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President Caves on Obamacare Fix: 'Have to Win Back Credibility'

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Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:45 PM

JONGSSTRAW


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President's Obamacare Fix: Delay Insurance Cancellations

Bowing to pressure, President Barack Obama on Thursday announced changes to his healthcare law that would give insurance companies the option to keep offering consumers plans that would otherwise be canceled.
The administrative changes are good for just one year, though senior administration officials said they could be extended if problems with the law persist. Obama announced the changes at the White House.

Obama has been under enormous pressure from congressional Democrats to give ground on the cancellation issue under the health care overhaul, a program likely to be at the center of next year's midterm elections for control of the House and Senate.

It's unclear what the impact of Thursday's changes will be for the millions of people who have already had their plans canceled. While officials said insurance companies will now be able to offer those people the option to renew their old plans, companies are not required to take that step.

Insurance companies will be required to inform consumers who want to keep canceled plans about the protections that are not included under those plans. Customers will also be notified that new options are available offering more coverage and in some cases, tax credits to cover higher premiums.

Under Obama's plan, insurance companies would not be allowed to sell coverage deemed subpar under the law to new customers, marking a difference with legislation that House Republicans intend to put to a vote on Friday.

"The bottom line is insurers can extend current plans that would otherwise be cancelled into 2014," he explained.

"And the American people -- those who got cancellation notices deserve and have received -- an apology from me," Obama said, acknowledging several times that "that's on me."

"But they don't want just words," he said. "What they want is whether we can make sure that they are in a better place and that we meet that commitment."

While admitting that the online marketplace for consumers to find new health plans had had a "rough start," Obama warned his political opponents not to try to overturn the entire law.

"I will not accept proposals that are just another brazen attempt to undermine or repeal the overall law and drag us back into a broken system," he said.

Republicans were unimpressed with the president's changes.

House Speaker John Boehner, speaking in advance of the president's announcement, insisted it was time to "scrap this law once and for all."

"You can't fix this government-run health care plan called Obamacare . ... It's just not fix-able."

America's Health Insurance Plans, an industry trade group, said on Thursday that the president's fix for canceled health plans could "destabilize" the insurance market and lead to higher costs for consumers.

"Changing the rules after health plans have already met the requirements of the (Obamacare) law could destabilize the market and result in higher premiums," AHIP President Karen Ignagni said in a statement.

"Additional steps must be taken to stabilize the marketplace and mitigate the adverse impact on consumers," she said.

While the White House deals with the cancellation issue, the administration is also promising improvements in a federal website so balky that enrollments totaled fewer than 27,000 in October in 36 states combined. The administration had said in advance the enrollment numbers would fall far short of initial expectations. After weeks of highly publicized technical woes, they did.

The president acknowledged that "we fumbled the rollout of this health care law" and pledged to "just keep on chipping away at this until the job is done."

He also promised to work to regain the trust of the American people.

"I think it's legitimate for them to expect me to have to win back some credibility on this health care law in particular and on a whole range of these issues in general," he said.

Adding in enrollment of more than 79,000 in the 14 states with their own websites, the nationwide number of 106,000 October sign-ups was barely one-fifth of what officials had projected — and a small fraction of the millions who have received private coverage cancellations as a result of the federal law.

The administration said an additional 1 million people have been found eligible to buy coverage in the markets, with about one-third qualifying for tax credits to reduce their premiums. Another 396,000 have been found eligible for Medicaid, which covers low-income people.

Administration officials and senior congressional Democrats expressed confidence in the program's future. "We expect enrollment will grow substantially throughout the next five months," said Sebelius, who is in charge of the program.

"Even with the issues we've had, the marketplace is working and people are enrolling," she added.

Despite the expressions, the White House worked to reassure anxious Democrats who are worried about the controversial program, which they voted into existence three years ago over Republican opposition as strong now as it was then.

Senate Democrats arranged a closed-door meeting for midday Thursday in the Capitol with White House officials, who held a similar session Wednesday with the House rank and file. Ahead of that meeting, Obama planned to speak from the White House about new efforts to help Americans receiving insurance cancellation notices.

So far, five Senate Democrats are on record in support of legislation by Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., to make sure everyone can keep their present coverage if they want to. The bill would require insurance companies to continue offering existing policies, even if they fall short of minimum coverage requirements in the law.

The measure has little apparent chance at passage, given that it imposes a new mandate on the insurance industry that Republicans will be reluctant to accept.

At the same time, a vote would at least permit Democrats to say they have voted to repair some of the problems associated with the Affordable Care Act, as many appear eager to do.

In a statement, Landrieu said Sens. Jeff Merkley of Oregon, Kay Hagan of North Carolina and Mark Pryor of Arkansas were now supporting the legislation, as is Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California. All but Feinstein are on the ballot next year.

Across the Capitol, majority Republicans in the House set a vote for Friday on legislation to permit insurance companies to continue selling existing policies that have been ordered scrapped because they fall short of coverage standards in the law.

While House passage of the measure is assured, each Democrat will be forced to cast a vote on the future of a program that Republicans have vowed to place at the center of next year's campaign.

Democratic Rep. Mike Doyle of Pennsylvania, who voted for the initial Obama health care bill, said Thursday that members of his caucus want an opportunity to go on the record in support of allowing people to keep the insurance they had.

Doyle told MSNBC in an interview that at a White House meeting Wednesday, House Democrats told Obama about "the frustration level that many of us have" with the health care roll-out.

Doyle said Democrats warned Obama that "if you don't give us something by Friday" to fix the insurance cancellation problem, then many Democrats are likely to vote for the pending House bill sponsored by Republican Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan, which would accomplish that goal.

The promise of keeping coverage was Obama's oft-stated pledge when the legislation was under consideration, a calling card since shredded by the millions of cancellations mailed out by insurers.

Obama apologized last week for the broken promise, but aides said at the time the White House was only considering administration changes, rather than new legislation.


http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/obama-obamacare-fixes-democrats/2013/1
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Thursday, November 14, 2013 4:24 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by G:
Midway through his press conference we started guessing how the right would spin this in a bad way...

My favorite was: "Great, nice one Obama! Now people are stuck with their shitty policies for a whole 'nother year, thx!"




Dude, the only one spinning is the Left! ROFLMAO!

Obama lied. He KNOWINGLY lied, pushing this on the country when it wasn't ready, nor was it workable. MILLIONS losing their policies, thanks to O-care.

" If you like your policies, you can keep it. "

That's what he said. Obama NEVER sold this as " If I like your policy, you can keep it ". I know there's plenty of ObamaBots who are so deluded that they'd still have voted for him if he'd said that, but more and more are saying F.U. !! ( Forget you )



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:53 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Dude, the only one spinning is the Left! ROFLMAO!

Obama lied. He KNOWINGLY lied, pushing this on the country when it wasn't ready, nor was it workable. MILLIONS losing their policies, thanks to O-care.

Obama is Daring Insurance Companies to Put Up or Shut Up

I think that most of the canceled policies have been canceled because insurance companies wanted to cancel them. They were designed in the first place to entice buyers away from their old grandfathered policies, and insurance companies did this explicitly so that they would be free to cancel them when 2014 rolled around. This allowed insurers to replace them with more expensive policies without taking any heat for it. They could just blame it on Obamacare.

I think Obama's main goal here is to remove this handy excuse. He's basically daring insurers to go ahead and reissue the old policies. If they don't do it, it means that Obamacare was never really responsible for the cancellations in the first place.

And if the insurers see that their bluff is being called and decide they don't want to take the PR hit, then the old policies get reissued and everyone is happy.

It's a win-win for Obama.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/11/obama-dares-insurance-companies
-put-or-shut


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:25 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Dude, the only one spinning is the Left! ROFLMAO!

Obama lied. He KNOWINGLY lied, pushing this on the country when it wasn't ready, nor was it workable. MILLIONS losing their policies, thanks to O-care.

" If you like your policies, you can keep it. "

That's what he said. Obama NEVER sold this as " If I like your policy, you can keep it ". I know there's plenty of ObamaBots who are so deluded that they'd still have voted for him if he'd said that, but more and more are saying F.U. !! ( Forget you )



Everyone could have kept their plan. Grandfathering is already in the law. What was not was a provision that prevented insurance company from canceling policies they did not have to cancel.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:35 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Everyone could have kept their plan. Grandfathering is already in the law. What was not was a provision that prevented insurance company from canceling policies they did not have to cancel.



Even the Washington Post gave that four Pinocchios.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/10/30/obamas-
pledge-that-no-one-will-take-away-your-health-plan
/


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:30 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Obama - a speechmaker looking for cronies and trying to placate tptb - ie, a quintessential politician. If he had hired the right people to get the website going, the cancelled policies (not a government decision, but a business one made by our saviors, the corporations) would have gone under the radar as 'unfortunate'. But you can't have a downside if you fail to provide an upside.

What Clinton did right - that Obama failed to do - was hire on or keep on people who knew their stuff, who could get the technical job done while he (Clinton) took political Whitewatertravelofficefbifilefuturestradinglewinsky flak. Carol Browner, Madeleine Albright and Dr. David Kessler come to mind as stellar examples of highly capable technocrats.

Not sure what Obama thought he was getting into as president. But he pretty obviously didn't understand a few things: 1) republicans NEVER looked to make deals and 2) there's a physical world out there that doesn't make deals either - you either do what works or you fail.

I suppose he can always comfort himself by spying on Americans and killing people with missiles.



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Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Geezer - you just can't hide your hypocrisy, can you?


As evidence of "rape mentality"

Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is

whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies.



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Friday, November 15, 2013 9:00 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Everyone could have kept their plan. Grandfathering is already in the law. What was not was a provision that prevented insurance company from canceling policies they did not have to cancel.



Even the Washington Post gave that four Pinocchios.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/10/30/obamas-
pledge-that-no-one-will-take-away-your-health-plan
/


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."



What Nick said was technically correct, and the factcheck doesn't say otherwise. I think we can agree though that Obama was wrong to make promises to people about being able to keep their policies when that was ultimately down to the insurance companies, AND with the knowledge that his law would almost certainly cause the insurance companies to cancel policies, for a small proportion of people.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Friday, November 15, 2013 9:19 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, they just can't handle the reality that it's the insurance companies--who could have kept those policies active perfectly fine if THEY CHOSE TO--who are responsible for the cancellations. It's like "Obama shut down the government", it only works if it's OBAMA's fault.

Second called it absolutely accurately. The irony is that the Post's Fact Check nailed it:
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The president’s pledge that “if you like your insurance, you will keep it” was an extraordinarily bold — and possibly foolish — pledge, unless he simply could dictate exactly how the insurance industry must work.


The irony is hysterical. It is INSURANCE COMPANIES who decided that, given those grandfathered plans are only year-by-year and now cannot accept new customers, there's no money in continuing them (but lots in pushing people into more expensive plans--and CONNING them into thinking they have to buy MUCH more expensive plans from the same insurance company), they'd cancel them. So THEY cancelled them. The only other option would have been for the ACA to MANDATE that insurance companies keep offering the grandfathered plans, and can you just hear the screams from the right if they'd done that, if they'd literally FORCED insurance companies to keep selling policies they didn't want to? Oh, my aching ears!

Unquestionably, they screwed up, Obama misled the public because, knowing how insurance companies work, he and everyone involved knew they'd start canceling plans that weren't sufficiently profitable to try and push people into even MORE profitable plans than the ACA offered…even by lying about it. Wrong, bad, but not the way they want to paint it.


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