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Wendy Davis admits to fuzzy facts in bio

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:10 AM

GEEZER

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Texas state Sen. Wendy Davis, who is running for governor of Texas, has admitted that some of the public details about her personal history are incomplete or inaccurate, according to a report in the Dallas Morning News.


Davis, a rising Democratic star, has touted herself as a Texas success story. She has said she was a divorced teenage mother who went from living in a mobile home, juggling low-wage jobs and going to community college to graduating from Harvard Law School.

The up-from-nowhere narrative, which emerged during an 11-hour filibuster she staged in June to oppose abortion restrictions, has been a central part of her candidacy and appeal, helping to boost her national profile and fundraising efforts.

But the Dallas Morning News reveals a more complicated narrative.

According to the paper, Davis was not a divorced working mother living in a mobile home at age 19. Instead, she was 21, and lived in a trailer for a short time. Then after a stint living with her mother, Davis moved into her own apartment.

At 24, she married Jeff Davis, a lawyer who, according to the report, helped pay for her final two years of college and cashed out his 401(k) and took out loans to help finance her Harvard law degree.

The marriage eventually ended in divorce, with Jeff Davis getting custody of the couple’s youngest daughter and Wendy Davis paying monthly child support.


She added: “Most people would identify with the fact that we tend to be defined by the struggles we came through [rather] than by the successes. And certainly for me that’s true,” she said. “When I think about who I am and how it’s reflected in the things I worked on, it comes from that place.”In an extensive interview with the paper, Davis said she had focused on general themes in her personal history, rather than being precise.

“My language should be tighter,” she said. “I’m learning about using broader, looser language. I need to be more focused on the detail.”


Davis has raised $12 million for her gubernatorial campaign, but she is trailing in her likely match-up against Republican Attorney General Greg Abbott, who has raised about $27 million.

She recently hired Joel Benenson, President Obama’s chief pollster.

A November poll by the University of Texas and the Texas Tribune showed the race within single digits — Abbott garnered 40 percent of registered voters, while Davis got 34 percent and 25 percent were undecided.

Update: Wendy Davis, who is quoted in the Dallas Morning News article, has released this statement in response to the article:

“We’re not surprised by Greg Abbott’s campaign attacks on the personal story of my life as a single mother who worked hard to get ahead. But they won’t work, because my story is the story of millions of Texas women who know the strength it takes when you’re young, alone and a mother. I’ve always been open about my life not because my story is unique, but because it isn’t.

The truth is that at age 19, I was a teenage mother living alone with my daughter in a trailer and struggling to keep us afloat on my way to a divorce. And I knew then that I was going to have to work my way up and out of that life if I was going to give my daughter a better life and a better future and that’s what I’ve done. I am proud of where I came from and I am proud of what I’ve been able to achieve through hard work and perseverance. And I guarantee you that anyone who tries to say otherwise hasn’t walked a day in my shoes.”




http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2014/01/19/wendy
-davis-admits-to-fuzzy-facts-in-bio/?hpid=z3


Interesting strategy:

First she agrees her story was not precise:

"In an extensive interview with the paper, Davis said she had focused on general themes in her personal history, rather than being precise.

“My language should be tighter,” she said. “I’m learning about using broader, looser language. I need to be more focused on the detail.”"



Then, although it was the Dallas Morning News that found out she'd "been using broader, looser language", she blames her opponent for noting that she was less than precise:

"We’re not surprised by Greg Abbott’s campaign attacks on the personal story of my life as a single mother who worked hard to get ahead"




Then she repeats the same imprecise story, slightly nuanced:

"The truth is that at age 19, I was a teenage mother living alone with my daughter in a trailer and struggling to keep us afloat on my way to a divorce."

Other politicians plagued with "Fuzzy facts" should take a lesson.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:58 AM

GEEZER

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Oh, and the Dallas Morning News story is here:

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20140118-as-wendy-da
vis-touts-life-story-in-race-for-governor-key-facts-blurred.ece



"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:06 PM

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Judges order to stay away from drugs?

Wow.

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In that order, the judge ordered that Wendy Davis “be immediately restrained from . . . using illegal drugs or consuming alcohol within 24 hours before or during the period of possession of or access to the child.”



http://www.redstate.com/2014/01/20/wendy-daviss-ex-asked-a-court-to-or
der-her-not-to-use-drugs-before-seeing-her-kids
/

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:49 PM

NIKI2

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"Fuzzy facts"--what politician doesn't? As the DallasNews article linked points out, itself:
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The basic elements of the narrative are true, but the full story of Davis’ life is more complicated, as often happens when public figures aim to define themselves. In the shorthand version that has developed, some facts have been blurred. All campaigns seek to cast their candidate in the most positive light and their opponent in less flattering terms. Using her story to inspire new voters, particularly women, youths and minorities, is a key part of the campaign’s strategy to overcome the state’s heavy Republican bent.

But likely Republican nominee Greg Abbott and his allies are expected to focus on different details to tell voters a competing story. Some will question how much of her success was her own doing, and how bad her circumstances were to start.


I see Geezer and his right-wing buddies have jumped on it big time:

"Sexist Personal Attacks Against Wendy Davis Explode"

On January 20, 2014, the Tea Party launched a vicious attack against Senator Wendy Davis on twitter. Fueled by an article which reports that minor details of Wendy Davis’s biography were erroneous, the tea party began ruthlessly attacking her on twitter. In a firestorm of misogynistic tweets, the Senator was called everything from a ‘ho’ to a ‘gold digger.’

Some of the comments:






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Sean Agnew ?@seanagnew: “I wouldnt be surprised if her ex husband paid for them.

RT @Neal_Dewing: I wouldn’t be surprised if Wendy Davis stole those sneakers.”



For a fuller picture, here are a few excerpts Geezer managed to ignore in the referenced article:
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Davis was 21, not 19, when she was divorced. A single mother working two jobs, she met Jeff Davis, a lawyer 13 years older than her, married him and had a second daughter.

When Davis got into Harvard, her ex-husband took care of their children and took out funds from his 401(k) account as well as a loan to pay for her final year there.

Jeff Davis said “I was making really good money then, well over six figures,” he said. “But when you’ve got someone at Harvard, you’ve got bills to pay, you’ve got two small kids. The economy itself was marginal. You do what you have to do, no big deal.”

Jeff Davis said the financial difficulties that Wendy Davis faced before her second marriage were real.

“A lot of what she says is true,” he said. “When she was 21, it became a little easier for her. The first 21 years were about working one, two and three jobs, trying to get through, raising a kid, driving an old Toyota pickup truck that was the smallest you could find. http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20140118-as-wendy-da
vis-touts-life-story-in-race-for-governor-key-facts-blurred.ece




And of course Geezer's highlighted the difference between 19 and 21, but wouldn't be caught dead mentioning where she came from--further from the article in question:
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There’s no question Davis struggled financially. When her parents separated, her father, Jerry Russell, started a sandwich shop and fledgling dinner theater.

“While he lived that passion, he never made money again and was never able to comply with the terms of my parents’ divorce,” she said. “What it meant for us financially is that things ... completely turned upside down, and it was a real struggle. My brothers and I went to work young — and it was out of necessity, not about wanting to have a little bit of spending money.”

She was 17 and still in high school when she moved in with her boyfriend, a construction worker named Frank Underwood. She got pregnant, married and “some time between [age] 19 and 20 was when Frank and I separated,” she said.

Davis remained in the mobile home a few months, then moved in with her mother before getting her own apartment. She got custody of her daughter, Amber, and Underwood was ordered to pay child support. Davis was 21. http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20140118-as-wendy-da
vis-touts-life-story-in-race-for-governor-key-facts-blurred.ece



Bit of a different picture, eh wot?
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The claim now is that things weren’t hard for Wendy, even though she grew up helping to support her single mother, and was later a single mother working two jobs while living in an apartment, because she got married at 24 and this man “paid” for her degree (much like a woman works to put her husband through medical school, and this is championed as supporting her man). Never mind that she contributed to the finances after she graduated, as she explained to the DMN, “I was a vibrant part of contributing to our family finances from the time I graduated to the time we separated in 2003.”

Martial assets are used to support all members of a family unit, and because everyone contributes (even if it is to work for the future, and therefor can’t be counted in dollars, like the man going to medical school), we don’t say that so-and-so paid for x like a prostitute or accuse them of stealing said education.

But the right is now acting as if Wendy Davis stole those pink tennis shoes too, because she apparently stole this Harvard education from this poor man. More at https://www.politicususa.com/2014/01/20/wendy-davis-outraises-opponent
-sexist-attacks-explode.html



I'm sure Geezer is proud of his conservative buddies' efforts to smear Davis, call her a whore, a gold digger and a thief. All this because she said she was 19, rather than 21, and because her second husband helped put her through college. Very telling.

It reveals a lot more about the Tea Party than it does about Wendy Davis. The misogynistic tweets and accusations against the Senator show just how ugly and mean spirited the right-wing really is. If I were Rap, I'd be saying something about how they must be "terrified" of Wendy Davis. Hopefully, as more people come to realize how viscious and hateful the Tea Party caucus is, more and more people will begin to reject their brand of politics. But I'm not holding my breath.


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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:02 PM

GEEZER

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Originally posted by Niki2:
I see Geezer and his right-wing buddies have jumped on it big time:



The ones at the Washington Post? That and the Dallas Morning News are all I cited. You dug up the insults from Addictinginfo (which you failed to cite, BTW, posting their comments as your own).

I note that while I posted the entire WaPo story, and just a link to the Dallas Morning News, you use only carefully selected bits of the DMN story, editing it to support only your position.



I could also ask you to cite one instance of me making a "Sexist personal attack" against Ms. Davis.

I was just pointing out her proclivity for "fuzzy facts".

You seem to be generating yet more "fuzzy facts".


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:10 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, this is good. Disgusting, but very illustrative. What Rap posted is an EXCELLENT example of what the right-wing is willing to do, and how people who only pay attention to sources like Redstate get lied to. The facts?
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RedState’s Erick Erickson Smears Wendy Davis with Bogus ‘Restraining Order’ Story

RedState chief and Fox News contributor Erick Erickson has picked up the ball that the Dallas Morning News got rolling against State Sen. and gubernatorial candidate Wendy Davis (D-TX) by publishing a bogus hit piece with the sensational headline “Wendy Davis’ Ex Asked a Court to Order Her Not to Use Drugs Before Seeing Her Kids.”

Erickson, a prominent supporter of Davis opponent Greg Abbott (R-TX) who once dubbed the blonde Davis “Abortion Barbie,” published a Temporary Restraining Order that he “obtained” by unspecified means, and in a separate story, explained it like this:
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It is her ex-husband who talked to a left-of-center Dallas reporter. It is also her ex-husband who asked a Texas District Court to issue a temporary restraining order against Wendy Davis in 2003.

In that order, the judge ordered that Wendy Davis “be immediately restrained from . . . using illegal drugs or consuming alcohol within 24 hours before or during the period of possession of or access to the child.”


A newspaper airing the sexist grievances of an ex-spouse has standards, and would not make the sick suggestion that Wendy Davis was somehow unfit to be around her children based on a Temporary Restraining Order that’s actually an automatic feature of most divorces involving children ( http://www.forbes.com/sites/jefflanders/2012/07/11/divorcing-women-her
es-what-you-need-to-know-about-atros
/). From the Divorce and Family Law in Tarrant County, Texas blog (emphasis mine):
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In Texas, our Family Code provides standard language for restraining orders that can be requested and served on parties at the beginning of a divorce. To a layperson, the language may seem harsh and even accusatory. Parties who get served with a restraining order often read a lot of details into it and make a lot of assumptions. In the court system, however, little significance is attached to it.

A very common procedure is for a party to file for a divorce and request a temporary restraining order (TRO) and an order setting hearing. In some counties in Texas, there’s an automatic order that goes into effect immediately against both parties (it’s made “mutual”), to preserve the status quo. In Tarrant County, we don’t have that immediate “standing order”, but judges routinely grant TROs and then make them mutual at the first hearing date. In other words, the TRO is effective against the party who gets served with it, beginning with the time of service, and then the same language is normally applied against both parties when the judge starts making temporary orders.

Sometimes parties served with a TRO are worried that they have been accused of a wide range of bad acts. That’s not the case. A TRO is just an example of a fairly common approach in the law that says “Don’t do these things”, without saying “I think you did these things in the past”. TROs are routine and courts don’t put any significance on them as far as proof, or even accusations, of past acts.

It’s really like everyone is starting with a clean slate and the judge says to leave things as they are and don’t do anything to harm the other party.

Bottom Line: Don’t sweat it if you get served with a TRO. Take it to your lawyer and go over the details so you can comply with it in the future. Your reputation is still intact. http://dick-price.blogspot.com/2010/07/temporary-restraining-order-tro
.html



Not if prominent Greg Abbott supporter Erick Erickson has anything to do with it.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/redstates-erick-erickson-smears-wendy-d
avis-with-bogus-restraining-order-story
/


Wanna try again?


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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


But none of the quotes Niki posted are in your post. Did you edit them out on purpose?

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:19 PM

STORYMARK


Geezer selectively editing to push an agenda?

Right wingers indulging in misogynistic character assassination?

Big surprise on both counts. Same as it ever was.






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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:19 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Nope. Pointing out all the facts you chose to omit, which paint the FULL picture, and showing where it came from and how your buddies in the right wing have run with it just as far as they could run, to the point of calling her a whore and a thief because her husband helped put her through college!

I didn't "edit" the comments from the DallasNews; you posted the link, I posted excerpts FROM that link which you didn't choose to present, which showed the full picture. You chose to quote the WaPo article, which didn't have all the facts but got what facts it did present from the DallasNews article.

How about addressing the ISSUE? Is anything I posted INACCURATE?


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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:21 PM

NIKI2

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No, Kiki...he CHOSE to post only the WaPo article, one might wonder if he did so because it DIDN'T contain all the information in the original article, which one wouldn't ever know if one didn't bother to go to the original DallasNews interview. Note that the interview itself is NOT linked anywhere in the WaPo article, despite that being from where the information came...because he was kind enough to link the ORIGINAL article as an after thought, I followed up on it.

I also didn't "dig up" "insults"...I googled to find out more about the story, the tweets came up and I found them there and other places. It's called researching a story, and by googling, it became obvious what the right wing is doing and I found specific examples.

ETA: There are plenty more examples, if anyone cared to look...

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/182791/

http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/01/conservatives-criticizing-wend
y-davis-cant-help-call-her-bad-mom/357194
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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:25 PM

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Rue and Geezer go way back, lots of animosity there.

Thanks for your input Marky. Why don't you go quietly play in the corner now.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:29 PM

1KIKI

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:41 PM

GEEZER

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Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Geezer selectively editing to push an agenda?



No. Citing the WaPo story in full, then, since WaPo didn't provide a link to the DMN, doing that.

But all you want to do is cover up for Ms. Davis' fuzzy facts.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:47 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
No, Kiki...he CHOSE to post only the WaPo article, one might wonder if he did so because it DIDN'T contain all the information in the original article, which one wouldn't ever know if one didn't bother to go to the original DallasNews interview. Note that the interview itself is NOT linked anywhere in the WaPo article, despite that being from where the information came...because he was kind enough to link the ORIGINAL article as an after thought, I followed up on it.



So which is it, Niki? I wanted to hide the source article, or I kindly provided a link to it?

Too bad you can't even keep your story straight anymore.

Quote:

I also didn't "dig up" "insults"...I googled to find out more about the story, the tweets came up and I found them there and other places. It's called researching a story, and by googling, it became obvious what the right wing is doing and I found specific examples.


Bull.

You quoted the Addictinginfo article word for word. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/01/20/vicious-twitter-attack-wendy-d
avis
/

Too bad you can't refute the WaPo story, and have to start blowing all this smoke.




"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:51 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Okay, now you're trolling, so I'm not going to feed this further. You provided some facts, and chose a story which makes it look like she lied about a lot of her bio. I posted excerpts from the ORIGINAL interview and article, with all the facts you left out. I didn't "cover up" a single, solitary thing and you know it. She misstated her age as 19 when she was divorced, living alone and raising a kid; she was 21 when the divorce was finalized. She stated she lived in a mobile home; she only lived in one for a few months. What else is "fuzzy"?

Beyond that, she DID have a difficult time in her youth, DID work two and more jobs at times, DID have to work when young because of family difficulties, etc. Her husband helped put her through college--I don't believe she ever claimed he didn't, he had no problem doing so just as millions of women have helped put their husbands through college.

Again: Did I post a single thing which is inaccurate, and please show clearly how I "covered up" anything at all?

I'll leave you to it; you are behaving more and more like a troll and I'm not going to encourage you further.


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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 2:29 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Her husband helped put her through college--I don't believe she ever claimed he didn't, he had no problem doing so just as millions of women have helped put their husbands through college.



Helped might be an understatement. From the DMN article...

Quote:

While they dated, Wendy Davis enrolled at Texas Christian University on an academic scholarship and a Pell Grant. After they married, when she was 24, they moved into a historic home in the Mistletoe Heights neighborhood of Fort Worth.

Jeff Davis paid for her final two years at TCU. “It was community resources. We paid for it together,” Wendy Davis said.

When she was accepted to Harvard Law School, Jeff Davis cashed in his 401(k) account and eventually took out a loan to pay for her final year there.

“I was making really good money then, well over six figures,” he said. “But when you’ve got someone at Harvard, you’ve got bills to pay, you’ve got two small kids. The economy itself was marginal. You do what you have to do, no big deal.”



And "My ex-husband paid my way through Harvard" is sort'a missing from her "Had to struggle on my own" story.

BTW: Real estate in Mistletoe Heights, where she moved after marrying Mr. Davis, runs about 30% above the average for Ft. Worth, so it was probably not too much of an ordeal.


Quote:

Again: Did I post a single thing which is inaccurate, and please show clearly how I "covered up" anything at all?


See above. You shade the husband paying for her final two years at TCU and all her studies at Harvard with "Her husband helped put her through college".

As for "I don't believe she ever claimed he didn't"... She doesn't mention him at all.

Here's the bio on her web site.

Quote:

Like any true Texan, Wendy Davis has taken on her share of tough fights.

Raised by a single mother, Wendy began working after school at age 14 to help support her mom and three siblings. By 19, she was on her way to becoming a single mother, working two jobs just to make ends meet.

Knowing that education was the only path to creating a better life for her young daughter, Wendy enrolled at Tarrant County Community College. After two years, she transferred to Texas Christian University. With the help of academic scholarships, student loans, and state and federal grants, Wendy became the first person in her family to earn a bachelor’s degree, graduated first in her class, and went on to Harvard Law School.


http://www.wendydavistexas.com/about/

Seems pretty fuzzy to me.



Quote:

I'll leave you to it; you are behaving more and more like a troll and I'm not going to encourage you further.



Meaning I don't agree with everything you say. Get used to it.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 2:56 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"And "My ex-husband paid my way through Harvard" is sort'a missing from her "Had to struggle on my own" story."

But your post isn't true. He HELPED pay for ONE YEAR. See the difference? Naw, nevermind. You wouldnt know an unbiased FACT if your life depended on it.

So, yeah, troll away. When you're ready to discuss FACTS let us know.

Otherwise:



RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster.

I feel so vindicated.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 4:56 PM

WHOZIT


Is "fuzzy" another way of saying "lying phoney?"

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.





RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster.

I feel so vindicated.


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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:16 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Geezer selectively editing to push an agenda?



No. Citing the WaPo story in full, then, since WaPo didn't provide a link to the DMN, doing that.

But all you want to do is cover up for Ms. Davis' fuzzy facts.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."



This is the level of derangement you've now reached - pointing out a lack of certain facts from you - is me trying to cover-up for her....

Fuckin' amazing.

And really - helping pay for a single year, is "putting her through college?"

You have reached raptard levels of assholery, now. Good job.




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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:51 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Right wingers indulging in misogynistic character assassination?



When the Right does it, it's 'misogynistic' and " the war on women ". But when the Left does it to Palin,( or Margaret Thatcher, Condi Rice, Jan Brewer, Liz Cheney,etc.. ) it's sound, reasonable, and intelligent political discussion.

Got it ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:53 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster.

I feel so vindicated.


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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:02 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Quote:

A newspaper airing the sexist grievances of an ex-spouse has standards, and would not make the sick suggestion that Wendy Davis was somehow unfit to be around her children based on a Temporary Restraining Order


There was nothing remotely " sexist " in the grievances aired.

Nothing. But to the Left, any attempt to shed light on the real life issues facing their golden calves, like Obama or Abortion Barbie Wendy, it MUST be "racism " or " sexism" !!!!




Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:11 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.





RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster.

I feel so vindicated.


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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:51 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Dumber than dumb.

Quote:

Wendy Davis is under fire following a Dallas Morning News report that found a number of factual discrepancies in the personal narrative she has made a centerpiece of her long-shot campaign for Texas governor.

Davis, who is quoted multiple times in the article, issued a statement after its publication suggesting that her Republican opponent, Greg Abbott, was behind the “attacks.”

Davis said that for Abbott, who has been a paraplegic for nearly three decades, to question her story proves that he “hasn’t walked a day in my shoes.”



http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/369104/wendy-davis-slams-parapleg
ic-opponent-hasnt-walked-day-my-shoes-andrew-stiles



Seriously, what is it about Lefties which make them so absolutely dirt STUPID and callous ??

And before anyone jumps on me claiming 'sexism' , I give you Joe BIG FUCKING DEAL Biden himself...




And let's not forget Barry himself...




Yeah, he wishes!!!


( of course, now I am going to be accused of being a RACIST , huh ? )

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.





RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster.

I feel so vindicated.


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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:53 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!




Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster.

I feel so vindicated.


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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:47 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


When the Right does it, it's 'misogynistic' and " the war on women ". But when the Left does it to Palin,( or Margaret Thatcher, Condi Rice, Jan Brewer, Liz Cheney,etc.. ) it's sound, reasonable, and intelligent political discussion.


You see guys, he can be taught!


SGG

hee, hee ;-)

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:55 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

You see guys, he can be taught!


SGG

hee, hee ;-)




Oh, we're understanding the lesson plan just fine.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:38 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

Wendy Davis is bigger than Texas now, and so are her mistakes.

If Republicans can’t keep their hold on Texas, they’ll never win back the White House. So every Davis misstep or misfire becomes early national campaign fodder for 2016.

That’s why, almost 20 years into her local political career, we are suddenly worried about exactly how long in 1982 the Democratic gubernatorial candidate and her newborn daughter lived in a Southeast Loop 820 mobile home park. And we’re parsing her Richland-Hills-to-riches story about a teen mother who divorced, remarried and became a wealthy title company lawyer.

Until now, not one of her often bitter political opponents ever asked whether she was truly a “single” teen mother in 1982 or only “separated” from her husband. Nor did anyone criticize her parenting of two daughters or air allegations from a divorce.

Now, she’s important enough for reporters to double-check facts in her still-too-vague campaign biography and for national Republican bloggers to rise up in finger-shaking condemnation.

A colleague from her City Council days agreed to talk about Davis.

Becky Haskin let me quote her by name. She is a Republican.

“What that comment really tells you is how hard Wendy works,” Haskin said Tuesday as networks went national with the “Wendy-Flubbed-Bio” story.

“She did what she had to do for her daughters,” said Haskin, a seven-year council colleague.

Haskin was on the council during Davis’ 2003 separation and 2005 divorce from title company lawyer Jeff Davis, who once represented Haskin’s east-side council district.

As far as Davis’ parenting or custodial role after the divorce, Haskin’s comments were succinct.

“If this involved a man running for office, none of this would ever come up,” she said. “It’s so sad. Every time I ran, somebody said I needed to be home with my kids. Nobody ever talks about men being responsible parents.”

Haskin has endorsed other Republicans this cycle but said she will support Davis.

“It’s fun to watch the people in this race scrambling,” Haskin said.

“They wouldn’t be talking about Wendy if she weren’t a threat.” http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/01/21/5503157/davis-and-trailergate-
part-campaign.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy




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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:49 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
And really - helping pay for a single year, is "putting her through college?"



Learn to read.

"Jeff Davis paid for her final two years at TCU. “It was community resources. We paid for it together,” Wendy Davis said.

When she was accepted to Harvard Law School, Jeff Davis cashed in his 401(k) account and eventually took out a loan to pay for her final year there."


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:06 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Is "fuzzy" another way of saying "lying phoney?"



Let's see...

The Dallas Morning News notes "...key facts blurred..." in Davis' life story.

The Washington Post finds "...Wendy Davis admits to fuzzy facts."

Davis herself admits..."“My language should be tighter. I’m learning about using broader, looser language. I need to be more focused on the detail.”

Her campaign web site still tries to give the impression she paid for her education "... With the help of academic scholarships, student loans, and state and federal grants.", completely ignoring that her then-husband not only paid for most of it (including cashing in his 401k and taking out a loan), but also took care of their children when she was at Harvard.

Admittedly, she didn't say "If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance", but...



"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:07 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Jezus, Geez, give it up. College is four years--he paid for two. Harvard lists their J.D. program as three years--he paid for one. So he paid for three of the seven years she was at university; "paid for most of it"...liar. How many women have worked to pay for their husband's law degrees/medical degrees/etc.? And in those cases, how many have then been dumped, once the husband starts making good money, for a younger woman? The ONLY reason you can be so compulsive about this is that Davis is a Democrat...tho' I notice you've FINALLY stopped insisting you're "nonpartisan".

Obsessive, much?



...I guess that should read "or very obsessed".




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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:07 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Quote:

Wendy Davis is bigger than Texas now, and so are her mistakes.
Now, she’s important enough for reporters to double-check facts in her still-too-vague campaign biography and for national Republican bloggers to rise up in finger-shaking condemnation.




Like the Dallas Morning News and Washington Post?

Spin harder, Niki.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:11 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Neither of those sources "condemned" her; they pointed out the discrepancies, and in the original article's case, also pointed out many facts you avoided with the WaPo article, like that her husband considered it "no big deal" and was making a six-figure salary at the time, that she contributed financially during their married life, that she DID have a financially-difficult childhood...no, neither one "condemned" her, so again: liar.

As the REPUBLICAN who has known her for over 7 years said, "What that comment really tells you is how hard Wendy works. She did what she had to do for her daughters. If this involved a man running for office, none of this would ever come up". SHE stated “They wouldn’t be talking about Wendy if she weren’t a threat.”

You have dived so far into Troll Country at this point, there is nothing for it but to say




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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:19 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


One of these days Geezer will post a thread criticising a Republican.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:20 PM

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America loves a winner!


For Niki , a troll is anyone she can't win an argument with or point she can't debunk.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:31 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
One of these days Geezer will post a thread criticising a Republican.


And put you and Niki out of work?

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:35 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
One of these days Geezer will post a thread criticising a Republican.



Yeah, lets all hold our breath, see how that goes...




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:44 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
And really - helping pay for a single year, is "putting her through college?"



Learn to read.

"Jeff Davis paid for her final two years at TCU. “It was community resources. We paid for it together,” Wendy Davis said.

When she was accepted to Harvard Law School, Jeff Davis cashed in his 401(k) account and eventually took out a loan to pay for her final year there."


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."



Ok, so I missed one detail. My mistake.

Now, can you explain how 3 out of 7 years is putting her through school (apparently you don't count the 4 she covered... funny that).




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:52 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Neither of those sources "condemned" her;



That's right.

And those are the only two sources I've cited, except for Ms. Davis' on website.

I understand that you want to deflect attention from Ms. Davis' fuzzy/blurred facts by accusing me of things I have never said, but the fact that she has been less than clear and honest in her backstory is pretty obvious from the WaPo and DMN stories, not to mention the somewhat less than complete story of how she got through college posted on her own website.

You can quote people saying "it's not that bad" all you want, but the facts about her selective editing of her life story speak for themselves.

And I'm really impressed with your effort to call me a troll for just repeating what I said in the first posts of what is, after all, a thread I started.

Since you're the one casting personal aspersions at me in my own thread, maybe you should reconsider who's really the troll here.




"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:01 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Ok, so I missed one detail. My mistake.

Now, can you explain how 3 out of 7 years is putting her through school (apparently you don't count the 4 she covered... funny that).



You missed another one.

Quote:

Davis paid for Russell's last two years at TCU and paid for his wife's education at Harvard Law School from 1990 to 1993.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy_Davis_(politician)

Let's see. Jeff Davis married Wendy in May 1987 (also from the wiki article). He paid for her last two years at TCU, which would be 1988 and 1989. Then he paid for her education at Harvard in 1990 to 1993.

So six out of seven years.

Looks pretty much like he paid for his wife's education to me.




"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:38 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


There is one quote which says he paid for her education from 1990-1993. GEEZER previously put up the quote "When she was accepted to Harvard Law School, Jeff Davis cashed in his 401(k) account and eventually took out a loan to pay for her final year there."

That's unclear. Googling the quote Geezer put up initially, I find it in many places, going back to the Dallas Morning News article. The quote about 1990-1993 I can only find on Wikipedia. Clarification needed.

Also, more has been clarified:
Quote:

"Wendy left home at 17, married when she was 18 and had her first daughter Amber when she was 19. She and her husband lived in a trailer, and Wendy continued to live there with Amber after they were separated."

"As a single mother at age 19, she often struggled to make ends meet," the statement continued. "Wendy filed for divorce when she was 20 and she and Amber lived for a short time with her mother. The divorce became final when she was 21." http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/20/report-wendy-davis-lif
e-story-more-complicated-than-compelling-narrative/?hpt=hp_t2




In other words, they separated before she filed for divorce, she filed for divorce when she was 20, and the divorce was final when she was 21. This could go on and on forever, if Geezer had his way. The FACT is she wasn't absolutely clear about when she separated and became a "single mother"; if they were separated before she filed for divorce, at 20, then she could well have been living alone with her daughter when she was 19, making her a single mother.

It's all so amazingly absurd, given she definitely WAS a single mother at 20 when she filed for divorce, and the right wing is all hung up on her not being officially "divorced" until she was 21, and Geezer's obsession over the details. If it was worth my time, I could find really blatant lies about their background from Republicans and Democrats throughout history; that Geezer is so obsessively focused on political press releases which always try to make candidates look as good as possible just isn't worth anyone's time.

Some of the facts in her press releases weren't absolutely accurate, nobody's arguing that. If that makes her some kind of "habitual liar", do we really need to go back and examine politicians' honesty in their claims about their background? We could start with the Republican darling, Darrell Issa, who spouted some real whoppers:
Quote:

Issa appears to have lied about his background. The congressman, for example, claimed to receive the "highest possible" ratings during his Army career, despite the fact that at one point he "received unsatisfactory conduct and efficiency ratings and was transferred to a supply depot." Issa also claimed to have provided security for President Nixon in 1971, which wasn't true, and a national Entrepreneur of the Year award Issa claimed to have won, but didn't.

Issa has twice sought statewide office in California, but his scandalous past derailed both bids.

That past, apparently, does not bother House Republicans, who recently handed Issa broad oversight authority and subpoena power. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_01/027579.ph
p




Or
Quote:

Disgraced Rep. Wes Cooley (R-Ore.) pleaded innocent today to charges that he lied in two 1994 state election guides when he said he served in the U.S. military in Korea. Cooley dropped his re-election bid this year amid controversy over accusations that he lied about his background. Each of the counts against Cooley carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $100,000 fine. He faces a separate probe into whether he lied about the date of his marriage, so that his wife could continue to collect benefits as a Marine widow. http://cgi.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/9612/16/briefs/



Or, Geezer so loves the WaPo, remember Marco Rubio's "fudge" of the facts?
Quote:

During his rise to political prominence, Sen. Marco Rubio frequently repeated a compelling version of his family’s history that had special resonance in South Florida. He was the “son of exiles,” he told audiences, Cuban Americans forced off their beloved island after “a thug,” Fidel Castro, took power.

But a review of documents — including naturalization papers and other official records — reveals that the Florida Republican’s account embellishes the facts. The documents show that Rubio’s parents came to the United States and were admitted for permanent residence more than two-and-a-half years before Castro’s forces overthrew the Cuban government and took power on New Year’s Day 1959. Details at http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/marco-rubios-compelling-family-
story-embellishes-facts-documents-show/2011/10/20/gIQAaVHD1L_story.html?hpid=z3




No, unlike Geezer and Rap, I do NOT want to threadjack this into a discussion of someone from the right. My point is that what Davis' publicity team did was incorrect--HOW incorrect we'd have to really dig to determine--but absolutely inconsequential compared to many, many other politicians on both left and right (in Issa's case, someone actually IN POWER), and not deserving of the frothing-at-the-mouth that is currently occurring.

Beyond that, I'll let Geezer play with himself, he's doing such a good job of jerking off to minutiae.


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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:49 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
No, unlike Geezer and Rap, I do NOT want to threadjack this into a discussion of someone from the right.


That you could type this with a stright face says alot about you, IMHO.

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 4:45 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
It's all so amazingly absurd, given she definitely WAS a single mother at 20 when she filed for divorce, and the right wing is all hung up on her not being officially "divorced" until she was 21, and Geezer's obsession over the details...



My obsession over the details?

Oh, my.

Look up the thread, Niki, and see who has been obsessing over the details. It ain't me.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 7:06 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Actually, Niki has been focusing on bogus details, harping on pure minutia, and ignoring facts.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Thursday, January 23, 2014 2:13 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


So true. I once worked with a divorce attorney who had a woman client who helped her husband become a doctor, he dumped her so fast that she sued for divorce and struggled to make ends meet.

Bravo for Wendy Davis, she picked herself up by her bootstraps. Funny how conservatives talk a good game about personal responsibility, and when someone achieves what she has, they call her all kinds of names.

The Right has been drinking heavily from the fountain of Double Standard.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Jezus, Geez, give it up. College is four years--he paid for two. Harvard lists their J.D. program as three years--he paid for one. So he paid for three of the seven years she was at university; "paid for most of it"...liar. How many women have worked to pay for their husband's law degrees/medical degrees/etc.? And in those cases, how many have then been dumped, once the husband starts making good money, for a younger woman? The ONLY reason you can be so compulsive about this is that Davis is a Democrat...tho' I notice you've FINALLY stopped insisting you're "nonpartisan".

Obsessive, much?



...I guess that should read "or very obsessed".





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Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:39 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Quote:

Bravo for Wendy Davis, she picked herself up by her bootstraps. Funny how conservatives talk a good game about personal responsibility, and when someone achieves what she has, they call her all kinds of names .


Like 'liar' ? It applies.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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