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My First Rifle: The business of selling guns for kids
Friday, May 3, 2013 10:01 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:The shooting of a two-year-old girl by her five-year-old brother has put a spotlight on smaller guns designed for children. The gun used in the recent shooting in Kentucky was a Crickett .22-caliber rifle, marketed with the slogan "My First Rifle," from Keystone Sporting Arms in Milton, Pa. The single-shot rifle uses the smallest caliber available and is sold by major retailers, including Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500), Cabela's (CAB) and Gander Mountain. The Crickett website was down Friday due to "difficulties," according to John Renzulli, an attorney representing Keystone . But the site for Chipmunk, another Keystone brand, exhibited "quality firearms for America's youth" on its site, including .22-caliber rifles and pistols, with photos of children shooting them. The site includes a "kids corner" section. Renzulli insisted that the company is not marketing firearms to children. "No one's marketing to children," he said. "They're marketing to parents who would buy guns for children." On its website, Wal-Mart markets the Crickett as a "youth rifle," while Gander Mountain's site describes it as a "great beginner's gun." "All are lightweight and easy for youngsters to carry at the range and in the woods," reads the Crickett description on Cabela's site, which describes it as "a fun firearm to get your young shooter started with." Wal-Mart did not immediately comment on whether their policy on sales of guns for children would change. Gander Mountain said it would not comment on potential policy changes, but added that it has launched a responsibility campaign aimed at keeping firearms away from "the underaged, untrained and unauthorized." Cabela's did not return a request for comment. Lawrence Keane, vice president and spokesman for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the firearms industry group, described the youth firearm market as a relatively small slice of the gun industry, though large enough to have plenty of participants. http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/03/news/companies/guns-children/index.html?hpt=hp_t2] No comment.
Friday, May 3, 2013 12:16 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Friday, May 3, 2013 3:33 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Friday, May 3, 2013 4:28 PM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Welcome to the GOP, where 15 is far too young for Plan B, but 5 is just the right age for a gun.
Saturday, May 4, 2013 12:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Welcome to the GOP, where 15 is far too young for Plan B, but 5 is just the right age for a gun. Well, hey, if ya can't prevent 'em with birth control or abortions, maybe you can shoot 'em down on the street. And if that doesn't work, maybe you can convict 'em of a crime and give 'em the Death Penalty. But, ya see, getting rid of the undesired shouldn't be a PRIVATE matter, it should provide activity or entertainment for the rest of the population, the "good guys".
Saturday, May 4, 2013 7:12 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Exactly, and what a woman does with her body shouldn't be a private matter between her and her doctor, but all gun sales SHOULD be private matters with no background checks or records kept. It's the world filtered through GOP logic.
Saturday, May 4, 2013 1:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Exactly, and what a woman does with her body shouldn't be a private matter between her and her doctor, but all gun sales SHOULD be private matters with no background checks or records kept. It's the world filtered through GOP logic. Honestly, Kwick.... Both should be a private matter. Since neither are...... There's enough background checks done that it could be fair. If you've been convicted of a violent felony charge, you shouldn't have access to weapons.
Quote: If you've killed your baby because you're a negligent nymphomaniac who doesn't want kids, you should have your tubes tied.
Saturday, May 4, 2013 4:40 PM
REAVERFAN
Quote:If you've killed your baby because you're a negligent nymphomaniac who doesn't want kids, you should have your tubes tied.
Sunday, May 5, 2013 2:47 AM
Sunday, May 5, 2013 3:33 AM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:10 AM
Sunday, May 5, 2013 8:47 AM
Quote: Guns still kill twice as many children and young people as cancer, five times as many than heart disease and 15 times more than infection, according to the New England Journal of Medicine ( http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1215606 )."
Sunday, May 5, 2013 9:13 AM
Sunday, May 5, 2013 6:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote: If you've killed your baby because you're a negligent nymphomaniac who doesn't want kids, you should have your tubes tied. And if you're the father of said baby, do they cut off your cock and balls, since you clearly cannot make good decisions about who to fuck?
Sunday, May 5, 2013 6:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:If you've killed your baby because you're a negligent nymphomaniac who doesn't want kids, you should have your tubes tied.Your festering hatred for women is noted.
Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote: If you've killed your baby because you're a negligent nymphomaniac who doesn't want kids, you should have your tubes tied. And if you're the father of said baby, do they cut off your cock and balls, since you clearly cannot make good decisions about who to fuck? Wow dude... I wasn't saying they should take a power drill and destroy all the feminine parts.... Why do you jump right to cutting off cocks and balls? There are plenty of easy ways of tying tubes on either side. Relax killer......
Monday, May 6, 2013 2:36 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: If you missed it in the other thread, as of 2010: Quote: Guns still kill twice as many children and young people as cancer, five times as many than heart disease and 15 times more than infection, according to the New England Journal of Medicine ( http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1215606 )." You can't download the chart unless you're a subscriber, so I copied it manually (the original is available at the link). Think about it:
Quote:Reminder: I DO NOT WANT TO TAKE AWAY ANYONE'S GUNS, remember? I argue for SOME logical restrictions to the number of guns out there and who is allowed to have them. And I certainly argue against children having guns of ANY kind, much less guns hidden in their bedrooms!
Monday, May 6, 2013 3:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: So it's not elementary school kids that are being shot.
Monday, May 6, 2013 4:58 AM
Quote:If you look at the under-15 group, firearms deaths, accidental or homicide, are way down on the list.
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