It's not " evidence of rape mentality " ! Not in New Zealand ! Just call it 'Cultural Differences! ' by AURaptor

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It's not " evidence of rape mentality " ! Not in New Zealand ! Just call it 'Cultural Differences! '

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Saturday, February 8, 2014 8:13 PM

America loves a winner!

( Actually, THIS is the very definition of "rape mentality ". )

Muslim Refugee Gropes Women, Blames Cultural Differences, Avoids Jail

Women in Port Hill, New Zealand can feel confident because their legal system values the Port Hill Groper’s standing in the Muslim community more than their safety.

The family of the man accused of being “The Port Hills Groper” fears he’ll be ostracised by their Muslim community if his identity is revealed, a court was told today.

Name suppression was continued for the 63-year-old today after a judge decided he may have psychological issues if he was found guilty of grabbing, groping, and licking 15 women on the running trails.

I’m sure any psychological issues that he has can be cured with some saltpeter. And what was the Muslim refugee’s excuse for the attacks?

He blamed his offending on a misunderstanding of cultural differences.

Good old cultural differences. And who are we to judge his groping culture?

The accused, who cannot speak English and uses an interpreter at court, put the offending down to a “cultural” misunderstanding, saying he was trying to be “friendly” around Christmas time.

Police documents show he lay in wait on several tracks across the Port Hills, preying on woman walking and jogging by.

On one occasion he called out to a woman jogging on the Rapaki Track and, when she slowed down to listen, grabbed her buttocks and said “lovely lovely”.

Muslim culture is just so… friendly.

The judge had adjourned his decision after becoming concerned that the man could go on with his alleged offending if his identity and his charges were not revealed.

Defence lawyer Moana Cole told the court that the man’s family had taken a decision not to tell their small, local community which has strong ties with the Islamic community.

Judge MacAskill said no part of the community could be given special treatment because of its cultural or religious beliefs.

But insanity prevailed.

But after his family gave him assurances that would not be happening, and since police said the high amount of publicity meant no more complainers would likely come forward, he granted name suppression.

What if he begins groping women somewhere else? That’s a relevant question considering that the Port Hills Groper isn’t going to jail.

A Middle Eastern refugee who grabbed, groped and licked female joggers on a popular running route in Christchurch has today avoided jail and been granted permanent name suppression.

The man, dubbed the ‘Port Hills Groper’, pleaded guilty last November to eight charges of indecent assault.

When the 64-year-old appeared before Christchurch District Court for sentencing today one of his targets read out her victim impact statement.

She said she was “frightened, humiliated and eventually angry” after the assault.

Like the police, the woman argued the offender should be “named and shamed” because he was a “predator and not a frail old man”.

Defence counsel Moana Cole told the court she didn’t think jail was appropriate because her client’s crimes were at the low end of the scale, he was a first-time offender and not offended since.

If he did it multiple times over several years, it’s not exactly an isolated incident.

And no case involving Muslim sexual abuse would be complete without “cultural ambiguities” about attacking women.

“Cultural ambiguities”, highlighted in a psychologist’s report before the courts, may have led to the man’s bizarre actions, Judge Jane Farish believed.

She sentenced him to 300 hours of community work and 12 months’ supervision.

It shouldn’t be too surprising because Judge Jane Farish is probably the worst judge on earth.

A visibly upset judge today told a teenager convicted of sexual violation: “If I had my way I would release you today, but I can’t.”

Christchurch District Court Judge Jane Farish spoke of the youth, naivety, and the good family background of Maia Crawford Rongonui who had attacked a young Australian woman tourist in a dark Christchurch street.

“If I had it within my power today I would release you to your family,” the judge said.

Instead, she jailed the 19-year-old for four years after he was convicted by a jury of assaulting the woman with intent to commit rape, and sexually violating her by unlawful sexual connection.

Judge Farish had earlier told crown prosecutor Ruth Thomas that she believed Rongonui needed to “get back to his family and back to a job”.

“Keeping a young man of 19 (in prison) for a lengthy period of time is really only going to ruin him, particularly when he has such good family support.”

Judge Farish said she believed Rongonui had been hopeful of a sexual encounter, and something snapped when the woman rebuffed him.

He punched her and kicked her as well as trying to remove her pants. The woman fought back and was able to escape, but semen from Rongonui was found on her clothing.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/muslim-refugee-gropes-wom
en-blames-cultural-differences-avoids-jail/

Yep. That's right. This judge is a woman ! Had she been a man instead, and given so much leniency towards these dirt bags, why, some feminist groups might be VERY upset !

Maybe ??

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Sunday, February 9, 2014 4:07 AM

AGENTROUKA

Thaaaaaat is deeply disturbing.

If he's afraid his own muslim culture will ostracise him for this, I think the claim of cultural differences is pretty much debunked. I don't get this decision.

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Sunday, February 9, 2014 4:13 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

This is about a number of judgements jumbled together, not one.

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Sunday, February 9, 2014 7:23 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
This is about a number of judgements jumbled together, not one.

Which makes it all that much worse.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, February 9, 2014 4:23 PM

FREMDFIRMA

While certain behavior is itself reprehensible, I think it's rather pathetically obvious Rappys issue isn't with the behavior so much as who engages, since if this sleaze had different cultural and political affiliations he'd be all over himself defending them.

Lots of people use religion as excuse for behavior no belief should find acceptable, it's nothing new, and not at all restricted to judeo-christian or abrahamic religions either, tis a real issue in paganism as well which mostly goes unaddressed.

Of course, we all know *HIS* issue isn't with the behavior, exactly....

-F

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Sunday, February 9, 2014 4:35 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

I love how some ignore the fact that a WOMAN judge is all but dismissing the violent sexual acts ( can they be called anything else ? ) against women, for no other reason than "cultural differences ".

They just didn't know any better.

Oh, but let's hate on the messenger here, huh ?

Quote:
Of course, we all know *HIS* issue isn't with the behavior , exactly...

And yes, I'm enjoying the slaying of 2 birds w/ 1 stone with this story. Very satisfying.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, February 9, 2014 8:36 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Quote:
Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

While certain behavior is itself reprehensible, I think it's rather pathetically obvious Rappys issue isn't with the behavior so much as who engages, since if this sleaze had different cultural and political affiliations he'd be all over himself defending them.

Lots of people use religion as excuse for behavior no belief should find acceptable, it's nothing new, and not at all restricted to judeo-christian or abrahamic religions either, tis a real issue in paganism as well which mostly goes unaddressed.

Of course, we all know *HIS* issue isn't with the behavior, exactly....

-F

Of course, he is making a point.

As for the judgements, its damned hard to 'pass judgement' when you dont know the facts surrounding the case. That's why it is and always should eb the role of judges to determine sentencing. In sentencing they should consider the likelihood of reoffending, threat to community and victim impact, but also factors like age and health should be taken into consideration and whether any other course of action might be more appropriate.

I'm all for protecting people from those who choose to use predatory behaviour, but I'm not big on jail sentencing unless absolutely necessary. Locking people up should be last resort.

So don't know the details of these cases. Defence lawyers will use any card to lessen a sentence, including the cultural one. That's just how they operate, don't mean that I agree with some of the cards they play.

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Monday, February 10, 2014 10:30 AM

BYTEMITE

Creepy old men are everywhere and of all creeds and races. The only thing unusual about this case is the example of political correctness gone mad, and therefore is less so much a wholesale condemnation of a whole group of people, despite SOME of them trying to claim rape mentality as cultural.

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Monday, February 10, 2014 10:36 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Shocking, that the legal systems in Muslim countries don't see things in very much the same way with " foreigners " who break THEIR laws.

Oh wait. No, it isn't.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Monday, February 10, 2014 10:40 AM

BYTEMITE

Eh, if anything that just shows there's hypocrisy all around.

I guarantee there are places that would treat an infraction by a Muslim foreigner much worse than they would something done by a non-Muslim citizen. If that cheers you up any.

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Monday, February 10, 2014 10:49 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Eh, if anything that just shows there's hypocrisy all around.

I guarantee there are places that would treat an infraction by a Muslim foreigner much worse than they would something done by a non-Muslim citizen. If that cheers you up any.

Oh goodness, it really does! You've made my Monday!

/sarcasm.

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Monday, February 10, 2014 11:27 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
all but dismissing the violent sexual acts

Er, you seem to have gotten the wrong idea out of the story- not a first for you. The crime was not all but dismissed, it was the sentencing at issue. And the man WAS sentenced.

However, the appeal to "cultural differences"... bogus. EVEN IF cultural differences were truly the issue (and AGENTR showed how that is not likely, given that even the offender's community would have ostracized him), when you live in a nation you agree to abide by its laws and customs.

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Monday, February 10, 2014 5:20 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
all but dismissing the violent sexual acts
Er, you seem to have gotten the wrong idea out of the story- not a first for you. The crime was not all but dismissed, it was the sentencing at issue. And the man WAS sentenced.

Funny that you'd accuse others of getting the wrong idea. Clearly, not a first for you. I never said the judge dismissed the CASE. It's that she glossed over the facts, so she could give her PC " sentence"

“ If I had it within my power today I would release you to your family,”
the judge said.

Instead, she jailed the 19-year-old for four years after he was convicted by a jury of assaulting the woman with intent to commit rape, and sexually violating her by unlawful sexual connection.

Quote:

However, the appeal to "cultural differences"... bogus. EVEN IF cultural differences were truly the issue (and AGENTR showed how that is not likely, given that even the offender's community would have ostracized him), when you live in a nation you agree to abide by its laws and customs.

Which is pretty much exactly MY point, all along.

Welcome to the party.

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