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Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:46 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: ...and, again, why not work to improve the ACA rather than just try to go back to the bad status quo?
Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:17 PM
STORYMARK
Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:01 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: This thread is an example of why people consider Geezer a right winger. "Because fixing it will cost a lot more, and lead to a lot more problems with coverage, than having had it done right in the first place."
Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:45 PM
Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: And doing it right the first time is pretty much impossible when one party is dedicated to doing anything they can to make sure it doesn't happen at all.
Quote:And even as the Obama administration was setting up the program, White House officials, who had no pride of authorship and feared it would be risky, repeatedly suggested that funding for the co-ops be reduced, according to more than half a dozen people familiar with budget negotiations and the legislative debate. The funding was cut to a small fraction of what experts told Congress would be needed for the ventures to be viable.
Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:51 PM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: It's part of the ACA that doesn't work. It's going to cost folks money that've paid to co-ops for coverage they won't get. It's going to require them to search for new coverage, and probably more expensive coverage since the co-ops were non-profit. Not to mention the problems they'll have if they have substantial medical expenses during the time between when the co-op they thought had them covered fails and they find new coverage. Yes, eventually, they will probably be covered again, but if the folks who had designed this portion of the ACA had done a proper job, they wouldn't be scrambling to get new coverage.
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer:I have G's post above about costs for a hip replacement in Europe vs. in the U.S. I could also note that the U.S. has the highest cost of healthcare as a percentage of GDP and per capita in the world. Go to Nationmaster.com and look under the "health" category at costs, and pretty much every one has the U.S. paying more for healthcare than anyone else in the world.
Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Most likely that so called specialist does not know what they are talking about. http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2013/10/healthcare_gov_problems_what_5_million_lines_of_code_really_means.html?wpisrc=burger_bar The only messy reporting is coming from the Left, and those friendly towards this administration, it seems. http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2013/10/24/cmon-the-obamacare-website-doesnt-have-500-million-lines-of-code/ **** WASHINGTON (CNN) - Amid the government shutdown, the online health insurance exchanges are open for business. The White House said there would be glitches with the Affordable Care Act roll-out, but some experts question the severity. Luke Chung operates a database company in northern Virginia. He's an expert on heavily-trafficked websites, but even he is frustrated navigating 'healthcare.gov.' Since the Obamacare rollout last week, Chung's been trying only to get quotes on prices, not even to enroll. Error messages, slow connections, getting booted out of the system, and other problems have exasperated hundreds of thousands of uninsured who've tried to log-on. Now we're hearing the Obama Administration was warned well before the rollout that the online exchange had big problems. One Democratic ally of the administration, Congressman Robert Andrews, says he spoke to the White House, months before the unveiling. "I discussed with White House people things they already knew, which is that an undertaking of this size is going to be very complex," said Andrews. Andrews believes the White House was on top of the situation. Robert Laszewski, a health-care consultant, disagrees. Robert says many of his clients, major insurers, had contentious meetings with the administration ahead of the rollout. "Insurance executives have been warning the administration bluntly that this whole system is not ready for primetime. It wasn't going to be ready on October 1st to appropriately enroll people." http://www.wwlp.com/news/national/were-warnings-for-the-obamacare-site-ignored Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen Resident USA Freedom Fundie " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Most likely that so called specialist does not know what they are talking about. http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2013/10/healthcare_gov_problems_what_5_million_lines_of_code_really_means.html?wpisrc=burger_bar
Saturday, October 26, 2013 3:46 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Saturday, October 26, 2013 10:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "Well, it's the non-profit co-ops that are failing." ARE they failing? Show me some cites, or that gets filed under 'opinion'.
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