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Bitcoins: Just another path to inequality

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Friday, November 8, 2013 21:10
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Sunday, November 3, 2013 7:49 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


What do bitcoins offer that regular money doesn't?

Well, they can't be created out of thin air viola!... like the banks literally create money. They can't be double-spent. They can't be inflated.

Bitcoins were modeled on gold. Literally. There is only a limited amount available. The more that are "mined", the harder it is to create more. It can't be inflated. That's where the advantages end. What bitcoins don't do:

There aren't enough bitcoins to power a world economy. Even if you were to give everyone an equal share, there are only 21 million possible bitcoins... seven billion people... well, you do the math.

Those with the most computing power can "mine" the most bitcoins, so "them as has, gets". The creation of bitcoins is geared to those who already have money.

EVEN IF bitcoins were evenly distributed out, eventually they would be subject to the same speculation as gold.

Bitcoins can potentially be hacked. The higher in value that they rise, the more likely it is that someone will figure out how to steal them.

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Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:25 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Only thing I've seen that they offer is privacy, such as it can be found these days, cause all other forms of electronic transaction are tightly monitored and even paying by cash has its own perils.

I'm not fond of the concept for the same reasons you mentioned, and my personal gripe is that if it isn't physically in my possession it has neither value nor meaning - in extremis I'll use an unattributable shipping method to deliver small amounts of precious metals or uncut gems instead.

I like "things", but "things" have value only according to need, desire, and perspective - while gold for example may have intrinsic value, you can't eat it, yanno.

Having previously mentioned currency with an expiration date and food as currency, I wonder if the two could not be combined - like, a cookie or cracker valued by its caloric content which if not eaten prior to expiration more or less disintegrates (biodegradeably, of course).

OM NOM NOM.

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Friday, November 8, 2013 9:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It had to happen....

Bit-heist: Over $1mn in bitcoins stolen from Australian online bank

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An Australian bitcoin bank holding over US$1 million of the crypto-currency has been hacked, leaving an unknown number of users with nothing – one of the largest thefts in the currency’s four-year history.

The incident took place on October 26, when the bank was hacked, with 4,100 bitcoins valued at $1.3 million stolen, the service’s operator only known as ‘Tradefortress’ said. He refused to give his name to the press, also stressing he was not much older than 18.

It took the bank’s owner two weeks to notify the affected customers.

Bitcoin is a decentralized, crypto-currency, free from any government or central bank control. Currency is sold and bought at online exchanges, and those transactions can be virtually anonymous.

One bitcoin is currently worth more than $300 on Mt. Gox, the world’s largest bitcoin exchange - up from around $50 in March. There are 11,925,700 million bitcoins in circulation.

The Sydney man offered the service called Inputs.io, which he claimed was "one of the most secure web wallets on the market." Customers were charged a small fee to keep their bitcoins there.

The site used two-factor authentication and location-based email confirmation, and said the page was started to avert "the hack of bitcoins even if the web server was compromised."

Some of the hacked money is to be refunded, the operator told Fairfax Media. Tradefortress said he would use 1,000 of his own bitcoins, as well as the money the hackers didn’t steal.

"Users are being repaid up to 100 percent depending on the amount (sliding scale), generally 40-75 percent," Tradefortress said.

The operator indicated the attack was possible due to “a flaw” in the system which allowed the hackers to bypass the protection.

Currently, there’s a sad face emoticon posted online and a notice that reads "I know this doesn't mean much, but I'm sorry, and saying that I'm very sad that this happened is an understatement."


http://rt.com/news/bitcoin-hacking-stolen-million-417/

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