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In case anyone's interested, Venezuela is waging war on its students...
Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:41 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA: Yeah, and cross-compare the sources and see what they're saying, what matches and what doesn't - this'll soon show you that 90% of American "news" is the same fucking copy/pasted propaganda press release repeated a million times without so much as a grammar and spelling check, much less a fact check. That said, here's an introduction to the fuckhead the American Black Bag Boys wanna prop up, so that we can loot their country unhindered in exchange for keeping his ass in power. Meet Venezuela's Opposition Leader: Front Man for the Oligarchs Sidelined by Hugo Chavez http://www.alternet.org/world/meet-venezuelas-opposition-leader?paging=off¤t_page=1
Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:So not exactly "Fair and Balanced", eh? I'm not claiming that anyone's media is fair and balanced.
Quote:So not exactly "Fair and Balanced", eh?
Saturday, February 22, 2014 11:00 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Saturday, February 22, 2014 11:35 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:When you cite them as support for your points, while stating that opposing views are, in effect, all propaganda, seems you put more faith in what's pretty obviously an organ of the Venezuelan government rather than in CNN or other international media.
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Saturday, February 22, 2014 12:44 PM
Quote:Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro told a CNN reporting team Friday that it could continue reporting in the South American country, a day after the government revoked or denied press credentials for CNN journalists. Earlier, Maduro had said he would expel CNN if it did not "rectify" its coverage of anti-government protests. During a news conference aired live on state-run TV, Maduro reversed his early position, saying CNN could stay. Following the more than two-hour news conference, officials told CNN that its journalists would be issued credentials to report within the country. It was a bizarre end to the news conference that saw Maduro call out CNN, Fox News and other U.S.-based media, claiming they encouraged opposition forces against the government.
Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: [I put my faith in wherever the information is the most credible.
Quote:Now, as far as twisted reporting and an example of the media trying to correct past (let's be generous in our characterization) errors, here's another prime example: VENEZUELA: SORTING FACT FROM FICTION http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/21/world/americas/venezuela-fact-from-fiction/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 The article then goes on to supply a number of photos from Venezuela- a bleeding screaming child being treated in hospital, a young woman protester in a serious chokehold, a phalanx of riot police shooting rubber bullets point-blank at a protester who's holding his hands up. Now, here's the kicker: The most dramatic photos, the ones just guaranteed to get your blood boiling, WERE NOT EVEN OF VENEZUELA. They were from places as far away as Syria, tweeted or in other ways passed on by "the opposition" as examples of the horrible violence being visited on them by that brutal dictator, Maduro. If you think that only the Venezuelan government has an agenda and is capable of lying, then you're in serious need of remedial logic 101.
Quote:CRITICAL THINKING: Learn to use it.
Sunday, February 23, 2014 9:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Here perhaps is the REASON why CNN reported on those erroneously attributed photos: Hmmm... CNN has it's reporters' credentials revoked for misreporting the news. Then it places a story correcting photos mis-attributed to Venezuela. Then it gets its credentials back. And this, according to CNN, is "bizarre".
Sunday, February 23, 2014 9:55 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:00 PM
Quote:And conflating the tweets of protestors with what the professional media is showing, and then using evil CNN's story on the misposting of pictures of tweeters as an example of the media as a whole misrepresenting events, has to be up for strawman of the year.
Quote:Boy. You really are snowed by Maduro & Co., aren't you?
Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:07 PM
Sunday, February 23, 2014 3:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: If you read my post CAREFULLY- something you have a really hard time doing!- you'll see that I didn't say that CNN lied. It was the opposition I was implicating.
Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:42 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: So the media is the opposition?
Monday, February 24, 2014 1:01 PM
Monday, February 24, 2014 4:49 PM
REAVERFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: So, this is how i read the situation: No one had a successful action against Chavez (though they tried) because he was a personally EXTREMELY popular president - especially with the vast majority who were previously dying of poverty. Venezuela has two ongoing problems - violence, and difficulty getting grocery items conveniently (though there is no actual malnutrition in the country - on the whole, Venezuelans are better nourished than their SA counterparts). Maduro otoh is not as popular, and so the vultures are circling. Several foreign rich businessmen are supporting wealthy students at private universities to instigate riots. These men have been associated with US efforts to overthrow Venezuela's DEMOCRATICALLY elected government in the past. The US government may also be involved in reduced purchases of Venezuelan oil in order to break the economy. The west is misrepresenting and misreporting the events to make the riots look like a large popular uprising, and to make the government look brutally repressive. YEP, SAME OLD SHIT.
Monday, February 24, 2014 11:21 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Friday, May 3, 2019 10:09 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Friday, May 3, 2019 1:11 PM
Quote: So, this is how i read the situation: No one had a successful action against Chavez (though they tried) because he was a personally EXTREMELY popular president - especially with the vast majority who were previously dying of poverty. Venezuela has two ongoing problems - violence, and difficulty getting grocery items conveniently (though there is no actual malnutrition in the country - on the whole, Venezuelans are better nourished than their SA counterparts). Maduro otoh is not as popular, and so the vultures are circling. Several foreign rich businessmen are supporting wealthy students at private universities to instigate riots. These men have been associated with US efforts to overthrow Venezuela's DEMOCRATICALLY elected government in the past. The US government may also be involved in reduced purchases of Venezuelan oil in order to break the economy. The west is misrepresenting and misreporting the events to make the riots look like a large popular uprising, and to make the government look brutally repressive. YEP, SAME OLD SHIT. - KIK Yup. That's about it. International capital HATES the idea that anyone but them should benefit from Venezuela's oil.- REAVERBOT
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