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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Niki, that's an interesting bit of news, but it doesn't surprise me. From what I understand, the states with republican governors have also refused to implement exchange market sites for a smoother transition for their constituents.

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It's totally ironic how this all has transpired. These fuckers are trashing a primarily conservative agenda in the ACA, that started in Mass with Romney, and is now working like gangbusters in CT, CA, Washington state, MN and Kentucky. The Tea Party and republicans have no freaking clue as to what to do.

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There should be an addendum to the Constitution that would automatically remove any representative for dereliction of duty. If a soldier can be court martialed for going AWOL, then so can too an elected official for not progressing the country by using stalling tactics and obstructing the business of running the government.

If the Tea Party doesn't want government, then I say secede from the union and get the fuck outta the way.


SGG

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Originally posted by Niki2:That's okay, I'm sure Jesus Cruz applauds him.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
You know the raptard is struggling when he pulls out his tired little "messiah" remark. It always comes out when he knows he has nothing of actual substance to say.

But he tossed out a PN level conspiracy theory.

Priceless.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, I guess you hail from the Sgt Ed Shultz camp, claiming " THERE ARE NO GLITCHES! ", huh?

The Denial in you is very strong.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

The problem is far greater than mere 'glitches'.

And even IF the site were being attacked, so what ? Sites are being attacked all the time. Hackers even boast they're doing the site a service, by showing the weaknesses in the security. If anything, folks should be PRAISING 'Destroy Obamacare ', and not blaming anyone for it.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

The problem is far greater than mere 'glitches'.

And even IF the site were being attacked, so what ? Sites are being attacked all the time. Hackers even boast they're doing the site a service, by showing the weaknesses in the security. If anything, folks should be PRAISING 'Destroy Obamacare ', and not blaming anyone for it.

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Folks should be praising it? Wow, you're an idiot.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And you're s short sighted Obama myrmidon.

The site wasn't even properly TESTED, genius. How wasn't this going to happen?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And you're s short sighted Obama myrmidon.

The site wasn't even properly TESTED, genius. How wasn't this going to happen?

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What does testing have to do with people trying to attack the site...nothing. Keep spinning!

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If anything, folks should be PRAISING 'Destroy Obamacare ', and not blaming anyone for it.

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Well, I guess you gotta admire the REACH, if not the intelligence... "I gotta come up with something...ANYTHING..."

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Not spin, just factin'. It has EVERYTHING to do w/ testing, simpleton. Proper security would make this sort of stuff moot. Hundreds of millions of $'s spent, and they still can't make a site work. Effing morons running our country now.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Not spin, just factin'. It has EVERYTHING to do w/ testing, simpleton. Proper security would make this sort of stuff moot. Hundreds of millions of $'s spent, and they still can't make a site work. Effing morons running our country now.

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Proper security? You have no idea how a denial of service attack works.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nope, not a clue. I'll admit that. But the problems of the site go well beyond mere ' glitches' or denial of service claims.

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Nope, not a clue. I'll admit that. But the problems of the site go well beyond mere ' glitches' or denial of service claims.

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Your right the problems with the site do go beyond those. That does not however make it all right for individuals to try and prevent people from accessing the site as it is. Right now most people can registar and sign up for insurance through the site. There are still to many that have having problem, but for most it works.

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Denial of service attacks are used so often because you don't have to break a sites security to use them. In fact there is little security against them, that is why they are so effective. DOS attacks basicly force a website to respond to millions of fake information requests, as if millions of people are trying to access the site at the same time. The only way not have a site slow down is to have massive amounts of bandwith and server space. Far more than most sites would ever need or even want.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
First of all, I never said it made it RIGHT. All I'm pointing out is that hackers ( whom ever they are ) have a warped sense of duty, as they see it, to ferret out holes in a website and see if they can exploit any lapses in security. Because if THEY can, then others, with more devious plans, can and WILL.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:I dispute that MOST of the site works. They may be registering, but most aren't able to actively enroll into plans yet. They're just filling out forms, on line, in the hopes of actually enrolling sometime. Later. God only knows when.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:For the money spent in setting this up, there should be very little problems, at all.

And despite the misleading title, there's STILL no actual proof this was from the Right, is there ?

Meh..details, details.

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Originally posted by JONGSSTRAW:
The hackers are doing a great service to the country. They're preventing innocent people from having their identities stolen from a mickey mouse unsecure website, and they're helping delay the most destructive and unpopular piece of partisan legislation ever foisted on the American people.

Hopefully by the time Healthcare.gov is relaunched the hackers will be ready to infect it with a non-malevolent virus that simply shuts down all user devices as they log on.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:

They would have less problems if they could have just picked their contractor instead of bidding them out, like the DOJ gets to do.

Oh, and it is the right that hate this law so who else would it be?

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He also claimed it was probably "ticked off Libs", when the wording of the quote makes it crystal clear it's people who want to DESTROY the ACA website, and as Nick pointed out, it's only those on the RIGHT who want that. Their very claims make it obvious who it is and why they're doing it, despite his absurd attempt to spin it.

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Originally posted by Niki2:
"It was never meant to work anyways"

That would be an absurd statement from anyone, but all it does where Rap's concerned is illustrate that he's always willing to buy into the most absurd, illogical talking point the right wing can find.

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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:

Or could it be that you're just a racist cunt?

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Originally posted by Niki2:
"It was never meant to work anyways"

That would be an absurd statement from anyone, but all it does where Rap's concerned is illustrate that he's always willing to buy into the most absurd, illogical talking point the right wing can find.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
His ignorance exposed - rappy bails.

He's consistent, at least.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:

Or could it be that you're just a racist cunt?

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