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Dem Senator Diane Fienstien insults ALL Vets
Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:19 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:27 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Thursday, November 7, 2013 1:32 PM
AGENTROUKA
Thursday, November 7, 2013 2:38 PM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/feinstein.asp It's a little more complex than that. No opinion on the subject itself, but what's the point of being inexact?
Thursday, November 7, 2013 6:11 PM
Thursday, November 7, 2013 6:45 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:In response, Senator Feinstein stated neither that "all vets are mentally ill" nor that "the government should prevent [veterans] from owning firearms"; that claim is a highly exaggerated paraphrase of her remarks. What Feinstein did do was express her opinion that creating an exemption in an assault weapons ban (not a general firearms ban) for retired military personnel might was inadvisable due to both the prevalence of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) among that group and the difficulty of verifying that a potential gun purchaser was in fact a veteran, and that the proposed amendment should therefore include a provision for screening out "mentally incapacitated" veterans: Quote:If I understand this, this [amendment] adds an exemption of retired military. As I understand our bill, no issue has arose [sic] in this regard during the 10 years the expired ban was in effect and what we did in the other bill was exempt possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States. So that included active military. The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it’s not clear how the seller or transferrer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this. So, you know, I would be happy to sit down with you again and see if we could work something out but I think we have to — if you’re going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don’t have access to this kind of weapon.
Quote:If I understand this, this [amendment] adds an exemption of retired military. As I understand our bill, no issue has arose [sic] in this regard during the 10 years the expired ban was in effect and what we did in the other bill was exempt possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States. So that included active military. The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, it’s not clear how the seller or transferrer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this. So, you know, I would be happy to sit down with you again and see if we could work something out but I think we have to — if you’re going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don’t have access to this kind of weapon.
Friday, November 8, 2013 3:20 AM
ELVISCHRIST
Friday, November 8, 2013 7:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: THIS " idiot doesn't care if it's true - its just another piece of ammo to attack with."
Friday, November 8, 2013 8:04 AM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Hey Niki - If you like your plan, you can keep it. If you like your doctor, you can keep him. Period.
Friday, November 8, 2013 2:17 PM
Quote:California’s Obamacare website is working fine and is not besieged with the problems that have been plaguing the federal website in other states. The reason is that California developed its own website. http://www.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2013/10/30/wednesday-must-reads-lawmakers-to-probe-bart-worker-deaths-obamacare-working-just-fine-in-California
Friday, November 8, 2013 2:36 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:This is from a party which wanted to list white males, military vets coming back from Iraq / Afghanistan as ' suspected terrorists '.
Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:06 PM
Saturday, November 9, 2013 1:47 PM
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