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Leftist Professor Jonathan Turley : ' Obama a danger to the Constitution '
Monday, December 23, 2013 4:35 PM
AURAPTOR
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Quote: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch. This Newtonian orbit that the three branches exist in is a delicate one but it is designed to prevent this type of concentration. There is two trends going on which should be of equal concern to all members of Congress. One is that we have had the radical expansion of presidential powers under both President Bush and President Obama. We have what many once called an imperial presidency model of largely unchecked authority. And with that trend we also have the continued rise of this fourth branch. We have agencies that are quite large that issue regulations. The Supreme Court said recently that agencies could actually define their own or interpret their own jurisdiction. (House hearing, December 3, 2013) http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/12/04/turley_obamas_become_the_very_danger_the_constitution_was_designed_to_avoid.html
Monday, December 23, 2013 6:54 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
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Monday, December 23, 2013 9:05 PM
MAL4PREZ
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: There is [sic]two trends going on which should be of equal concern to all members of Congress. One is that we have had the radical expansion of presidential powers under both President Bush and President Obama....
Monday, December 23, 2013 9:16 PM
Monday, December 23, 2013 9:38 PM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Note how a thread on a Leftist professor's view on Obama has suddenly turned into an ad hominem attack on me ? With out a single remark about the actual issue. Too gorram funny.
Monday, December 23, 2013 11:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Note how a thread on a Leftist professor's view on Obama has suddenly turned into an ad hominem attack on me ? With out a single remark about the actual issue. Too gorram funny. What is funny is that there has not been any ad hominem attack on you in this thread.
Quote: Now as for the video M4P got it right. You want to prove him wrong post a link to that thread you started or agreed (during Bushes Presidency) with the premise that Bush was expanding the powers of the Presidency beyond the Constitution.
Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:04 AM
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Tuesday, December 24, 2013 1:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: * " As evidence of "rape mentality..." * This is what the "lefties" on this board have been telling you for years, dumbass * Well, other than those couple...
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: This isn't about Bush. And I don't need to search any damn thing to remember what I said from 6 or 8 years ago. I and other conservatives DID have reservations about expanding the powers of the Presidency, as well as the entire Dept of Homeland Security Act. That we didn't go apeshit over it and call for W's execution , as the Left just about did, doesn't mean we were all on board. Again, this is about what OBAMA has done, since Jan 20, 2009. We're now at the end of 2013. Yet you want to keep pretending W is still in office. Why is that, exactly ?
Tuesday, December 24, 2013 1:39 AM
Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:55 AM
Quote: What is funny is that there has not been any ad hominem attack on you in this thread.
Quote: So it is about Bush as well.
Tuesday, December 24, 2013 9:59 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Note how a thread on a Leftist professor's view on Obama has suddenly turned into an ad hominem attack on me ?
Tuesday, December 24, 2013 1:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: There had been 3, in fact, at the time you made your post. 2 by 1kiki ( the same one, repeated ) and 1 by M4P.
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: But only as a side note. It is about Obama, who has been President for 5 years, and instead of being who he campaigned as, or as many HOPED he'd be, turned out to be worse than Bush. Yes, Bush is mentioned, but only as a barometer to how bad Obama has become. So, it's about Obama.
Tuesday, December 24, 2013 5:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by m52nickerson: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: There had been 3, in fact, at the time you made your post. 2 by 1kiki ( the same one, repeated ) and 1 by M4P. It is clear you don't not understand what ad hominem means. There have been none against you in this thread.
Tuesday, December 24, 2013 10:48 PM
Quote:Why should I even offer commentary for one who so drastically and radically mischaracterizes the views of others?-rappy
Wednesday, December 25, 2013 11:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Why should I even offer commentary for one who so drastically and radically mischaracterizes the views of others?-rappy Because... you started the thread? tee hee hee
Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:08 AM
Quote:The RCP's story I linked to has the title - Obama's "Become The Very Danger The Constitution Was Designed To Avoid" I'm discussing the issue , or trying to, while others are stuck in mindless distractions and ad hominems.
Quote: Leftist Professor Jonathan Turley : ' Obama a danger to the Constitution '-RAPPY Do you agree with him? -KIKI Why should I even offer commentary for one who so drastically and radically mischaracterizes the views of others?- RAPPY
Quote:Because... you started the thread?- SIGNY I'm discussing the issue , or trying to, while others are stuck in mindless distractions and ad hominems.
Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:25 AM
Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:19 AM
Quote:I slung no ad hominems.
Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:27 AM
Quote: I even underlined it for you
Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:37 AM
Quote:I have ALWAYS been ready to discuss the topic.
Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:42 AM
Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: You're trolling now. I've clearly demonstrated that I do know what ad hominem means,
Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: So, Obama.. a threat to the Constitution. I agree. So does a former supporter of Obama in Prof Turley. Thoughts ?
Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:03 AM
REAVERFAN
Thursday, December 26, 2013 12:56 PM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Thursday, December 26, 2013 11:01 PM
Friday, December 27, 2013 8:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by M52NICKERSON: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: You're trolling now. I've clearly demonstrated that I do know what ad hominem means, No you still do not. Ad hominem is short for "argumentum ad hominem" which means "to the man". It is a fallacy in which an opinion or statment is seen as less valid because of the person making it. So say, "What Rappy says can't be true because he is an idiot" is an ad hominem. Saying "Rappy you are an idiot because of what you say" is not an ad hominem. Now you know and have been proven wrong, yet again.
Friday, December 27, 2013 9:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Saul Alinky distractions.
Quote: @ NOBC - RCP isn't the issue here,
Quote: I've offered 2 examples here,
Friday, December 27, 2013 9:51 AM
Quote:Dismissing my point as you disparage me = ad hominem.
Friday, December 27, 2013 10:31 AM
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Friday, December 27, 2013 2:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Nope. not proven wrong. Dismissing my point as you disparage me = ad hominem. These tedious , pointless little side arguments of the Left are classic Saul Alinky distractions. " Play the man, not the ball ", is often used in sports, meaning go after the opponent and don't bother w/ the actual POINT of the game.
Friday, December 27, 2013 5:34 PM
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: This is the last trading day of the year. Buy! SELL!! Rappy's too busy today to answer. heh heh heh
Friday, December 27, 2013 8:04 PM
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Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Every time rappy tells us how he just won - and we just failed - it's after he's blown himself up in an EPIC fail. It's a FACT: Rush Limbaugh is a blue pill addict.
Saturday, December 28, 2013 12:31 AM
Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:22 AM
Quote:Yeah. I made more in 15 minutes than you do all freakin' year. Loser. Seriously, you think I'm some sort of trader ? Too gorrma [sic] funny. The more you try to pigeonhole me, the greater your fail.
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