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The core issue here has nothing to do with a judge. It has to do with the EEOC suing and taking a private business to court over a decision it made to fire employess who refused to do the job they were hired for.

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Democrat Obama's picks, Democrat Senate's approvals......

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So do you think catholic medical practitioners should be forced to give out morning after pills? Or does your outrage only extend to Muslims?

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19190916/ns/health-womens_health/t/doctors-b
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Which Party controls the Senate? Is the Senate Majority Leader a Democrat or a Republican?

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So do you think catholic medical practitioners should be forced to give out morning after pills? Or does your outrage only extend to Muslims?

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19190916/ns/health-womens_health/t/doctors-b
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Should Orthodox Jewish drivers be protected if they require their shifts to end before sundown on Friday night, so they can participate in their Sabbath? Or a fundamentalist Baptist if he refused to deliver dance records, or to dance clubs, because his denomination forbids dancing?

Or is it, as Mags suggests, only if the EEOC sticks up for a minority? Bearing in mind that a member of a majority group doesn't require sticking up for?

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So are you implying that Obama has stacked the Commission with judges who have a secret agenda to implement sharia law?

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Which Party controls the Senate? Is the Senate Majority Leader a Democrat or a Republican?

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Is every Senate vote simply a majority rules proposition? Yes or no, please.

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The facts as known of this story have been presented, and I've given you the courtesy of answering your questions, even though my questions were ignored. If you want to speculate on hypothetical scenarios I suggest you research them yourself or start another thread.

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The facts as known of this story have been presented, and I've given you the courtesy of answering your questions, even though my questions were ignored. If you want to speculate on hypothetical scenarios I suggest you research them yourself or start another thread.

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Is he *really* an "Arab Federal" judge?

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So what has this got to do with Obama then?

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So do you think catholic medical practitioners should be forced to give out morning after pills? Or does your outrage only extend to Muslims?

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Then why did you (through your quoted article) feel it necessary to try to paint the judge as some kind of Muslim activist legislating from the bench? Your article, which YOU went out of your way to quote at length, describes the man as "the only Arab Federal judge in Illinois." It goes on to omit any mention of the man's birthplace, heritage, or background (his father was a sheriff, not a Sharif, and a state legislator, not a Sheikh).

Also, the author goes out of his way to claim that "[e]very Muslim corner store I have ever seen sells alcohol, alongside smuggled cigarettes and lottery tickets."

I wonder how he knows every Muslim corner store he's ever seen sells "smuggled cigarettes". It seems a pretty baseless accusation to make - one based entirely in xenophobia and stereotyping.

Or is it that my question bothered you because it poked at your (and the article's author's) prejudices about people with Middle-Eastern-sounding names? What do you actually know about the judge in question, seeing as you're so willing to taint him with the dreaded "Arab" moniker?

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Should Orthodox Jewish drivers be protected if they require their shifts to end before sundown on Friday night, so they can participate in their Sabbath? Or a fundamentalist Baptist if he refused to deliver dance records, or to dance clubs, because his denomination forbids dancing?

Or is it, as Mags suggests, only if the EEOC sticks up for a minority? Bearing in mind that a member of a majority group doesn't require sticking up for?

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Is every Senate vote simply a majority rules proposition? Yes or no, please.

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So are you implying that Obama has stacked the Commission with judges who have a secret agenda to implement sharia law?

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Similarly, should pharmacists who refuse to fill prescriptions for birth control on religious grounds be fired?

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The facts as known of this story have been presented, and I've given you the courtesy of answering your questions, even though my questions were ignored. If you want to speculate on hypothetical scenarios I suggest you research them yourself or start another thread.

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The facts as known of this story have been presented, and I've given you the courtesy of answering your questions, even though my questions were ignored. If you want to speculate on hypothetical scenarios I suggest you research them yourself or start another thread.

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Well I simply don't understand how this is somehow Obama's fault. I can see how you might disagree with the ruling. I have issue with people being employed and not doing their jobs for religious reasons, I think you need to find a job that fits in with your practise, or clear it with the employers first ie

Nurse unable to hand out contraception makes that clear or chooses another role when unable to comply.

But I don't see wht this particularly ruling is the responsibility of Obama or Obama Inc whatever that may be, so you'll either have to provide more evidence than he appointed the judge - because last time I checked, judges don't run their decisions by the president.

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The facts as known of this story have been presented, and I've given you the courtesy of answering your questions, even though my questions were ignored. If you want to speculate on hypothetical scenarios I suggest you research them yourself or start another thread.

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Can you show me where exactly you've "given... the courtesy of answering" any of these questions?

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Is he *really* an "Arab Federal" judge?

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So what has this got to do with Obama then?

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So do you think catholic medical practitioners should be forced to give out morning after pills? Or does your outrage only extend to Muslims?

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Then why did you (through your quoted article) feel it necessary to try to paint the judge as some kind of Muslim activist legislating from the bench? Your article, which YOU went out of your way to quote at length, describes the man as "the only Arab Federal judge in Illinois." It goes on to omit any mention of the man's birthplace, heritage, or background (his father was a sheriff, not a Sharif, and a state legislator, not a Sheikh).

Also, the author goes out of his way to claim that "[e]very Muslim corner store I have ever seen sells alcohol, alongside smuggled cigarettes and lottery tickets."

I wonder how he knows every Muslim corner store he's ever seen sells "smuggled cigarettes". It seems a pretty baseless accusation to make - one based entirely in xenophobia and stereotyping.

Or is it that my question bothered you because it poked at your (and the article's author's) prejudices about people with Middle-Eastern-sounding names? What do you actually know about the judge in question, seeing as you're so willing to taint him with the dreaded "Arab" moniker?

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Should Orthodox Jewish drivers be protected if they require their shifts to end before sundown on Friday night, so they can participate in their Sabbath? Or a fundamentalist Baptist if he refused to deliver dance records, or to dance clubs, because his denomination forbids dancing?

Or is it, as Mags suggests, only if the EEOC sticks up for a minority? Bearing in mind that a member of a majority group doesn't require sticking up for?

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Is every Senate vote simply a majority rules proposition? Yes or no, please.

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So are you implying that Obama has stacked the Commission with judges who have a secret agenda to implement sharia law?

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Similarly, should pharmacists who refuse to fill prescriptions for birth control on religious grounds be fired?

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Still can't answer the questions, eh Jongsie?


Nice try at burying this thread beneath an avalanche of bullshit. Makes me wonder what you're afraid of, though.







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