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How The Truth Is Made At Russia Today

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Wednesday, April 2, 2014 5:04 PM

Once I found Serenity

The Soviet Union collapsed because no one wanted to live their.(FACT) They build a wall to keep people in.(FACT) Corruption may run rampant in the Ukraine but Russia can not preach to anyone. Putin is worth an estimated 40 to 50 billion. Where did he get it? Our president makes only a few million or so while in office. No way does he make billions. So again I ask, where did the little general get the money? The Soviet Union was built by invading and controlling countries ( keeping them )as they fought Germany in WW11.No one can defend what they are doing in Ukraine and George. It isn't the Ukrainians' Russia's neighbors are worried about.(FACT)It is Russia. I would like the Ukraine to emerge strong on behalf of it's people, and not support a dictator in Russia.

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Wednesday, April 2, 2014 5:46 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity

Yeah, ReaverFan

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Wednesday, April 2, 2014 9:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I think the questions are, has it stopped happening, and has it become less important.

Same goes for the dire situation in Syria, which has also dropped out of the news.

So, what HAS been in the news that's so important we shouldn't be kept up to date on these?

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/

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Do you see a pattern here?

"To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."

-- Thomas Paine, The American Crisis No. V (1776)

OONJERAH
We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.

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Thursday, April 3, 2014 2:47 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

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Do you see a pattern here?

I see a couple:

1. That people like light-hearted, entertaining news, and news media is happy to give it to them (nothing shocking about that, that's the free market)
2. That if a situation is in a state of fairly steady equilibrium the story eventually loses people's attention, and news media stop reporting on it (until the equilibrium changes).

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Thursday, April 3, 2014 10:47 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

And so you agree with me. For many reasons, the 'news' is not actual news.

Way back when was a journalist called I.F. Stone. Back then, he was very skeptical of official sources, and how they might manipulate the media by allowing, or withholding, 'access'. So he never fell in with the White House press corps, or official sources. And in fact, if you look at the 'news' today, it consists of government press releases, official sources, unnamed sources, and media press releases from other organizations like universities, police departments, agencies, etc. You'd have to translate the titles to your country, but how many 'news' items begin --- The White house released information today ..., the US jobs report came out today ..., economic indicators were released today ..., the police have apprehended ..., a major study in the journal ...? Even war correspondents are highly contained - embedded, and foreign correspondents are 'allowed' access only by the grace of the powers that be. How much real reporting - investigative reporting - is there? How much local, knowledgeable reporting do we get about foreign events? What you see are 'reporters' helicoptered in using the locale as a backdrop, reading a pre-packaged script before they get helicoptered off to the next location.

All this goes hand in hand with the rise of media as a profit-driven business. The more reputable, established major commercial stations USED to think of news as a loss-center that was, nevertheless, a public duty. After all, it's expensive to do investigative reporting, to have independent correspondents all around the globe - including and especially in war zones, and to maintain foreign sources.
But that hasn't been true starting during the 70's. At that time there was a major drive to cut costs and improve revenue in the news department. To turn it from a loss-center to profit-center. So several things happened concurrently.
One was a move to make the news cheaper to get. To that end war correspondents and local sources were eliminated, and replaced by official pronouncements, press-releases, newswires, and more recently OTHER NEWS BROADCASTS. The last especially leads to a peculiar 'echo chamber' where you will hear newscasts about OTHER NEWSCASTS. As reported by FOX News today ...
Then there's the drive toward sensationalism. It's I think easily understandable so i won't go into it.
Another effort went in to making the news palatable, to keep people watching, in order to improve the sale price of ad time. There's been a lot of market research about what makes people change the channel or keep watching. Newscasts today are highly scripted, from the lead-in to the sign-off, a carefully balanced experience of gravity, levity, reassurance, and heartwarming anecdote. Plus novelty. Can't forget the novelty. Old news, like Fukushima, isn't 'interesting' even though it's still happening and more consequential every day.
And you have to not create cognitive dissonance in your audience. It makes people very uncomfortable to have their world-views challenged. And so, what you see in the news is often simply ... yourself.

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Friday, April 4, 2014 12:01 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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The Soviet Union collapsed because no one wanted to live their.(FACT)

Uh, no. Also, it's "there", not "their".

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They build a wall to keep people in.(FACT)

Wrong. The wall surrounded west Berlin, it didn't separate the Soviet Union from the west. You need to learn history, or geography, or something. Start here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall

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Corruption may run rampant in the Ukraine but Russia can not preach to anyone. Putin is worth an estimated 40 to 50 billion.

Says who? Links please? Bet you can't find any data to back THAT up!

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Our president makes only a few million or so while in office. No way does he make billions.

Nope, our politicians work cheap. They give TRILLIONS to their wealthy friends and call it "policy"!

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So again I ask, where did the little general get the money?

So I ask you again: Links please?

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The Soviet Union was built by invading and controlling countries ( keeping them )as they fought Germany in WW11.

Because the USA never invaded and occupied anybody?

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No one can defend what they are doing in Ukraine and George.

The people in Crimea and S Ossetia can.

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It isn't the Ukrainians' Russia's neighbors are worried about.(FACT)It is Russia.

I have no idea what that sentence means, it's garbled. Please re-state.

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I would like the Ukraine to emerge strong on behalf of it's people, and not support a dictator in Russia.

And not be bled dry by the IMF either.

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Friday, April 4, 2014 11:24 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

OOC MIKER- I find it curious that a very new-to-RWED character should appear at the end of a thread which touches on very deeply-held prejudices. So I wonder... whose sock puppet are you?

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