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Former college football player Michael Sam is gay.

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Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:10 PM

AURAPTOR

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Former Missouri Tigers defensive end and 2014 NFL draft entrant Michael Sam announced Sunday in interviews with ESPN and The New York Times that he is gay.

Chris Connelly of ESPN's Outside The Lines and The New York Times' John Branch were first to report the news of this landmark development:

"I understand how big this is," Sam said, per Connelly. "It's a big deal. No one has done this before. And it's kind of a nervous process, but I know what I want to be ... I want to be a football player in the NFL."

Sam says that his experiences at the Senior Bowl shaped his decision to make the announcement:

"I didn't realize how many people actually knew, and I was afraid that someone would tell or leak something out about me," he said. "I want to own my truth. ... No one else should tell my story but me."

He had already confided in a few close friends, Sam recalled, and had dated a fellow athlete who was not a football player -- so while coming out to his Mizzou teammates last year was a key moment, it came almost as an afterthought, during preseason training camp.

"Coaches just wanted to know a little about ourselves, our majors, where we're from, and something that no one knows about you," Sam said. "And I used that opportunity just to tell them that I was gay. And their reaction was like, 'Michael Sam finally told us.' "

Asked what that moment felt like, Sam said, "I was kind of scared, even though they already knew. Just to see their reaction was awesome. They supported me from Day One. I couldn't have better teammates. ... I'm telling you what: I wouldn't have the strength to do this today if I didn't know how much support they'd given me this past semester."


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1953935-michael-sam-publicly-announ
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Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:22 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


I look forward to the day when these kinds of news items are no longer newsworthy

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Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:23 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Now when this isn't news, that'll be a good day.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Monday, February 10, 2014 12:09 AM

FREMDFIRMA



I concur, Magons and Geeze.

That said, I gotta hand it to the Canadians, this bit rolled me out the chair.



Sports in general have always been a little homoerotic.

-F

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Monday, February 10, 2014 10:47 AM

AURAPTOR

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Problem with this guy is that he falls between the looked for requirements or standards which teams are interested in for a particular position on the Defense. He's a bit too small to be a Defensive End, but not quite small enough to be an Outside linebacker. He's what is referred to as a 'tweener', as his skill set and stats don't put him squarely in this or that position.

He'd probably be picked in the 4th round or so, had he not 'come out'. How he'll be picked now, or if at all, will be interesting to see.

Contrary to what is PC, most of the blacks who make up the rosters of NFL teams are NOT cool with homosexuality, or sharing a locker room w/ a gay guy. They may SAY they are, in front of a camera, but off camera, it's a different story.

It'll be interesting to see where he's picked in the draft, and by which team.

*ETA - And while not all NFL locker rooms are the same ( see Miami ), there's one thing which IS universal... none of them like it when a player gets lots of media attention thrown his way for things he's done OFF the playing field, which has zero to do w/ making the team better. Tim Tebow is a fine example. All that focus on him, when he was an average ( or less than ) NFL player, really rubbed guys the wrong way ( sorry, bad pun ) Sam says he'll not give any more interviews until after the draft.

We shall see.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Monday, February 10, 2014 10:29 PM

JONGSSTRAW


He's a team leader with a lot of character. Fans aren't gonna care a jot about his personal life if he plays great in the NFL or even the CFL. Teammates who have a problem with him will get over it or be traded.

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Monday, February 10, 2014 10:39 PM

CHRISISALL


Ability should trump prejudice.

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Monday, February 10, 2014 10:39 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
He's a team leader with a lot of character. Fans aren't gonna care a jot about his personal life if he plays great in the NFL or even the CFL. Teammates who have a problem with him will get over it or be traded.


We'll see. For the NFL, he's not , by any stretch, a Jackie Robinson. He'll likely never make All-Pro, or lead the team in tackles. At least, it doesn't look like that, at this point.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Monday, February 10, 2014 10:50 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Well you never really know how college players will perform in the NFL. So many #1 picks have washed out just as we've seen lots of late round picks excel. Terry Bradshaw and Tom Brady weren't on anyone's must-have list when they were drafted.

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Saturday, February 15, 2014 11:12 AM

AURAPTOR

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... and apparently, so is Ellen Page.


Ellen Page, who won the hearts of moviegoers as the pregnant teenager in the 2007 film "Juno," has come out as gay.

The 26-year-old told a Las Vegas audience Friday, "I'm here today because I am gay." She was speaking to a conference of counselors who work with teenagers who identify as lesbian, gay, transgender, bisexual or queer.

A video of her speech was posted on the Los Angeles Times website.

Page says she suffered for years because she was afraid to come out. She told the audience, "I'm standing here today, with all of you, on the other side of all that pain."

Page received an Oscar nomination for her performance in "Juno." She also had major roles in "X-Men: The Last Stand" in 2006 and "Inception" in 2010.










Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:25 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dancing With The Stars seems to be discriminatory this year. They are forcing Michael Sam to dance with a female "partner" when clearly he should be allowed to have one of the other gay dancers.

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Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:35 PM

WHOZIT


He's like Kim K. He's famous for being famous...and for liking iky man sex.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 12:51 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Why is this even a story?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 1:20 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Why is the even a story?



Because he can't play football @ the nfl level. He's not good enough on talent alone, which is how players are assessed in that league.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 1:25 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Former college football player Michael Sam is gay.


So, Michael Sam being gay is NOT what you were posting about?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 1:33 AM

AURAPTOR

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You really this starved for attention ?

Sad.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 1:43 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Q - Why is this even a story?
A - Because he can't play football @ the nfl level. He's not good enough on talent alone, which is how players are assessed in that league.

Former college football player Michael Sam is gay.


So, Michael Sam being gay is NOT what you were posting about?
And, why can't you stay ot?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 9:08 AM

AURAPTOR

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The story changed, your dimness, over time since the original post was made.

Would you prefer a new thread were started for each change in Sam's career and social antics, or can we just keep all the nonsense of this man's lust for fame wrapped up in one neat thread ?

Oh,sorry, YOU don't get a vote on the matter.


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Friday, March 27, 2015 5:41 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Dancing With The Stars seems to be discriminatory this year. They are forcing Michael Sam to dance with a female "partner" when clearly he should be allowed to have one of the other gay dancers.

Nobody seems to be addressing the discrimination being applied by DWTS here.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 10:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Everyone else was ot until you posted again. You must be a sorry bugger if you can't keep your own posts ot in your own thread.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Friday, March 27, 2015 10:59 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Wrong, yet again.

JSF revived the thread, to talk about the Dancing w/the Stars appearance.

See, you can't even get something so simple and basic as THAT right.

Quote:
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.


Sagan died almost 20 years ago.

He's still dead, and he's still wrong.

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Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:15 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Former college football player Michael Sam is STILL gay. And you're STILL off topic.



SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:49 AM

AURAPTOR

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my thread, my rules.

And if Sam wanted to make his gayness an issue, as he did, then I or anyone get to comment on his gay football career, or his gay dancing.

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Saturday, March 28, 2015 5:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Former college football player Michael Sam is STILL gay. And you're STILL off topic.

Why are the looney lefty lying lemming libtards not supporting Sam and his right to not be discriminated against? Are they saying it is now open season on Sam's gayness?

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Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Look what crawled up from UNDER the sewers.
Making as little sense as always. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58924



SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:12 PM

AURAPTOR

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Sad how you searched your little heart out for something you think is relevant, and it simply isn't.


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Sunday, March 29, 2015 3:29 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I spent no time at all searching for your little gem. Unlike you, I know how to use a computer.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, March 29, 2015 8:51 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I spent no time at all searching for your little gem. Unlike you, I know how to use a computer.



Yeah, you're obsessed. I get that. I really do.

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Sunday, March 29, 2015 9:47 AM

WHOZIT


Is Sam still gay? It's been awhile.

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Sunday, March 29, 2015 3:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
Is Sam still gay? It's been awhile.

The gays on DWTS that he's not allowed to dance with seem to think so.

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Sunday, March 29, 2015 3:16 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
Is Sam still gay? It's been awhile.

The gays on DWTS that he's not allowed to dance with seem to think so.


He's spoken for, right? Got engaged, last I heard.

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Monday, March 30, 2015 9:04 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
Is Sam still gay? It's been awhile.

The gays on DWTS that he's not allowed to dance with seem to think so.


He's spoken for, right? Got engaged, last I heard.

The married or engaged heteros on DWTS are not forced to dance with their own gender as partners.
Why do they forced him to partner with the gender opposite his preference?

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Monday, March 30, 2015 10:55 PM

JONGSSTRAW


It's dancing, not dating.

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Monday, March 30, 2015 10:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, you're obsessed. I get that. I really do.


Look what crawled up from UNDER the sewers.
Making as little sense as always. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58924

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:19 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
It's dancing, not dating.

And?

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Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:24 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
It's dancing, not dating.

And?

And?

Whatevers.

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Wednesday, April 1, 2015 6:35 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
It's dancing, not dating.

And?

And?

Whatevers.

He can't be allowed to dance with the gender he prefers? You insist upon forcing him to pretend that his preferred partner is opposite gender? You insist upon forcing him to stay in the closet while in public, during public displays, while exercising known courting rituals (aka seduction) like dancing? Even when he has elsewhere come out of the closet, you still insist upon him hiding this fact when the greater public can view him, thus pressuring him to keep his dancing feet in the closet?
You detect no discrimination here?

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Wednesday, April 1, 2015 6:57 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Does he have a preference which gender he dances with? If he doesn't care - what's the problem?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Monday, April 6, 2015 6:04 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Does he have a preference which gender he dances with? If he doesn't care - what's the problem?

You choose to force him to pretend to court a member of the gender which he has openly stated is not his preference? He has already stated his gender preference, and pretending that forcing him to engage in a courting ritual with a gender he has already stated is not his preference is prejudicial, insensitive, and discriminatory of you.

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Monday, April 6, 2015 6:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


to force - it's only force if he's opposed, if not, there is no force

you choose to ignore that he has a voice and a preference OF DANCE PARTNER which may not conform to your agenda
which sex he DANCES with may or may not reflect which sex he prefers for sex

have you asked him? has he stated a preference of DANCE partner?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Monday, April 6, 2015 6:12 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:
You choose to force him to pretend to court a member of the gender which he has openly stated is not his preference?



Force him to pretend ? ... to court ?

ROFLMAO !

Is that what that show is about ? Imaginary courting of dancers and stars, in WWF style scripted hook ups ?

What next, wife swapping ?


* chortle *

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