New subcompact cars, great on gas and totally unsafe. by whozit

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New subcompact cars, great on gas and totally unsafe.

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UPDATED: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 13:15
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Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:21 PM

WHOZIT

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/01/22/subcompact-cars-fare-poorly-
in-new-crash-tests/?intemp=features

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Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:56 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Did they test the "Smart" car?
Betcha that thing folds like origami, and it doesn't have anywhere to fold TO before it starts squashing people.

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Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:40 PM

ELVISCHRIST

FREEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMM!

What happened to not letting the big bad government tell you what to drive or what's "safe" enough for you?

Shouldn't "libertarians" be rushing to buy these deathtraps in the name of liberty?

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Sunday, January 26, 2014 5:47 PM

WISHIMAY

Those of us with two brain cells to rub together pretty much knew that.

Jus' one pic of coal truck VS. rice burner will do it for ya...

The stories around here are awful, people buy these things for their kids to save gas money and then have no kids. Irresponsible as hell to send 'em off being way more likely to crash in something waay less likely to protect 'em.

I wouldn't even let my kid ride a bike around here (not that she can anyway). We live in a school zone that people drag race in. Too much stupid, not enough space. Most of this state doesn't have sidewalks...

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Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I know someone who has a smart car. I remembered him saying it had a roll cage. It does seem to have something like it: Inspired by racecar roll cages, the reinforced high-strength steel tridion safety cell ... http://www.smartusa.com/safety/

But it's not matter of mere size. From the IIHS website http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings many small cars got the IIHS safety award, but very few mid-sized cars did. If a compact can get a good safety rating but a mid-sized can't, I'd think it would be less about size and more a matter of engineering. Nor is it a result of being an import v domestic. So once again, it's about getting half a story (or less) from FUX 'News' that panders to our prejudices instead of informing us.:

mid-sized luxury/ near luxury cars cars receiving the IIHS safety award:
2014 Acura TL
2014 Infiniti Q50
Applies only to optional front crash prevention models.
2014 Lincoln MKZ
Applies only to optional front crash prevention models.
2014 Volvo S60

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Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:30 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

looking into it further, the smart car wasn't tested. And the cars that failed did so largely because of poor leg and foot protection. other protection was often quite good.

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/iihs-small-overlap-crash-test-for-minic
ars/#photo-2166673

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Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:07 PM

WHOZIT

SMART cars are not subcompact cars, they're "Minicars."

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Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:34 PM

ELVISCHRIST

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I know someone who has a smart car. I remembered him saying it had a roll cage. It does seem to have something like it: Inspired by racecar roll cages, the reinforced high-strength steel tridion safety cell ... http://www.smartusa.com/safety/

But it's not matter of mere size. From the IIHS website http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings many small cars got the IIHS safety award, but very few mid-sized cars did. If a compact can get a good safety rating but a mid-sized can't, I'd think it would be less about size and more a matter of engineering. Nor is it a result of being an import v domestic. So once again, it's about getting half a story (or less) from FUX 'News' that panders to our prejudices instead of informing us.:

small cars receiving the IIHS safety award:
2014 Dodge Dart
2014 Ford Focus
2014 Honda Civic 2-door
2014 Honda Civic 4-door
Applies only to optional front crash prevention models.
2014 Hyundai Elantra
Applies only to sedan models.
2014 Mazda 3
Applies only to optional front crash prevention models. Applies only to vehicles built after October 2013.
hatchback | sedan
2014 Scion tC
2014 Subaru Impreza
Does not apply to WRX models.
2014 Subaru XV Crosstrek
2014 Toyota Prius
Applies only to optional front crash prevention models. Applies only to vehicles built after November 2013.

mid-sized luxury/ near luxury cars cars receiving the IIHS safety award:
2014 Acura TL
2014 Infiniti Q50
Applies only to optional front crash prevention models.
2014 Lincoln MKZ
Applies only to optional front crash prevention models.
2014 Volvo S60

That makes me feel a bit better. The Mazda3 I just ordered makes the "good" list. :)

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Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:15 PM

FREMDFIRMA

You do realize this is gamesmanship though ?

See, they more or less let so-called-american* automakers write these tests, and they're always writing and revising them so as to rig the game against foreign* automakers, which is what this is all about - picking a specific test (often not reality based) in order to make competitors look unsafe, or even block imports of certain models - as opposed to, yanno, actual competition and building cars that aren't total shit.

-Frem

*So-called-american, as in "North" american made, which means slapped together in Mexico by damn near slave labor from cheap chinese parts forged out of crummy metal I wouldn't trust to make shopping carts....

*You DO know many "foreign" vehicles are made right here, yes ?
Hell Nissan trucks are made in Indiana.

So, erm, who's the "dirty foreigner" here, ehe ?

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