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Who DIDN'T see this coming??

POSTED BY: WISHIMAY
UPDATED: Monday, December 30, 2013 23:37
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Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:40 PM

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 7:21 AM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


I guess it sort of proves that if you dress and act like a stereotype long enough you become that stereotype.

I only saw the show once or twice, but since it was about as entertaining as watching paint dry and after a few minutes of exposure to it I could actually feel my IQ dropping, I figured there was way better uses of my time than watching people act like they were imbecile rednecks.

Nope, not a surprise, it was inevitable something like this would happen. The only surprise I see is why so many watch the show and think that it is smart or "cool" or whatever to act like you are as dumb as a bag of hammers.


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With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 8:19 AM

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Phil Robertson - I Am Second full video
www.iamsecond.com/seconds/the-robertsons/


Phil Robertson preaching to the congregation of Saddleback church



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 8:27 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I didn't. Don't watch the show, but my impression is that they were all pretty much live and let live sorts of folk.

Get any group of folks together, and rarely will they all agree on everything.

Per his comments... he's showing ignorance. In the truest sense. There is a good point, to criticizing how folks carry on with one another, and the trouble which can come of that. That's biblical and just common sense. But then to equate promiscuity, homosexuality into bestiality ?

smh

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 9:59 AM

BYTEMITE


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But then to equate promiscuity, homosexuality into bestiality ?


It's actually a fairly common stereotype used by the anti-gay types. You know what I'm talking about, hur hur they all have the AIDs because they sleep with everything with a Y chromosome that moves. Instead of, you know, the reality, where many of them want committed long-term relationships like most lonely isolated people in the world, and the reason why there's a higher prevalence of AIDs in the gay population is because certain methods are more effective at transmission.

And then there's the myth about how AIDs jumped from monkeys to humans because a gay guy had sex with one. So it's all lumped together into a very unflattering and offensive portrayal of gay people.

Then there's the whole thing about "the definition of marriage is between a man and a woman, and if we change that we usher in people marrying horses and dogs and cats living together and mass hysteria."

Which I recall you have argued yourself. But I'm pleased to see that you recognize that homosexuality and bestiality are not the same. The disagreement between us on gay marriage is not a matter of bigotry against gays, but more a matter of semantics.

As a side note, over the last week there have been talks in Utah about making polygamy legal again. It's funny as hell. Because it's not like the mormons are the first in line protesting any other kinds of non-traditional marriage practices or anything.

But, actually, I'm glad. I'm hoping that legalizing the institution will allow women in abusive situations to seek help without endangering their families. And I also hope this will help the young boys who are expelled from the communes because the old men don't want to share the women. We can drag the rot in their culture into the light now without destroying the culture itself.

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Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:33 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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But then to equate promiscuity, homosexuality into bestiality ?



His views. Yep. Where is the tolerance? Where is the embrace if HIS sexual preference ?

He didn't call for gays to be put into ovens, alive, as one Russian celeb did.



But because of who this guy is & supposedly represents... Suspend him!!!


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Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:07 PM

STORYMARK


He has a right to those views.

And the people who employ them have a right to chose not to do so.




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Thursday, December 19, 2013 1:36 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I've never seen the show, because from any clips or previews I ever saw, I got the impression that "since it was about as entertaining as watching paint dry and after a few minutes of exposure to it I (would) actually feel my IQ dropping, I figured there was way better uses of my time than watching people act like they were imbecile rednecks.'

So Deverse, thank you for saving me from bothering (if I ever would have). What I DIDN'T realize until I read up on this instance, having seen so little before, is that it's a REALITY show?

And yes, the connection between bestiality and homosexuality is a common meme for The Right that they've pulled out over and over:
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Republicans Predict Fraud, Bestiality if Gay Marriage Is Legalized

Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, told a group of Tea Party supporters on a conference call that gay marriage would be a slippery slope to polygamy and bestiality. “When you say it’s not a man and a woman anymore, then why not, you know, somebody has a love for an animal or-?"

In a 2003 interview, former presidential primary candidate Rick Santorum mentioned it, along with pedophilia. “In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever, to my knowledge, included homosexuality,” Santorum told The Associated Press. “It’s not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing.”



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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Wednesday appeared to suggest a link between the Supreme Court's rulings on gay marriage and marriage between a human and a non-human. "It is difficult, because if we have no laws on this, people will take it to one extension further -- does it have to be humans?" Paul said Wednesday in an interview with Glenn Beck.


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Dr. Ben Carson: "Marriage is between a man and a woman. It's a well-established, fundamental pillar of society and no group, be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality -- it doesn't matter what they are, they don't get to change the definition."


There's nothing new here, it's a tactic Republicans have been using for a long time to encourage a visceral reaction against gays. Most of the time they've had to either apologize or "clarify" that it's not what they "really meant", but they get it out there, which is the intent.

And of course they're lining up now to defend Robertson, falsely as it turns out:
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Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) on Thursday became the latest politician to defend Phil Robertson, a cast member of the reality show "Duck Dynasty" who was suspended from the television network A&E after making graphic anti-gay comments and saying African-Americans were "singing and happy" before civil rights in the South. "

“Phil Robertson and his family are great citizens of the State of Louisiana. The politically correct crowd is tolerant of all viewpoints, except those they disagree with. I don’t agree with quite a bit of stuff I read in magazine interviews or see on TV. But I also acknowledge that this is a free country and everyone is entitled to express their views."



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Sarah Palin: "Free speech is an endangered species. Those “intolerants” hatin’ and taking on the Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing his personal opinion are taking on all of us."


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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) joined Jindal and Palin in defending Robertson, writing on his Facebook page Thursday:

"Phil expressed his personal views and his own religious faith; for that, he was suspended from his job. In a free society, anyone is free to disagree with him--but the mainstream media should not behave as the thought police censoring the views with which they disagree."



And as to Robertson having been fired, bear in mind: "While the Constitution covers free speech from government interference, private businesses are generally free to punish their employees for what they say." Has nothing to do with the "mainstream media", has to do with a private enterprise. Or as one commenter to Palin's remarks wrote: "Sarah, free speech doesn't prevent or bar A&E from firing Robertson; this is a common misconception among the GOPTP."

Or another: "He said what he believed in and it was printed. No one is taking his free speech away. The TV network and his sponsors also has the right to pull his show."


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Thursday, December 19, 2013 1:54 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Losing Your TV Job Is Not a First Amendment Issue

Sigh. I can’t believe we have to explain this, over and over, every time a media figure loses a job (or just gets a for-show suspension) over saying something stupid, but: Losing your job for saying something that embarrasses your private employer–even if that is a media outlet–is not a free speech issue. It is not a First Amendment issue. It may be dumb, it may be justified, but it is not a constitutional violation. People changing the channel or not buying your products because of what you said is not “censorship”; nor is losing a business deal for same.

Cable TV is not the government, thank God. But apparently some politicians both inside and outside the government could stand to reread the First Amendment. http://entertainment.time.com/2013/12/19/losing-your-tv-job-is-not-a-f
irst-amendment-issue/#ixzz2nwqxxgff



TV firing is a business decision, not a violation of the Constitution.


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Friday, December 20, 2013 8:33 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by Niki2:

TV firing is a business decision, not a violation of the Constitution.

"A&E has a reality show that depends on the hoariest stereotypes – and yet features hilariously captivating human beings – located in the deep South. It’s a show riddled with humor and charm and redneck silliness. The point of it, so far as I can tell, is a kind of celebration of a culture where duck hunting is the primary religion, but where fundamentalist Christianity is also completely pervasive. (Too pervasive for the producers, apparently, because they edited out the saying of grace to make it non-denominational and actually edited in fake beeps to make it seem like the bearded clan swore a lot, even though they don’t.) . . .

Now I seriously don’t know what A&E were expecting when the patriarch Phil Robertson was interviewed by GQ. But surely the same set of expectations that one might have of an ostensibly liberal host of a political show would not be extended to someone whose political incorrectness was the whole point of his stardom. He’s a reality show character, for Pete’s sake. . . .

He’s not a spokesman for A&E any more than some soul-sucking social x-ray from the Real Housewives series is a spokeswoman for Bravo. Is he being fired for being out of character? Nah. He’s being fired for staying in character – a character A&E have nurtured and promoted and benefited from. Turning around and demanding a Duck Dynasty star suddenly become the equivalent of a Rachel Maddow guest is preposterous and unfair.

What Phil Robertson has given A&E is a dose of redneck reality. " – http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/12/19/ae-cannot-bear-very-much-rea
lity
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, December 20, 2013 9:20 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, that's EXCELLENTLY written, and very on point. As Wish titled this, how did they not see something like this coming? Given it's not a "character", it's a real person in a reality show, they had to have been pretty stupid not to look ahead and realize what would happen.

The rest of the article is equally on point:
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“Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right … “


This is a fascinating glimpse into the fundamentalist mind. You’ll notice that, for the fundamentalist, all sin – when it comes down to it - starts with sex. This sexual obsession, as the Pope has rightly diagnosed it, is a mark of neurotic fundamentalism in Islam and Judaism as well as Christianity. And if all sin is rooted in sex, then the homosexual becomes the most depraved and evil individual in the cosmos. So you get this classic statement about sin: “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there.”

This emphasis is absolutely not orthodox Christianity. There is nothing primary about sexual sin as such in Christian doctrine. It sure can be powerfully sinful – but it’s not where sin starts. And to posit gay people as the true source of all moral corruption is to use eliminationist rhetoric and demonizing logic to soften up a small minority of people for exclusion, marginalization and, at some point, violence.

If you think I’m hyperventilating, ask yourself what the response would be if in talking about sin, Phil Robertson had said, “Start with Jewish behavior …” The argument would be totally recognizable, once very widespread, and deeply disturbing. What we’re seeing here – and it’s very much worth debating – is how fundamentalist religion seizes on recognizable, immoral minorities to shore up its own sense of righteousness. You can gussy it up – but it’s right there in front of our nose.

Then Robertson says something that tells us nothing except he has never had an honest conversation with a gay person about what it is to be gay. He simply assumes that all men must be heterosexual, and that making themselves have sex with another man must be so horrifying it mystifies him:
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“It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would be more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking: There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”


No, it isn’t logical if it were a choice for a straight guy. But it isn’t. All we’re seeing here is the effect of cultural isolation. Mr Robertson would not be happy – indeed, rightly be extremely offended – if I reduced his entire family life and marriage to sex with a vagina.



"Amen".

It's certainly their right as his employer to fire him, or whatever, but it is, as the article said, "preposterous" not to have expected something like this. Think I'll put my money on their actions being "good p.r." and nothing more...look at all the attention it got them, and surely it will only enhance the audience for Duck Dynasty with a certain segment of the viewing public...


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Friday, December 20, 2013 9:21 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


A&E has already butt heads w/ the family of their practice of saying PRAYER before dinner, and tried to get them to not do that. So in an interview OUTSIDE of the show, this guy goes and in-artfully gives his own personal opinions. If A&E feels it must separate itself from " these types ", then by all means, it's their right to do so. I'm told the family isn't too keen with doing the show with him on suspension anyways.


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. You’ll notice that, for the fundamentalist, all sin – when it comes down to it - starts with sex


Umm, that's not true. Drunkenness,greed, lying... those are sins in their own right. His own words...

" The greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right … “

But since so much of our emotions are often connected with how we conduct our "social" affairs, it's only natural that promiscuity would a part of how he sees folks should be mindful of in how they act.

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Friday, December 20, 2013 9:24 AM

WISHIMAY


Now he's got a video saying gays are murderous...I don't see the point of picking on gays for that, it's my experience that MOST people are murderous given the right bad day

And then he demonstrates a duck call, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with murdering anyone or anything, right?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2526838/Is-end-Duck-Dynasty-Ro
bertson-family-rallies-round-embattled-patriarch-anti-gay-rant-claim-imagine-going-forward-without-helm.html

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Friday, December 20, 2013 9:34 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Umm, he didn't actually say that are murderers. Go back and re-watch, if you must. He just said that committing unnatural acts leads to all manner of sin. Which may include murder.

Humans are basically effed up, either way.

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Friday, December 20, 2013 9:37 AM

JONGSSTRAW


The Robertsons issued a statement yesterday that they will not do the show without Phil. A&E did what they thought they had to do. This may be the end of the show, at least on A&E. The Robertsons may take the show to another network. Either way, A&E has four years of shows they can re-run over and over and over as they already do ad infinitum. As long as they can continue to fill up the commercial time, everyone will be fine.

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Friday, December 20, 2013 9:41 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The Robertsons issued a statement yesterday that they will not do the show without Phil. A&E did what they thought they had to do. This may be the end of the show, at least on A&E. The Robertsons may take the show to another network. Either way, A&E has four years of shows they can re-run over and over and over as they already do ad infinitum. As long as they can continue to fill up the commercial time, everyone will be fine.



I hear Glenn Beck has offered to pick up the show on his network, should A&E cancel them.

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Friday, December 20, 2013 9:48 AM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Umm, he didn't actually say that are murderers. Go back and re-watch, if you must. He just said that committing unnatural acts leads to all manner of sin. Which may include murder.

Humans are basically effed up, either way.




Kind of implied, since he thinks all gays are unnatural. And they do have their own law enforcement tag "homocide"... but I've yet to see evidence that gay people kill at a higher rate, and given the rage monkeys killing off whole families like stick people, they've got a ways to go to catch up, methinks...

Nuts all the way 'round, yeah...

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Friday, December 20, 2013 9:49 AM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The Robertsons issued a statement yesterday that they will not do the show without Phil. A&E did what they thought they had to do. This may be the end of the show, at least on A&E. The Robertsons may take the show to another network. Either way, A&E has four years of shows they can re-run over and over and over as they already do ad infinitum. As long as they can continue to fill up the commercial time, everyone will be fine.



I hear Glenn Beck has offered to pick up the show on his network, should A&E cancel them.


I hope that doesn't happen. I think A&E will back down very soon, although this controversy may continue to grow and make that imposssible for them. It's an interesting corporate and social conundrum ... what do you do when the goose that lays the golden egg also lays an occasional bomb.


eta. Personally, I wouldn't miss Phil all that much if he did stay off the show. He's the least likeable of the bunch. Actually it's mostly the wives and children that had me watching since the beginning. They're the most interesting and brightest bulbs in that pack.

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Friday, December 20, 2013 10:17 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:


eta. Personally, I wouldn't miss Phil all that much if he did stay off the show. He's the least likeable of the bunch. Actually it's mostly the wives and children that had me watching since the beginning. They're the most interesting and brightest bulbs in that pack.



I don't watch, but from what I have seen of this guy, he's about as cuddly as a porcupine.

Unless some needy family is getting a house built for them, or some such feel good story, I have no time for " reality " t.v.

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Friday, December 20, 2013 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by second:
(Too pervasive for the producers, apparently, because they edited out the saying of grace to make it non-denominational and actually edited in fake beeps to make it seem like the bearded clan swore a lot, even though they don’t.)




I have watched the show and never seen an episode that did not have grace being said at the end or that had many if any swearing.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Friday, December 20, 2013 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:
I have watched the show and never seen an episode that did not have grace being said at the end or that had many if any swearing.

Robertson prayers are being heard:
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“I thought we were booming before,” Mr. Robertson said. “Booming is a relative term.” The family-owned business has private sales figures, but Mr. Robertson offered some indications of the level of growth. “I’ve seen figures of 2,200 percent growth,” he said. “You couldn’t chart it as far as where we have had business growth. It’s bursting at every level, every store.” www.nytimes.com/2013/08/26/business/media/duck-dynasty-familys-fortune
s-lifted-by-calculated-push-into-reality-tv.html?pagewanted=2&pagewanted=all&_r=0



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In 2011, before the show premiered, Duck Commander sold about 60,000 duck calls; in 2012, when the show premiered, that increased to 300,000. . . . Two books by cast members are currently on the New York Times best-seller list, three reached the top 10 simultaneously in September, and two of those spent time at number one on the chart at some point this year. www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/12/20/9-questions-you-we
re-too-embarrassed-to-ask-about-duck-dynasty/?wprss=rss_ezra-klein&clsrd



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Friday, December 20, 2013 12:15 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


If it goes to Beck's "channel", that's more where it would belong, it seems to me.

I agree with Jong in that "this controversy may continue to grow and make that impossible (sic) for them. It's an interesting corporate and social conundrum ... what do you do when the goose that lays the golden egg also lays an occasional bomb."

I think A&E has "de-evolved" considerably over recent years; I used to watch some of its shows, but gave up completely as, like so many, they have gone so far the way of cheap-to-produce reality TV, which I abhor. It's been shown over and over that it's not actually "reality" TV, and in my opinion it's a way of filling air time inexpensively, most of it is lowest-common-denominator stuff utilizing sensationalism and people I don't enjoy watching.

And I have the same question Wish's Daily Mail article does: "This has led to some questioning whether executives at A&E were aware of Robertson's staunch views on homosexuality and if so, why did they green-light him and his family to star?"


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Friday, December 20, 2013 12:32 PM

WHOZIT


...and he shoots cute little ducks.

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Friday, December 20, 2013 2:30 PM

WISHIMAY


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...and he shoots cute little ducks.



I've seriously had a problem with that from the beginning, we've enough idjits running around shooting things most days, I don't think promoting shooting more things on a global level and making it look fun and profitable will help...anything...


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Friday, December 20, 2013 3:35 PM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by Niki2:


I agree with Jong in that "this controversy may continue to grow and make that impossible (sic) for them. It's an interesting corporate and social conundrum ... what do you do when the goose that lays the golden egg also lays an occasional bomb."



I honestly wouldn't be surprised in the least if this whole thing was deliberate.

Has A&E ignored the comments he made, they would have gotten some coverage, and then been forgotten in a few days.

Now, they have pretty much everyone talking about them, with a new season premiering soon. And its virtually guaranteed at this point to get record-breaking viewership.

Then they get Phil to write a half-hearted apology, re-instate him, and it's business as usual, except they got millions and millions in free press.




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Friday, December 20, 2013 8:46 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by whozit:
...and he shoots cute little ducks.



Greg Gutfeld of The Five and Red Eye gets it!

GregGutfeld ?@greggutfeld 18 Dec

The ducks are like "these guys have been tricking us for decades, and now you're angry?" #duckophobes


LOL !!

If the Duck Dynasty does leave A&E, then it'll likely end up somewhere else, like CMT or some such. It's a huge $$ maker, and will continue to be so, whether A&E carries it or not. Seriously, if you look at the programming for A&E, Duck Dynasty was a very curious match from the start.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:55 AM

WHOZIT


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by whozit:
...and he shoots cute little ducks.



Greg Gutfeld of The Five and Red Eye gets it!

GregGutfeld ?@greggutfeld 18 Dec

The ducks are like "these guys have been tricking us for decades, and now you're angry?" #duckophobes


LOL !!

If the Duck Dynasty does leave A&E, then it'll likely end up somewhere else, like CMT or some such. It's a huge $$ maker, and will continue to be so, whether A&E carries it or not. Seriously, if you look at the programming for A&E, Duck Dynasty was a very curious match from the start.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall



A&E will make a deal with these guys FAST! This show prints money for the network.

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Sunday, December 22, 2013 10:19 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Dear Cracker Barrel Customer:

When we made the decision to remove and evaluate certain Duck Dynasty items, we offended many of our loyal customers. Our intent was to avoid offending, but that’s just what we've done.

You told us we made a mistake. And, you weren't shy about it. You wrote, you called and you took to social media to express your thoughts and feelings. You flat out told us we were wrong.

We listened.

Today, we are putting all our Duck Dynasty products back in our stores.

And, we apologize for offending you.

We respect all individuals right to express their beliefs. We certainly did not mean to have anyone think different.

We sincerely hope you will continue to be part of our Cracker Barrel family.

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Sunday, December 22, 2013 11:27 PM

CHRISISALL


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And then there's the myth about how AIDs jumped from monkeys to humans because a gay guy had sex with one.

AIDS, like climate change, is natural, and entirely unaffected by what we we humans burn or splice & test.

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Monday, December 23, 2013 8:08 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
And then there's the myth about how AIDs jumped from monkeys to humans because a gay guy had sex with one.

AIDS, like climate change, is natural, and entirely unaffected by what we we humans burn or splice & test.



I'm sure contrails are some how connected to both.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:09 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Edit - Had already been posted. My bad.

Watched the full video. * I am second *

interesting to see how the folks at A&E ( or the actual ones making the show ) were telling the Robertsons they wanted them to fight, bicker, cuss, basically to phony up some drama for the viewers consumption. Watch any " reality " show, and it's pretty clear that sort of stuff goes on a lot. Which is why I try to avoid those shows like the plague.

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Saturday, December 28, 2013 7:11 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Dear Cracker Barrel Customer:
. . . We sincerely hope you will continue to be part of our Cracker Barrel family.

A&E retracted its suspension of ‘Duck Dynasty’ star Phil Robertson with the explanation that Duck Dynasty is not a show about one man’s views. It resonates with a large audience because it is a show about money… money that A&E has come to love. -- www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/style-blog/wp/2013/12/27/phil-robertson-b
ack-on-duck-dynasty-as-ae-lifts-suspension
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, December 28, 2013 9:21 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yup...crackers.

I like Second's A&E "quote" better than the one they actually put out (like there was a chance in hell they'd be honest about it):
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The quack is back.

A&E announced Friday that it will "resume filming" the hit reality television show "Duck Dynasty" with star Phil Robertson following his indefinite suspension from the network last week for comments he made in an interview with GQ Magazine about gays, non-Christians, and African Americans. The network also promised it would work with Robertson to promote "unity, tolerance and acceptance among all people." A&E announced the decision to end Robertson's suspension with a statement provided to the Hollywood Reporter.

"Duck Dynasty is not a show about one man's views. It resonates with a large audience because it is a show about family… a family that America has come to love. As you might have seen in many episodes, they come together to reflect and pray for unity, tolerance and forgiveness. These are three values that we at A+E Networks also feel strongly about," the statement said. "So after discussions with the Robertson family, as well as consulting with numerous advocacy groups, A&E has decided to resume filming Duck Dynasty later this spring with the entire Robertson family."


In the interview, which appeared in the January issue of GQ, Robertson compared gay sex to "bestiality," implied non-Christian societies are more murderous, and suggested African-Americans were "happy" during the Jim Crow era. A&E's statement acknowledged the comments reflect Robertson's "personal views based on his own beliefs, and his own personal journey."

"While Phil’s comments made in the interview reflect his personal views based on his own beliefs, and his own personal journey, he and his family have publicly stated they regret the 'coarse language' he used and the mis-interpretation of his core beliefs based only on the article," said the statement. "He also made it clear he would 'never incite or encourage hate.' We at A+E Networks expressed our disappointment with his statements in the article, and reiterate that they are not views we hold."

Along with announcing the end of Robertson's suspension, A&E said it will launch a "national public service campaign" that will air on the network and will be dedicated to "promoting unity, tolerance and acceptance among all people." Additionally, an unnamed "A&E source" told the Hollywood Reporter that the network will work with Robertson and his family "to promote tolerance moving forward." http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/a-e-ends-duck-dynasty-star-phil-
robertson-s-suspension



Nope. Second nailed it better.


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Monday, December 30, 2013 11:37 PM

WISHIMAY


I dunno who keeps coming up with these videos but I think I love them

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2531462/You-got-marry-girls-15
-16-Duck-Dynasty-star-Phil-Robertson-wades-new-controversy-advises-men-marry-underage-girls-newly-unearthed-video.html


Phil "HEY, I was jes' kiddin' (about 10, uh maybe 5 percent of that joke...better make it zero)"

Yeah, let's hold bibles and make jokes about eloping with teenagers.... Real funny there Pervmaster.

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