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Wellpoint: More Obamacare Sign-Ups Than Expected

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Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:25 PM

NIKI2

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WellPoint, a major health insurance company reported Wednesday that its Obamacare sign-ups were higher than it had projected.

Joseph Swedish, CEO, said the company had received 500,000 applications through HealthCare.gov and its state-operated counterparts. He said the number was "ahead of our most recent projections." He added that applications had spiked in December and the company expects another surge before the March 31 deadline to enroll in coverage for 2014.

“We do feel good about what we’ve seen thus far on the exchanges,” Swedish said. “While it is early, we are encouraged by the level of applications we’ve received."

The majority of those applicants were not previously enrolled with WellPoint, Swedish said. As for the demographic make-up of those enrollees, Swedish said that the numbers were "tracking closely with expectations." Swedish said that WellPoint had priced its products expecting its Obamacare enrollees to be older than its existing customers.

"We entered 2014 with a strong foundation, and we look forward to the opportunity to serve a growing part of the marketplace this year and into the future," Swedish said. ( http://seekingalpha.com/article/1976661-wellpoint-management-discusses
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Friday, January 31, 2014 9:25 AM

GEEZER

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This might be a first - spin of spin.

First, you have the spin of Wellpoint encouraging it's investors on a quarterly status call, and telling them everything is fine and no reason to worry.

Then you have TPM ( http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/wellpoint-obamacare-sign-ups ) spinning that spin by taking sentence fragments out of the Wellpoint call, with no numbers behind them, to tell the ACA fans that everything is fine with the ACA enrollments and there's no reason to worry.

Also interesting that you can't actually get to Mr. Swedish's full discussion of ACA on the Wellpoint site without a login, so there's no way to see what's left out or taken out of context.




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Friday, January 31, 2014 9:43 AM

NIKI2

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So the fact that he gave their investors good news has GOT to be all lies...right. Couldn't be any other way: got it.


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Friday, January 31, 2014 11:52 AM

STORYMARK


Well, look who you're talking to.




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Friday, January 31, 2014 2:05 PM

NIKI2

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Yeah, silly me...ANY health insurance company saying ANYTHING positive, even if just to its investors, has GOT to be lies and "spin", of course, even if there are absolutely no facts to back up the claim that any of it is false; no, it's obviously not possible any of it could be, y'know, TRUE!

Shees...how absolutely brain-barriered do some people have to be...scary way to live...

He didn't like the source, but no doubt neither a local Indianapolis paper nor Bloomberg will be any more "factual" to him:
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Indianapolis-based health benefits giant WellPoint hopes to be a big winner under the Affordable Care Act, and early results are promising, company officials said Wednesday.

Top executives told investors that WellPoint is gaining more customers than expected as people sign up for ­insurance on the health exchanges ­created by the law. And the new customers’ health status appears to be in line with expectations.

That means the cost to provide them health coverage will match company projections. And it reduces the chances that the company will raise rates significantly next year.

“We do feel good about what we’ve seen thus far on the exchanges,” WellPoint CEO Joseph R. Swedish told ­investors in a conference call Wednesday. “It’s still early, but our preliminary data is certainly reinforcing our confidence in the strategy that we’ve implemented.”

WellPoint, which already had the most customers on the individual market, is hoping to grab the biggest share of the estimated 7 million Americans who may buy insurance through the exchanges.

It is selling plans in 14 states, including Indiana, where it already covers the majority of those who buy insurance on their own instead of getting it through an employer or government program.

Of the 500,000 people who have ­applied for individual policies with the company, about 80 percent are new to WellPoint. The company doesn’t know, however, how many previously lacked insurance or are just switching providers.

About two-thirds of the applicants have been eligible for federal subsidies to lower their premiums.

Data are still coming in on the demographics of those buying insurance. Insurers need a mix of healthy and sick patients in each market to keep rates from rising too much.

In setting prices for 2014, insurers had to guess the mix of customers in a changed market, while also trying to offer competitive rates through a system that would make it much easier for cus­tomers to compare plans and costs.

WellPoint expected that it would lose some of its healthier customers while gaining sicker ones. The company priced its plans that are sold off and on the exchange accordingly, even if that meant it didn’t have the lowest price in some markets, said Chief Financial Officer Wayne Deveydt.

The average age of the new customers is close to what WellPoint projected. Other early data on customer demographics, plans chosen most often and pharmaceutical bills submitted are in line with projections.

WellPoint also expects to benefit from the ACA’s expansion of Medicaid. In 2012, it purchased Amerigroup Corp., which specializes in providing Medicaid coverage for states.

Deveydt said the early numbers on Medicaid enrollment are encouraging and probably larger than many had expected. http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2014/01/29/wellpoint-sees-
obamacare-strategy-paying-off/5037725
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WellPoint Inc. (WLP), the second-biggest U.S. medical insurer, has added 500,000 members since Obamacare enrollment began and said the system’s early stumbles haven’t dimmed profit estimates, boosting the company’s shares.

While the new members tend to be older and sicker than current enrollees, WellPoint priced its plans accordingly and isn’t backing off projected profit margins, Chief Executive Officer Joseph Swedish told analysts today on a conference call.

While it’s still early, enrollment so far is “very consistent with our expectations,” Swedish said on the call. “We do feel good about what we’ve seen thus far in the exchanges.”

The Indianapolis-based insurer, which runs Blue Cross plans in 14 states, reiterated a profit forecast of more than $8 a share this year. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-29/wellpoint-profit-slips-as-ins
urer-unloads-1-800-contacts-unit.html




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Friday, January 31, 2014 5:04 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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Originally posted by Niki2:



From the articles you cited...

Quote:

Of the 500,000 people who have ­applied for individual policies with the company, about 80 percent are new to WellPoint. The company doesn’t know, however, how many previously lacked insurance or are just switching providers.

About two-thirds of the applicants have been eligible for federal subsidies to lower their premiums.

Data are still coming in on the demographics of those buying insurance. Insurers need a mix of healthy and sick patients in each market to keep rates from rising too much.



And...

Quote:

While the new members tend to be older and sicker than current enrollees, WellPoint priced its plans accordingly and isn’t backing off projected profit margins, Chief Executive Officer Joseph Swedish told analysts today on a conference call.




So they don't know how many previously uninsured folks are signing up, and how many are just moving from somewhere else, possibly because their previous plans were cancelled.

Also, they're signing up older and sicker folks, so they will be cranking up prices to insure their projected profit margin.

Yes. Good news indeed. If you're an insurance company CEO or investor.


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Friday, January 31, 2014 5:17 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:


So they don't know how many previously uninsured folks are signing up, and how many are just moving from somewhere else, possibly because their previous plans were cancelled.



Yeah, no one claimed to. You're shifting goalposts. It's simple, this points out a surge in sign-ups - you tried to throw doubt on this, when that's shot down, you shift to "But why?" so as to avoid acknowledged anything. Cute.


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Yes. Good news indeed. If you're an insurance company CEO or investor.



Good news for investors in a report FOR investors?? The nerve!




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