witness. Why the guard? Because people like Judson Phillips are whipping up fear and anger at Muslims. The most disturbing aspect of the bombing is the barely restrained glee with which the right has responded. A sore topic among conservatives is that there has been no successful terrorist attacks on American soil since Obama took office and he’s proven to be far more capable in killing terrorists and reaching foreign policy goals than the previous administration. For a political movement that obsesses over their national security bona fides and ties it disturbingly closely to their manhood, a successful terrorist act is like a soothing balm. Listening to right wing rhetoric, you’d think that nothing bad ever happened under Bush. Except for 9/11, the anthrax attacks, the bombing of the USS Cole and the several embassies and consulates that were assaulted. But FINALLY, they can blame Obama for something that actually happened! Here’s a prime example of the anti-Obama hysteria currently gripping conservatives: And here’s Patrick Dollard. Apparently he’s someone important in the right wing bubble of gibberish: The revisionist history is breathtaking. I’ll bet cold hard cash that if Dollard was forced to admit that there were several terrorist attacks under Bush, his head just might explode. All of this loud frothing serves two deeply cynical purposes: First, to get as many people on the right as riled up as possible at Obama and liberals. Without any significant Muslim threats, the cash cow that is professional Islamophobia has been a bit anemic of late. Even if it (most likely) turns out not to be a Muslim, well, darn it! It COULD have been a Muslim so you good “Christian” Americans should be afraid! Be VERY afraid. Also, you should oppose everything Obama does because he’s in league with the Muslim terrorists that may or may not have bombed Boston. And send money to the Tea Party so they can keep making you wet your diapers fighting terrorism. The second purpose of all this anti-Muslim screeching is even more disgusting: That this attack occurred on Tax Day as well as Patriot’s Day (the third Monday in April) at an event in which several of the Newtown families were running is a giant red arrow pointing, not at Muslims, but at right wing extremists steeped in Tea Party rhetoric of revolution, Second Amendment solutions and “watering the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” They know this. They also know that if this turns out to be the case, the nation’s eyes will look to them just like they did after the Oklahoma City Bombing. Back then, the silent guilt they carried was enough for them to tone down the proto-Tea Party insanity that is fully realized today. As a preemptive move, they are loudly blaming Obama and Muslims because if (when) the other shoe drops and the country finds out that, yes, Fox News and Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh and the entire conservative entertainment complex that oozes violence and eliminationist rhetoric had a hand in egging on the bomber(s), they will already have millions of conservatives ready to defend them and even refute that it wasn’t a Muslim. Keep in mind, this is the political movement that still has a large percentage of people that believe Obama is a secret Muslim, Iraq was behind 9/11 and that we found the WMDs. A year from now, they will still be absolutely convinced that Muslims attacked Boston and Obama “let it happen.” The right wing media knows its audience and they know how tight a grip they have on how that audience (mis) perceives reality. Expect to see a lot more of the kind of self-serving trash that the Tea Party Nation is selling to its easily manipulated audience in the next couple of days and weeks. They have to get in there and shape public opinion before reality rears its ugly head.
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Meanwhile, back to the point of this thread. The Idiots are still out there doing their thing
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Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Quote:Does it bother you that you're also using the Boston attack to make a political point?
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Quote:Boston Bombing Culprits Identified Wearing Navy SEALS uniforms and hats with official creditials Photos collated on the 4chan website show numerous images of suspicious individuals wearing large backpacks present at the scene of the Boston Marathon bombings. Three of the men appear to be Arab or Middle Eastern in appearance, whereas another two of the individuals are white. The images show the men looking away from the marathon runners, talking on cellphones and running from the scene immediately after the blast. Remains of one of the backpacks are also photographed yards from where one of the bombs exploded. The FBI states that at least one of the pressure cooker devices used in the bombing was housed in a backpack. Some of these men may have merely been victims, but the image of the two men standing together wearing the same clothes and carrying heavy backpacks and wearing credentials suggests they may have been involved in a drill or in the actual attack. One of individuals, a white man whose backpack was found at the scene of the bombing, looks badly dressed and disheveled. CNN is now reporting that authorities have identified one of the suspects involved in the attack by means of “video from a department store near the site of the second explosion” and “video from a Boston television station.” The Boston Globe also reports that, “authorities have an image of a suspect carrying and possibly dropping a black bag at the second blast site on Boylston Street.” NewsCenter5 is reporting that, “An arrest is imminent or may have already taken place,” and that the individual is being taken to court. http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:13 AM
Quote:Fox pulls ‘Family Guy’ episode referring to deaths at Boston Marathon; no plans to re-air By Associated Press, Published: April 16 NEW YORK — Fox has pulled from websites a recent episode of “Family Guy” that depicts mass deaths at the Boston Marathon, and has no immediate plans to air it again. Fox spokeswoman Gaude Paez said Tuesday the episode has been removed from Fox.com and Hulu.com. In the episode, protagonist Peter Griffin is asked by sports announcer Bob Costas about his performance at the marathon. A flashback shows Peter mowing down runners with his car. “I’ll tell ya, Bob, I just got in my car and drove it,” Griffin says. “And when there was a guy in my way, I killed him.” Later, Peter befriends a terrorist who, unbeknownst to him, is plotting to blow up a bridge. When Peter dials a cellphone the friend has given him, explosions and screams are heard. On some websites, an edited clip has been circulating that fuses the two scenes, making it seem — incorrectly — as if the explosion was at the marathon. Some commenters have implied that the show “predicted” the bombings. “Family Guy” creator Seth MacFarlane took to Twitter on Tuesday to vent anger over the edited clip and offer condolences to victims of Monday’s bombings at the marathon. “The edited ‘Family Guy’ clip currently circulating is abhorrent,” MacFarlane tweeted. “The event was a crime and a tragedy, and my thoughts are with the victims.” Copyright 2013 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/fox-pulls-family-guy-episode-referring-to-deaths-at-boston-marathon-no-plans-to-re-air/2013/04/16/87620160-a6e3-11e2-9e1c-bb0fb0c2edd9_print.html
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Quote:Rush Limbaugh Jokes About Pressure Cookers As 3 Are Dead And 130+ Injured Yesterday on his show, one day after the Boston Marathon Bombing, Rush Limbaugh not only politicized the tragedy by making insidious pro-gun digs about pressure cookers, he insensitivity joked about the subject. He did this knowing the exploding pressure cookers allegedly caused the death of three people, including a child. Appearing to be a very bizarre or paid caller (*yes, they pays actors to call in), the caller stumbles:Quote:“I’m about to propose a new law that Senator Feinstein is going to propose for us to ban pressure cookers and ball bearings. Because I need protection at these marathons I run every year. “I understand only the bad people have pressure cookers, if they’re banned.” (What? I think he’s messing up his lines) Limbaugh sniffs and snorts with these questions and comments:Quote:“Are you gonna ask for a ban on pressure cookers?” “Where do you buy pressure cookers?” (Caller answers Walmart & Target) “Do the mentally ill use pressure cookers?” “My grandmother had a pressure cooker…I didn’t know she was so dangerous.” “Private sales of sales of pressure cookers… how do you stop that… How are you gonna stop that? I don’t know unless you –register them.” http://don-overton.newsvine.com/_news/2013/04/17/17796320-rush-limbaugh-jokes-about-pressure-cookers-as-3-are-dead-and-130-injured-video-addicting-info] But hey, I'M using the bombings to "politicize"...something...? Stupidity, maybe? Complete lack of common sense? Complete lack of decency? I dunno, what am I politicizing, exactly? I THOUGHT I was pointing out that there are incredibly idiotic people among us who will use anything in the news to show what assholes they are...kind of like, you know, PN... * And yes, by the way, they DO pay callers to call in:Quote:One of the common refrains in the media world is that Rush Limbaugh has the largest audience in talk radio. He is eager to capitalize on this, multiple times per episode in fact. But how true is this claim? Limbaugh is one of several radio hosts syndicated through Premiere Radio Networks, including right-wing darlings such as Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck as well as known liberal voices such as Randi Rhodes and the Reverend Jesse Jackson. One of the features for Premiere syndicated shows is a service Premiere On Call, a phone banking service for voice talent. What this means is, they hire people to call in. If you ever listened to one of the shows distributed by Premiere, you may find yourself impressed at how a caller would bring up a subject which then the host would have a perfect response to, like a perfect pitch in a baseball game to allow the home run hit. Premiere On Call’s hiring standards appear to be focused on hiring people able to generate accents, vocal inflections, or other ways to enable re-use of the same voice actor multiple times without being identified as such. Limbaugh obtained the largest audience during an era when audience count was made by manually filled out diaries, a practice which has been slowly phased out over the past few years, as detailed electronic tracking became available. Once the detailed tracking was available, Rush’s ratings dropped significantly, by over a third. With an estimated weekly audience of 15 million users now, that comes to an average of less than 3,000 listeners per station, not very good ratings at all. For comparison, left-wing giant Ed Schultz on Jones Radio Network sports an estimated 8,000 listeners per station. To get these numbers, we took the totals given from Talkers Magazine and cross-referenced with the number of stations that carry each show. Rush is carried on over 10x as many stations as Big Eddie. Even though Rush’s overall listenership is high, the number per station is low. Rush’s claims for greatness comes from his large audience, but the large audience is diluted over the sheer number of stations which carry him resulting in actually very little per-station participation. This means lower revenue for the stations themselves, and is very possibly the reason for the mass exodus of advertisers on his show. He gained these stations originally due to an arrangement system whereby these stations were given his show, for free, in exchange for 15 minutes of advertising space. It was a win-win for these small stations, effectively adding filler to the stations airwaves in a non-prime spot. With the more accurate ratings coming out showing that Limbaugh is only getting 15 million listeners per week, and not the millions more he once proclaimed were his, and the realization that his show is only carried on stations due to the fact that it is free, one has to wonder how big his ratings really are. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/11/limbaugh/ Which is in NO WAY to applaud Ed Schulz, whom I dislike and believe is only slightly less offensive than Limbaugh. But the facts might make you wonder about just how popular Limbaugh IS in reality...
Quote:“I’m about to propose a new law that Senator Feinstein is going to propose for us to ban pressure cookers and ball bearings. Because I need protection at these marathons I run every year. “I understand only the bad people have pressure cookers, if they’re banned.”
Quote:“Are you gonna ask for a ban on pressure cookers?” “Where do you buy pressure cookers?” (Caller answers Walmart & Target) “Do the mentally ill use pressure cookers?” “My grandmother had a pressure cooker…I didn’t know she was so dangerous.” “Private sales of sales of pressure cookers… how do you stop that… How are you gonna stop that? I don’t know unless you –register them.”
Quote:One of the common refrains in the media world is that Rush Limbaugh has the largest audience in talk radio. He is eager to capitalize on this, multiple times per episode in fact. But how true is this claim? Limbaugh is one of several radio hosts syndicated through Premiere Radio Networks, including right-wing darlings such as Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck as well as known liberal voices such as Randi Rhodes and the Reverend Jesse Jackson. One of the features for Premiere syndicated shows is a service Premiere On Call, a phone banking service for voice talent. What this means is, they hire people to call in. If you ever listened to one of the shows distributed by Premiere, you may find yourself impressed at how a caller would bring up a subject which then the host would have a perfect response to, like a perfect pitch in a baseball game to allow the home run hit. Premiere On Call’s hiring standards appear to be focused on hiring people able to generate accents, vocal inflections, or other ways to enable re-use of the same voice actor multiple times without being identified as such. Limbaugh obtained the largest audience during an era when audience count was made by manually filled out diaries, a practice which has been slowly phased out over the past few years, as detailed electronic tracking became available. Once the detailed tracking was available, Rush’s ratings dropped significantly, by over a third. With an estimated weekly audience of 15 million users now, that comes to an average of less than 3,000 listeners per station, not very good ratings at all. For comparison, left-wing giant Ed Schultz on Jones Radio Network sports an estimated 8,000 listeners per station. To get these numbers, we took the totals given from Talkers Magazine and cross-referenced with the number of stations that carry each show. Rush is carried on over 10x as many stations as Big Eddie. Even though Rush’s overall listenership is high, the number per station is low. Rush’s claims for greatness comes from his large audience, but the large audience is diluted over the sheer number of stations which carry him resulting in actually very little per-station participation. This means lower revenue for the stations themselves, and is very possibly the reason for the mass exodus of advertisers on his show. He gained these stations originally due to an arrangement system whereby these stations were given his show, for free, in exchange for 15 minutes of advertising space. It was a win-win for these small stations, effectively adding filler to the stations airwaves in a non-prime spot. With the more accurate ratings coming out showing that Limbaugh is only getting 15 million listeners per week, and not the millions more he once proclaimed were his, and the realization that his show is only carried on stations due to the fact that it is free, one has to wonder how big his ratings really are. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/11/limbaugh/
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 6:09 PM
Quote:Boston Runners Were Warned: ‘You’re Going to Die’ One of the participants in the Boston Marathon says runners were warned they were “going to die” by a woman in downtown Boston two days before the twin bombings which killed three and injured more than 140 people. “Mike Heiliger, 59, said a woman holding several bags was telling runners who were picking up their pre-race packages in downtown Boston on Saturday (April 13) that they were going to die if they participated in the event,” reports the SquamishChief.com. “It was a little creepy because you can identify who the runners are and I heard her say to this runner two feet away from me that, ‘If you run tomorrow you’re going to die,’” said Heiliger, adding that the woman was holding two bags as if she had just got off a plane. Heiliger called police to report the incident after the bombings took place. Authorities in Boston have denied that there was any intelligence beforehand which warned of an attack, despite eyewitness Ali Stevenson insisting that police “must have known” about the bombing based on their behavior throughout the race. According to Stevenson, a University of Mobile Cross Country Coach, runners were told not to be alarmed on the morning of the race as police conducted an “exercise” involving bomb sniffing dogs and positioned spotters on rooftops. “Evidently, I don’t believe they were just having a training exercise, they must have known,” Stevenson told Local15 News. “They must have had some sort of threat or suspicion called in.” However, during a press conference, Boston police told Infowars reporter Dan Bidondi that there was “no specific intelligence” regarding an attack and that no drills took place besides the usual precautions taken for a big event. When Bidondi again attempted to ask police about why people were being told to remain calm before the bombs exploded, there was no response. http://www.squamishchief.com/article/20130415/SQUAMISH0101/130419985/-1/squamish/boston-runners-were-warned-squamish-man
Wednesday, April 17, 2013 6:49 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
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Quote:Israeli police head to US to aid in Boston Marathon bombing investigation The investigation into Monday’s deadly bombing at the Boston Marathon has officially gone international: law enforcement officials from Israel have been sent to the United States to assist in the probe. Israel Police Chief Yohanan Danino says he has dispatched officials to Boston, Massachusetts, where they will meet with Federal Bureau of Investigation agents and other authorities, the Times of Israel Reports. Citing an earlier report published by the newspaper Maariv, Times of Israel writes that Danino has dispatched police officers to participate in discussions that “will center on the Boston Marathon bombings and deepening professional cooperation between the law enforcement agencies of both countries.” The paper reports that Israeli law enforcement planned the trip before the deadly pair of bombings on Monday that has so far claimed three lives, but the discussions will now shift focus in order to see how help from abroad can expand the investigation. In an address made Tuesday, Israel President Shimon Peres said that tragedies such as this week’s incident in Boston, sadly, bring people together from across the world. “When it comes to events like this, all of us are one family. We feel a part of the people who paid such a high price. God bless them,” Peres said. “Today the real problem is terror, and terror is not an extension of policy: Their policy is terror, their policy is to threaten. Terrorists divide people, they kill innocent people.” Around 20 hours after two bombs detonated near the finish line of the annual race, United States President Barack Obama went on record to condemn the tragedy as a terrorist attack. “This was a heinous and cowardly act,” said Obama from the White House, “and given what we now know the FBI is investigating it as an act of terrorism.” But even as officials come to assist from as far away as Israel, authorities are still in the dark as far as finding any leads in the case. Pres. Obama has directed the FBI and US Department of Homeland Security to assist in the investigation, but no agencies have identified suspects or motives at this time. Pres. Obama has also said that his administration has been directed to implement “appropriate security measures to protect the American people,” but details as to what that could mean remain scarce. Meanwhile, at least one leading lawmaker is asking for the US to respond to the terrorist attack by increasing the scope of the ever-expanding surveillance program already growing across the United States. “I do think we need more cameras,” Rep. Peter King (R-New York) told MSNBC after Monday’s attacks.“We have to stay ahead of the terrorists and I do know in New York, the Manhattan Security Initiative, which is based on cameras, the outstanding work that results from that. So yes, I do favor more cameras. They’re a great law enforcement device. And again, it keeps us ahead of the terrorists, who are constantly trying to kill us.” New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has also confirmed that he has dispatched law enforcement officers from the Big Apple to assist in the investigation by meeting with agents at a Boston fusion center, one of the DHS-funded data facilities that collects surveillance camera footage and other evidence in order to analyze events like Monday’s attack. “We are certainly engaged in the information flow with the FBI through our Joint Terrorism Task Force. We have two New York City police officers, police sergeants, who are in the Boston Regional Intelligence Center,” Bloomberg said on Tuesday. “They’re up there, they’ve been up there since last evening.” But in a study conducted last year by the Senate’s bipartisan Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, lawmakers found that those fusion centers have been more or less unhelpful in assisting with terrorism probes. The Department of Homeland Security’s work with state and local fusion centers, the subcommittee wrote, “has not produced useful intelligence to support federal counterterrorism efforts.” Instead, they added, so-called “intelligence” shared between facilities consisted of tidbits of shoddy quality that was often outdated and “sometimes endangering [to] citizen‘s civil liberties and Privacy Act protections.” “More often than not,” the panel added, information collected and shared at DHS fusion centers was“unrelated to terrorism.” http://rt.com/usa/police-israel-investigation-boston-009/
Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:20 AM
Quote:Jon Stewart Tears Apart CNN For ‘Completely F*cking Wrong’ Boston Reporting: ‘Human Centipede Of News’ Jon Stewart let CNN have it over its erroneous reporting that an arrest had been made in the case of the Boston Marathon bombing. Stewart mocked how much CNN kept boasting of its “exclusive reporting,” which turned ot to be exclusive “because it was completely fucking wrong,” and was even more blown away by how CNN was subsequently backing away from and questioning that very report. Stewart described this as the network “shit[ting] in their own mouths,” christening CNN “the Human Centipede of News.” Stewart played a variety of clips in which Wolf Blitzer touted the network’s “exclusive reporting” on the arrest. Stewart said, “It’s exclusive because it was completely fucking wrong!” He also got in a veiled swipe at new CNN head Jeff Zucker for claiming Stewart to be a jealous competitor. Stewart asked, “Did any of your sources end their tip-offs to you with the phrase ‘Ba ba booey?’” And when CNN just dropped the story altogether, Stewart called it a “news story as imagined by M. Night Shyamalan.” But perhaps the best part for Stewart was the hour-long gap between the initial breaking news and the eventual confirmed walk-back in which CNN anchors attempted to clarify and walk back the report of the arrest. Stewart viewed this as CNN removing the middle-man and realizing they can “shit in their own mouths.” Or, as Stewart more colorfully put it, “the Human Centipede of news.” Stewart then brought on correspondent John Oliver who, with the help of Jessica Williams, narrowed the identity of the bombing suspect down to either a “dark-skinned male, possible white, or maybe a woman,” “a fat Hispanic baby,” or “a dog on its hind legs wearing glasses and a hat.”
Quote:Colbert Rips Cable News For ‘Breakthrough’ In Reporting Everything ‘We Don’t Know’ About Boston Bombing When it came to informing the public about developments in the Boston Marathon bombing investigation, yesterday wasn’t a great day for cable news (save for MSNBC, which had a more cautious Pete Williams reporting on the story). CNN in particular has seen the brunt of the criticism (that Obamacare verdict didn’t help), with Jon Stewart deeming the network the “human centipede of news.” His Comedy Central colleague Stephen Colbert, too, chimed in last night. Colbert began with a different story, discussing the ricin letters sent to Sen. Roger Wicker and President Obama. Starting with being unaware of Sen. Wicker’s existence, Colbert detailed the many things yet unknown about the case. “Roger Wicker does not sound plausible as a senator,” Colbert quipped, noting it “sounds more like a patio furniture store.” Similarly, in Boston, 48 hours after the marathon bombings, “there has been a major breakthrough in the reporting of all the other things we don’t know.” With that, he cued up a montage of cable news clips offering contradictions amid their reporting and many instances of the phrase, “We don’t know…” “So, no arrest,” Colbert remarked, “but at least we have not wasted any precious time not being suspicious of dark-skinned males.”
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