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NY fights site listing homes for tourists to rent

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Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:13 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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NEW YORK (AP) -- Each night, people in apartments all over New York City are cleaning up, putting out fresh towels and clearing out -- to rent their private space to strangers from around the world.

Thousands of city residents are using websites such as Airbnb.com to list apartments or rooms for as little as $35 a night, a phenomenon officials say is illegal in many cases, undercuts the hotel industry, avoids taxes and threatens apartment building safety.

New York's top prosecutor is demanding that Airbnb turn over data on city dwellers who have listed on the site as part of an investigation into whether residents are breaking a state law barring sublets for fewer than 30 days if occupants are not present.

But many residents in the nation's most expensive city say they're providing a service that's valuable to them and their guests. Subletting for nights at a time is often the only way they can afford to pay rents that average $3,000 a month and can top $6,000 in the most desirable areas.

"I use Airbnb to supplement my income, and it's allowed me to go back to school," says Mishelle Farer, a 32-year-old former U.S. Army sergeant who rents her second bedroom in Brooklyn's artsy Williamsburg neighborhood through Airbnb for $60 to $70 a night, depending on the season.

Farer says she covers about half her rent through such arrangements. And besides, "I've met so many wonderful people from France, Germany, Spain, South Africa, Brazil, the Philippines."

Travel guide author Pauline Frommer says Airbnb and smaller sites such as flipkey.com, couchsurfer.com and housetrip.com fill a need in a city where hotel prices average $275.

"New York hotel prices are truly outrageous," Frommer says. "The city is overwhelmed with visitors, and it's practically impossible to find an affordable hotel room, so you need some kind of outlet."

Airbnb started five years ago in San Francisco, after two roommates couldn't afford their rent and inflated air beds for paying guests. It now operates globally in 35,000 communities, currently offering 500,000 listings, and is the world's biggest short-term rental company. The site takes 6 to 12 percent of every rental.

In New York, the company says about 15,000 people are offering short-term rentals ranging from $35 for a private space in a Brooklyn studio to a $60 walkup in Times Square to $120 for a garden apartment in Brooklyn's Red Hook to $921 for an antiques-furnished loft in Tribeca.

New York City has been aggressively challenging Airbnb, contending many sublets on its site are illegal because residents aren't there. And the city says such rentals are cheating the city of lodging taxes.

Since the mayor's office began examining short-term rentals in 2006, it has fielded more than 3,000 complaints and issued almost 6,000 notices of violation, including fire, safety and occupancy infractions, which carry fines.

Airbnb says 87 percent of hosts in New York share the space they live in with guests. The company has called the subpoena of customer information by Attorney General Eric Schneiderman an "unfounded fishing expedition" and says hosts are responsible for following varying laws around the world.

NYC & Company, the city's official tourism agency, issued a statement saying, "This illegal practice takes away much needed hotel tax revenue from city coffers with no consumer protections against fire- and health-code violations." Neither city officials nor hotel organizations would estimate how much revenue hotels and the city might be losing.



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Oh, dear. The city's losing tax money and the hotels can't get their outrageous room rates. Time for the government to step in and save the day.

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Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:20 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


We have the same problem in parts of LA, and it's a serious one for homeowners. After all, how would you feel if there was a house next door that was being used as hotel 24/7, with people "checking in" and "checking out" at all hours, being loud all night long, creating parking issues on your street, and in general behaving NOT like neighbors who live there, but like rotten hotel guests? The person who rents out their home on an occassional basis is not the problem, but the owner who decides to become a hotelier on your street raises a LOT of complaints FROM THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, and those issues are taken to the City Council. Your anti-government bias blinds you.

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Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:26 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
We have the same problem in parts of LA, and it's a serious one for homeowners. After all, how would you feel if there was a house next door that was being used as hotel 24/7, with people "checking in" and "checking out" at all hours, being loud all night long, creating parking issues on your street, and in general behaving NOT like neighbors who live there, but like rotten hotel guests? The person who rents out their home on an occassional basis is not the problem, but the owner who decides to become a hotelier on your street raises a LOT of complaints FROM THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, and those issues are taken to the City Council. Your anti-government bias blinds you.



We've had that around here. It's generally folks renting out a house to groups that are bigger than occupancy laws allow (usually immigrants). The county shuts them down.

Sort of different than renting a spare bedroom to one person for a few days. In fact, the city is not complaining about rentals over 30 days, only the short term ones that impact hotels and hotel taxes.

Also note that NYC is complaining most about the lost tax revenue, not safety.

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Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:34 AM

STORYMARK


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Given that you completely ignore everything Sig said, this is one hell of an ironic statement.

Its hilarious when people think they're being clever by repeating someone else's phrasing, yet are so happy with themselves they dont see how they just undermined their own point...



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