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Missing Malaysian Airline flight.
Sunday, March 9, 2014 9:09 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote: KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia - Military radar indicates that the missing Boeing 777 jet may have turned back before vanishing, Malaysia's air force chief said Sunday as authorities were investigating up to four passengers with suspicious identifications. Air force chief Rodzali Daud didn't say which direction the plane veered when it apparently went off course, or how long it flew in that direction. The revelations add to the uncertainties surrounding the final minutes of flight MH370, which was carrying 239 people when it lost contact with ground controllers somewhere between Malaysia and Vietnam after leaving Kuala Lumpur early Saturday morning for Beijing. A massive international sea search has so far turned up no trace of the plane, which lost contact with the ground when the weather was fine, the plane was already cruising and the pilots didn't send a distress signal - unusual circumstance for a modern jetliner operated by a professional airline to crash.
Sunday, March 9, 2014 1:33 PM
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GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Curious. An actual real world event, the mysterious disappearance of an airliner , and no replies ? Really?
Sunday, March 9, 2014 2:10 PM
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OONJERAH
Sunday, March 9, 2014 11:58 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, March 10, 2014 6:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: What's there to comment on? It's a shame ... and? Or are we supposed to get all googly-eyed and crazy over NO CURRENT INFORMATION, like you?
Monday, March 10, 2014 6:57 AM
Monday, March 10, 2014 7:26 AM
REAVERFAN
Monday, March 10, 2014 7:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: How do you know they perished? Any corpses?
Monday, March 10, 2014 7:59 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Monday, March 10, 2014 8:11 AM
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NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Monday, March 10, 2014 4:57 PM
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WHOZIT
Monday, March 10, 2014 6:26 PM
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JONGSSTRAW
Monday, March 10, 2014 6:43 PM
Monday, March 10, 2014 6:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Never sat through that movie long enough to know what in the hell a Langolier was.
Quote:Wish there was a Gilligan's Island ending to this story, but real life don't work that way.
Monday, March 10, 2014 7:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: The plane must have flown through a temporal rift. The only question is will the people be gobbled up by the Langoliers, or will they be smart enough to figure out how to get back to the present. If so, the plane could appear at any moment.
Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:08 AM
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Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: What's there to comment on? It's a shame ... and? Or are we supposed to get all googly-eyed and crazy over NO CURRENT INFORMATION, like you? How was I or anyone " googly-eyed " ? I simply stated the facts, that a plane with 239 on board was ( and still is ) missing. And under unusual circumstances, for a modern airliner. And why are you lumping anyone not politically affiliated w/ your view into one group. I posted the topic, and never made light of the matter. Others did, as is often the case w/ human nature, to interject humor so as to avoid the unsettling ( or horrific ) alternative. The likelihood of a happy ending is less and less, but as was so bluntly stated before, we don't really know. So yes, we're left to speculate. A mature, reasonable person would be more concerned for those on board and their friends / families than fret over scoring internet brownie points on some message board. I guess 1kiki doesn't fall into that category.
Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:21 PM
Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: Meanwhile, re: missing Malaysia flight MH370 ... I just read that missing passengers' cell phones are still Ringable. This is good. ====================== :> Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” ~Mark Twain
Wednesday, March 12, 2014 2:12 AM
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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: There have been complaints that the Malaysian investigation over the missing plane has been inconsistent, uncoordinated and lacking in leadership. Are we dealing w/ sheer incompetence, or do they really know something and aren't saying?
Wednesday, March 12, 2014 1:53 PM
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Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Meanwhile, after 5 days authorities still cannot give any relevant information about the two Iranians on board with stolen passports. One way tickets to Beijing paid for with cash? Uh huh.
Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:02 AM
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Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I'm wondering, if the WSJ report is being misreported, or they go their info wrong, in whether the engines DID actually transmit data, or just that they were designed to do so.
Quote:Also, per the mobile phones still being active... how is it that no one has done a check on this ? If there's a signal, can't they find the location? Seems like step 1 for any investigation, unless there's some asinine privacy laws or restrictions which is keeping " the authorities " from doing so. What a freaking tragic joke, if the one time civilian phones AREN'T tracked , is when they're actually needed to be ,in a life or death situation.
Quote:I bet they know, and simply aren't saying. Either way, there should be SOME word on this matter.
Quote:And how does one fly a 777 over the subcontinent of India, and not get detected ? I'm wondering if that 2,200 miles includes taking the feet wet route around the southern coast of India.
Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:00 PM
Friday, March 14, 2014 3:19 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Sabotage Suspected on Missing Jet, as Search Area Expands Malaysian officials investigating the disappearance of Flight MH370 say evidence from military radar-tracking suggests it was deliberately flown off-course. A report indicated Friday that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 might have been deliberately flown off course when it vanished without a trace almost a week ago, as the search radius for the missing jet expanded once again amid conflicting reports and dashed hopes. Reuters, citing unnamed sources familiar with the investigation into the disappearance, reports that military radar-tracking evidence suggests the Boeing 777 was deliberately flown across the Malay peninsula toward the Andaman Islands, a chain of isles between the Andaman Sea and the Bay of Bengal. An unidentified aircraft was apparently spotted following a route between navigational waypoints, indicating the pilot had considerable aviation training. The revelation has renewed questions about whether foul play was involved in the disappearance of a plane that was carrying 239 people from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, and for which authorities have scoured the ocean for days to no avail. “What we can say is we are looking at sabotage, with hijack still on the cards,” one source, a senior Malaysian police official, told Reuters. Malaysian officials said Thursday that two communications systems on board the aircraft—the data reporting system and the transponder transmitting location and altitude—shut down 14 minutes apart. Some analysts claim this points toward a deliberate attempt to conceal the aircraft’s movements. But retired Colonel J. F. Josephs, an aviation accident investigator, said “this seems speculative and somewhat of a reach. “You could choose to shut down both systems simultaneously, and it could just as well have been caused by an electrical failure,” he told TIME. The U.S. Navy destroyer USS Kidd is currently cruising toward the Indian Ocean, the opposite direction of the ill-fated flight’s original route. Malaysian authorities have requested the vessel’s help there after it emerged that “pings” may have been picked up from the plane’s service data system up to five hours after its transponder emitted its last signal. “Certain ships and aircraft stay in the east, and some go to the west,” Cmdr. William Marks of the U.S. 7th Fleet told CNN on Thursday. “We’re moving to the west.” Mark said moving into the third largest ocean in the world will be like going “from a chess board to a football field.” “It’s a completely new game,” he said. “Now we have to come up with a new strategy, new tactics.” Josephs, who took part in locating the Air France flight 447 that crashed into the Atlantic in 2009, called it a “daunting task.” “Even if you’re in the right grid coordinates, there are so many variables that affect the probability of detection,” he said. “The illumination, the sea stack, weather, salt. You could be able to see for millions of miles at an altitude, but at the surface you’re relying on acoustics equipment and looking through binoculars for hours at the time.” Air traffic controllers lost contact with the plane, carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew, at about 1:30 a.m. Saturday. The jetliner had just reached cruising altitude of almost 35,000 feet and was located at the mouth of the Gulf of Thailand. No distress call was received. Twelve nations have become involved in a search and rescue operation involving scores of ships and aircraft, scouring an expanding area on both sides of the Malay Peninsula. While U.S. officials told CNN that the Indian Ocean is a likely crash site, other facts continue to deepen the mystery. An electrical failure of the magnitude Josephs suggested would be a somewhat catastrophic scenario, which would likely also have impacted the pilots navigating capability. “Some sort of failure that takes out communications would probably also take out navigation since the electronics are based in the same place,” said Bruce Rodger, an aviation consultant at Aero Consulting Experts, a company that provide litigators with expert material. “The pilots would have been inundated with smoke , have their masks on, basically flying blind until the gas runs out.” However, Rodger added, a fire like that would probably take out other systems too, making it unlikely for the aircraft to stay airborne for as long as five hours. But any drastic deceleration of the aircraft would have set off the emergency beacon, which never occurred. “It’s unusual that the emergency beacon didn’t go off,” Rodger said. “It could mean that the plane didn’t crash, it didn’t end up in the water or that an explosion completely annihilated the device.” Both Josephs and Rodger said that with significant knowledge, it would be possible to shut down both the data reporting system and the transponder manually. A person savvy enough to do that would “absolutely” be able to fly to another location without being detected as well. “It’s all very odd, but I’m not here to speculate,” Rodger said. "The aircraft will turn up eventually. Give it less than a week, and then we’ll be on our way to getting the answers.” http://time.com/24546/missing-jet-hunt-turns-to-indian-ocean-sources-say-comms-cut-on-purpose/
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Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: My my! I wonder what Fariq did with the passengers. ====================== :> Body by Fisher, brains by Mattel.
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