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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, the same thing happened in Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Every place we "intervened" in is going over to muslim funamentalists.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

Oh yeah, liberals support violence by extremist nutcases.

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Yeah. Must be the U.S.'s fault.

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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO YOU FORGOT YOUR LINES --------- AGAIN!!!!!! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SAY IT'S OBAMA'S FAULT!!!! YOU'VE GOT ONE STUPID LINE AND YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THAT RIGHT !!!!

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Which Muslim jihadist terror groups do you sympathize with? Signy likes Hamas, PLO, and Hezbollah because they mostly kill Jews in Israel. No one likes dead Jews more than Signy. Just ask her.

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The footage, said to show Father Francois Murad, 49, as the victim in a brutal summary execution by foreign jihadists is likely to be an older video that bares no relation to the death of the Catholic priest.

Father Murad "died when he was shot inside his church" in the northern Syrian Christian village of Ghassaniyeh on June 23, three separate local sources told the Telegraph, who did not wish to be named.

Claims that Father Murad was one of two men to be decapitated by a foreign jihadist group went viral, the outrage expressed in blogs and articles worldwide.

The footage posted on YouTube shows three men kneeling on the ground surrounded by a group of foreign jihadists, now thought to be a group of Chechen rebels. The crowd whips itself into frenzy and screaming "God is great" some of the rebels slaughter two of the prisoners.

The film is too grainy to be able to confirm the identity of either of the victims as Father Francois. While the video's title refers to the killing of a priest and a bishop, none of the participants in the actual video refer to any such actions, and only accuse the victims of being collaborators and 'shabiha', a reference to pro-government militia members.

Father Pizzaballa, a colleague in the Franciscan Friars of the Custody of the Holy Land, to which Father Francois belonged, told the Italian newspaper La Repubblica that none of their priests were the victims in the video.

"None of our priests have died in this manner. All our priests are alive. Reading the reports circulating in the media I conclude that they have mixed up events," he said.

Peter Bouckaert, Emergencies Director for Human Rights Watch said: "Confusion may have arisen because of the appearance of this video around the same time that the news came out that Father Francois had been killed.

"Human Rights Watch has been conducting an in-depth investigation into this video, and it looks like it may have been filmed in a different location several months ago, long before Father Francois was reportedly killed."

Yasser, a Syrian activist who has been researching the killings in the video said that the incident took place "months" before the priest's death.

Several other Syrian sources, that asked not to be named, confirmed this account.

The Vatican news agency confirmed that Father Francois was killed on June 23 but said the "circumstances of the death are not fully understood".

Two days after Father Francois was killed in Ghassaniyeh, the Custody of the Holy Land issued a press release saying Islamist groups on the Sant Antonio church shot the father dead. The press release said he had been given a funeral and buried.

"Islamists attacked the monastery, ransacking it and destroying everything.

When Father Francois tried to resist, defending the nuns, rebels shot him," the release stated.

The resort town of Ghassaniyeh, in Syria's Latakia province, which was visited by the Telegraph, has fallen under the control of the extremist jihadist group Jabhat al-Nusra.

Father Francois was thought to be one of the last remaining Christian inhabitants.

Two months ago four Italian journalists were kidnapped by Jabhat al-Nusra as they filmed inside Father Francois' church, which had recently been desecrated. Susan Dabbous, one of the kidnapped journalists, reported that Jabhat al-Nusra had referred to Father Francois as "a spy".

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The Syrian civil war is an ongoing armed conflict in Syria between forces loyal to the Syrian Ba'ath Party government and those seeking to oust it. The conflict began on 15 March 2011, with popular demonstrations that grew nationwide by April 2011. These demonstrations were part of the wider Middle Eastern protest movement known as the Arab Spring. Protesters demanded the resignation of President Bashar al-Assad, whose family has held the presidency in Syria since 1971, as well as the end of Ba'ath Party rule.

In April 2011, the Syrian Army was deployed to quell the uprising, and soldiers fired on demonstrators across the country.[63][64] After months of military sieges,[65] the protests evolved into an armed rebellion. Opposition forces, mainly composed of defected soldiers and civilian volunteers, remain without central leadership.[66] The conflict has no clear fronts, with clashes taking place in many towns and cities across the country.[67] The Arab League, United States, European Union, and other countries condemned the use of violence against the protesters. The Arab League suspended Syria's membership because of the government's response to the crisis, but granted the Syrian National Coalition Syria's seat on 6 March 2013.[68]

Until middle 2012 the armed conflict had not reached the biggest cities of Damascus and Aleppo.[69] Late 2011 marked growing influence of the Islamist group Jabhat al-Nusra within the opposition forces, and in 2012 Hezbollah entered the war in support of the Syrian army.[70][71] The regime is further upheld by support from Russia and Iran, while Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Jordan transfer weapons to the rebels.[72]

In June 2013, the death toll was updated to 92,900–100,000 by the United Nations.[46][47] According to various opposition activist groups, between 75,365 and 100,195 people have been killed,[39][44][49][73] of which about half were civilians,[74] but also including 61,000 armed combatants consisting of both the Syrian Army and rebel forces,[39] up to 1,000 opposition protesters[43] and 1,000 government officials.[40] By October 2012, up to 28,000 people had been reported missing, including civilians forcibly abducted by government troops or security forces.[75] According to the UN, about 4 million Syrians have been displaced within the country and 1.5 million have fled to other countries.[76] In addition, tens of thousands of protesters have been imprisoned and there are reports of widespread torture and terror in state prisons.[77] International organizations have accused both government and opposition forces of severe human rights violations.[78] UN investigations have concluded that the government's abuses are the greatest in gravity, frequency and scale.[79

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LONDON — An opposition monitoring group that has tracked Syria’s widening civil war said Wednesday that more than 100,000 people had died in the 27-month-old conflict, with pro-government forces taking far more casualties than rebels seeking the overthrow of President Bashar al-Assad, while civilians accounted for more than one-third of the overall fatalities, the biggest single category.

The group, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which is based in Britain and relies on a network of activists in Syria for its information, put the total number of dead at 100,191 since the Syrian revolt began in March 2011. That is several thousand more than the newest United Nations count of almost 93,000 by the end of April, a number distilled from a pool of 263,055 reported killings by researchers who eliminated those lacking detail and crosschecked to remove duplicate reports. The final number, the researchers and the United Nations said, was therefore conservative.

Rami Abdul Rahman, the founder of the Syrian Observatory, said in a telephone interview that his number — 100,191 — came from adding together the daily tallies his organization has kept since the beginning of the uprising.

Those tallies were based on information from sources including the activists on the ground in Syria, lawyers, and health workers in civilian and military hospitals, rather than from combatants whose estimates could be unreliable.

Throughout the Syrian conflict, both sides have sought advantage in propaganda and media campaigns that have figured prominently alongside physical combat.

“In war, both sides lie,” Mr. Abdul Rahman said, citing examples of exaggerated death tolls that were not corroborated by evidence from activists, and other cases when people who died of natural causes were listed as combat deaths. His group also said both sides were likely to have underreported their own casualties.

The estimates by United Nations and the opposition group offered the caveat that the true scale of the killing may be much greater.

“The death toll does not include more than 10,000 detainees and missing persons inside of regime prisons, nor does it include more than 2,500 regular soldiers and pro-regime militants held captive by rebel fighters,” the Syrian Observatory said in a statement on its Web site.

“We also estimate that the real number of casualties from regular forces and rebel fighters is twice the number documented, because both sides are discreet about the human losses resulting from clashes,” the statement added.

In its breakdown, the group said the dead included 36,661 civilians, including 8,000 women and children; 13,539 rebel fighters; and 2,015 defectors from government forces.

Among pro-government forces, the group said 25,407 regular soldiers had been killed along with 17,311 members of militias and pro-government units including some listed as informers for the government.

The war has drawn in an unknown number of foreign militants and outside fighters, including Lebanese Hezbollah forces. The figures released Wednesday said the dead included more than 2,500 unidentified and non-Syrian combatants on the rebel side and 169 fighters from Hezbollah.

This year, Mr. Abdul Rahman, who fled Syria 13 years ago, said his network relied on four men inside Syria who help to report and collate information from more than 230 activists on the ground. His group is based in Coventry and operates out of a semidetached redbrick house on a residential street.

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The crowd whips itself into frenzy and screaming "God is great" some of the rebels slaughter two of the prisoners.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Nice cherry picking there. I suppose reading and understanding articles where there is more than a couple of lines is something you are not yet up to yet. Maybe when you get to Grade 4 you'll learn to take in whole paragraphs and one day, you may even be able to write a couple.

Keep trying. C- for effort.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Here's a challenge for you, Rap. Write in a couple of paragraphs on what you believe is happening in Syria, including who is fighting who, possible causes, involvement of other countries. I'd like to see if you can demonstrate any complex understanding of any issue.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

Oh yeah, liberals support violence by extremist nutcases.

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Which Muslim jihadist terror groups do you sympathize with? Signy likes Hamas, PLO, and Hezbollah because they mostly kill Jews in Israel. No one likes dead Jews more than Signy. Just ask her.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

So eating the heart ( or was it the liver, like it matters all that much ) of a dead / dying soldier wasn't enough to disgust the civilized world, the fanaticals decided they needed to go to the old stand by , and saw ( no, not w/ a big scimitar ) off the heads of a Catholic priests and some others.

How much money are we giving these guys again, and why ? Maybe Sen. McCain can get the beheader's autograph, if he can't get his picture taken w/ him.

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Here's a challenge for you, Rap. Write in a couple of paragraphs on what you believe is happening in Syria, including who is fighting who, possible causes, involvement of other countries. I'd like to see if you can demonstrate any complex understanding of any issue.

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I can demonstrate plenty of understanding of lots of complex issues.

But I'm not amused by your 'challenge', so no thank you.

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Because I really don't think you have ever demonstrated any more complex thinking than....

All Muslim bad
All Muslim want kill Christian

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I feel no need to demonstrate anything to you, and I never claimed ALL Muslims were evil. Or even most.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
So you've accepted that it wasn't "a Catholic priest", but you're still sure it was a bunch of radical Islamists.

Huh. I think we can all see your prejudices quite clearly.

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I didn't start this thread.

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(CNN) -- A Syrian rebel carves the heart out of a dead man and bites it. His comrades nearby cheer: "God is great."

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So you've accepted that it wasn't "a Catholic priest", but you're still sure it was a bunch of radical Islamists.

Huh. I think we can all see your prejudices quite clearly.

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The story claims it wasn't the Priest who was killed in the video, but other reports still claim he was. Either way, he's dead.

I never claimed it wasn't radicals who did the killing, dumb ass.

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Fact is, there IS no quid pro quo, on Christians attacking Muslims. Or Jews or even Buddhists attacking Muslims.

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I've not back peddled...

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So RAPPY is all knotted up by a person being beheaded, but has a wargasm about people being blown to bits from the sky.

Got it.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So RAPPY is all knotted up by a person being beheaded, but has a wargasm about people being blown to bits from the sky.

Got it.

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