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Hip-Hop Artist Lauryn Hill Blames Slavery for Tax Evasion

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Monday, May 13, 2013 9:48 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Monday, May 13, 2013 10:15 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


She should be thanking slavery for her success.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Monday, May 13, 2013 10:35 AM

JONGSSTRAW


I know you can't mean that.

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Monday, May 13, 2013 10:40 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Here's the letter in full. I see no mention of slavery. Once again the rightards have failed with their acceptance of non-facts.

“For the past several years, I have remained what others would consider underground. I did this in order to build a community of people, like-minded in their desire for freedom and the right to pursue their goals and lives without being manipulated and controlled by a media protected military industrial complex with a completely different agenda. Having put the lives and needs of other people before my own for multiple years, and having made hundreds of millions of dollars for certain institutions, under complex and sometimes severe circumstances, I began to require growth and more equitable treatment, but was met with resistance. I entered into my craft full of optimism (which I still possess), but immediately saw the suppressive force with which the system attempts to maintain it’s control over a given paradigm. I’ve seen people promote addiction, use sabotage, black listing, media bullying and any other coercion technique they could, to prevent artists from knowing their true value, or exercising their full power. These devices of control, no matter how well intentioned (or not), can have a devastating outcome on the lives of people, especially creative types who must grow and exist within a certain environment and according to a certain pace, in order to live and create optimally.

I kept my life relatively simple, even after huge successes, but it became increasingly obvious that certain indulgences and privileges were expected to come at the expense of my free soul, free mind, and therefore my health and integrity. So I left a more mainstream and public life, in order to wean both myself, and my family, away from a lifestyle that required distortion and compromise as a means for maintaining it. During this critical healing time, there were very few people accessible to me who had not already been seduced or affected by this machine, and therefore who could be trusted to not try and influence or coerce me back into a dynamic of compromise. Individual growth was expected to take place unnaturally, or stagnated outright, subject to marketing and politics. Addressing critical issues like pop culture cannibalism or its manipulation of the young at the expense of everything, was frowned upon and discouraged by limiting funding, or denying it outright. When one has a prolific creative output like I did/do, and is then forced to stop, the effects can be dangerous both emotionally and psychologically, both for the artist and those in need of that resource. It was critically important that I find a suitable pathway within which to exist, without being distorted or economically strong-armed.

During this period of crisis, much was said about me, both slanted and inaccurate, by those who had become dependent on my creative force, yet unwilling to fully acknowledge the importance of my contribution, nor compensate me equitably for it. This was done in an effort to smear my public image, in order to directly affect my ability to earn independently of this system. It took a long time to locate and nurture a community of people strong enough to resist the incredibly unhealthy tide, and more importantly see through it. If I had not been able to make contact with, and establish this community, my life, safety and freedom, would have been directly affected as well as the lives, safety and freedom of my family. Failure to create a non toxic, non exploitative environment was not an option.

As my potential to work, and therefore earn freely, was being threatened, I did whatever needed to be done in order to insulate my family from the climate of hostility, false entitlement, manipulation, racial prejudice, sexism and ageism that I was surrounded by. This was absolutely critical while trying to find and establish a new and very necessary community of healthy people, and also heal and detoxify myself and my family while raising my young children.

There were no exotic trips, no fleet of cars, just an all out war for safety, integrity, wholeness and health, without mistreatment denial, and/or exploitation. In order to liberate myself from those who found it ok to oppose my wholeness, free speech and integral growth by inflicting different forms of punitive action against it, I used my resources to sustain our safety and survival until I was able to restore my ability to earn outside of it!

When artists experience danger and crisis under the effects of this kind of insidious manipulation, everyone easily accepts that there was something either dysfunctional or defective with the artist, rather than look at, and fully examine, the system and its means and policies of exploiting/’doing business’. Not only is this unrealistic, it is very dark in its motivation, conveniently targeting the object of their hero worship by removing any evidence that they ‘needed’ or celebrated this very same resource just years, months or moments before. Since those who believe they need a hero/celebrity outnumber the actual heroes/celebrities, people feel safe and comfortably justified in numbers, committing egregious crimes in the name of the greater social ego. Ironically diminishing their own true hero-celebrity nature in the process.

It was this schism and the hypocrisy, violence and social cannibalism it enabled, that I wanted and needed to be freed from, not from art or music, but the suppression/repression and reduction of that art and music to a bottom line alone, without regard for anything else. Over-commercialization and its resulting restrictions and limitations can be very damaging and distorting to the inherent nature of the individual. I Love making art, I Love making music, these are as natural and necessary for me almost as breathing or talking. To be denied the right to pursue it according to my ability, as well as be properly acknowledged and compensated for it, in an attempt to control, is manipulation directed at my most basic rights! These forms of expression, along with others, effectively comprise my free speech! Defending, preserving, and protecting these rights are critically important, especially in a paradigm where veiled racism, sexism, ageism, nepotism, and deliberate economic control are still blatant realities!!!

Learning from the past, insulating friends and family from the influence of external manipulation and corruption, is far more important to me than being misunderstood for a season! I did not deliberately abandon my fans, nor did I deliberately abandon any responsibilities, but I did however put my safety, health and freedom and the freedom, safety and health of my family first over all other material concerns! I also embraced my right to resist a system intentionally opposing my right to whole and integral survival.

I conveyed all of this when questioned as to why I did not file taxes during this time period. Obviously, the danger I faced was not accepted as reasonable grounds for deferring my tax payments, as authorities, who despite being told all of this, still chose to pursue action against me, as opposed to finding an alternative solution.

My intention has always been to get this situation rectified. When I was working consistently without being affected by the interferences mentioned above, I filed and paid my taxes. This only stopped when it was necessary to withdraw from society, in order to guarantee the safety and well-being of myself and my family.

As this, and other areas of issue are resolved and set straight, I am able to get back to doing what I should be doing, the way it should be done. This is part of that process. To those supporters who were told that I abandoned them, that is untrue. I abandoned greed, corruption, and compromise, never you, and never the artistic gifts and abilities that sustained me.”

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Monday, May 13, 2013 10:51 AM

HERO


I think she's got some legitimate beef with her industry. There is a lot of exploitation, but calling it slavery merely shows that she has no idea what slavery is.

Its like someone being the victim of a scam and wanting the person charged with murder. Two different crimes.

Never the less just because she's using the wrong word does not mean she's not been victimized. Also, being victimized by your industry does not justify passing your tax burdens on to all of your neighbors. You want some justice, fine, hire a lawyer and sue...don't refuse to pay your taxes.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Monday, May 13, 2013 11:07 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Hill's court statement to the judge... “I am a child of former slaves who had a system imposed on them. I had an economic system imposed on me.” She said she planned to pay her taxes in due time, but was told citizens do not get to decide when to write a check to the IRS.

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Monday, May 13, 2013 11:17 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


cite? court records or some such wll do

Also note, saying you're the offspring of slaves - which nearly all African-Americans can truthfully state (with rare exception) - isn't the same as 'blaming' slavery. Please find me that quote where she SPECIFICALLY 'BLAMES' slavery. Thanks.

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Monday, May 13, 2013 11:18 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Hill's court statement to the judge... “I am a child of former slaves who had a system imposed on them. I had an economic system imposed on me.” She said she planned to pay her taxes in due time, but was told citizens do not get to decide when to write a check to the IRS.



In strictest fact, any citizen can notify the IRS that they acknowledge their tax debt, but are unable to pay it currently. The IRS has always been co-operative with me when I've been in that situation. They used to charge 1/2 percent per month interest on the unpaid balance, but money at 6 % is free compared to 24 % credit card interest. Not exactly sure what the IRS would do if I just said I wasn't going to pay up.

But that's what she's got business managers, agents, and lawyers for.

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Monday, May 13, 2013 11:23 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Hill's court statement to the judge... “I am a child of former slaves who had a system imposed on them. I had an economic system imposed on me.” She said she planned to pay her taxes in due time, but was told citizens do not get to decide when to write a check to the IRS.

As I said...Show some gratitude, honey. Her manifesto reads like some nut wrote it.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:19 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



cite? court records or some such wll do

Also note, saying you're the offspring of slaves - which nearly all African-Americans can truthfully state (with rare exception) - isn't the same as 'blaming' slavery. Please find me that quote where she SPECIFICALLY 'BLAMES' slavery. Thanks.

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Thursday, November 21, 2024 9:52 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Did anyone find her music extremely boring?

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Thursday, November 21, 2024 4:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Did anyone find her music extremely boring?



I was never a super fan or anything. I can only name two of her songs that weren't on Sister Act. In honesty, one of them is on my playlist of about 1,200 songs. She had one hell of a voice.

Here's the part where I was going to say I don't give a shit about either of their personal lives since they said back in the 90's they didn't want white people buying their albums, but unless I were to find a video or audio where Hill specifically said that, the internet is telling me that was an urban legend. I guess Hill herself has many times come out and said that she never said anything like that, and it was a rumor that was started when a random caller on the Howard Stern show said that she said it in a Fugees interview on MTV. To this date apparently, no video/audio evidence has ever been provided to prove it. (This was right around the time that Oasis said they didn't want any Americans buying their albums too, and the Gallagher brothers aren't shy about admitting they did say that... and I have 3 of their songs on my playlist).


That being said, I'd never go out and buy a Lauren Hill album or go to a concert myself. Not just to hear the two songs I know and the one song I like. According to her own words, her music isn't made for me. She writes most of it for young black women.

And even the one I like would probably fall in that category too.


But ain't that the beauty of art? Don't matter who it was "made for". If it's really good, it can be enjoyed by everyone.


To put it another way, I just never really understood why Hollywood has this constant need to race swap and sex swap everything, as if the only way you can enjoy the movie is if you see yourself up there on screen.

Not when this is my favorite Lauren Hill song and I still hear it fairly regularly of my own volition more than 30 years after it came out.




And if you can't stomach it since I know you aren't a fan of most modern black music, here's what Quora's AI says about the meaning...

Quote:

"Killing Me Softly" is a song that explores themes of vulnerability, emotional connection, and the power of music to evoke deep feelings. The lyrics describe a person who feels as though a singer is telling their own life story through the song, capturing their emotions and experiences with remarkable accuracy. This creates a sense of intimacy and resonance, as if the singer understands their innermost thoughts and feelings.

The song highlights the impact of storytelling in music and how it can touch listeners in profound ways, making them feel seen and understood. It also reflects on the bittersweet nature of that experience, as it can evoke both joy and pain. Overall, "Killing Me Softly" encapsulates the emotional journey of being deeply moved by art.



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