Benghazi. Bad intel, or a constructed lie ? by AURaptor

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Benghazi. Bad intel, or a constructed lie ?

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Thursday, May 1, 2014 9:08 PM

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Took a FOI request for the most transparent administration in the history of the planet to finally turn over the facts.

Ben Rhodes at center of plan to whitewash White House on Benghazi

We finally know who orchestrated the phony story that an internet video was behind the Benghazi attack.

Judicial Watch announced today that on April 18, 2014, it obtained 41 new Benghazi-related State Department documents. They include a newly declassified email showing then-White House Deputy Strategic Communications Adviser Ben Rhodes and other Obama administration public relations officials attempting to orchestrate a campaign to “reinforce” President Obama and to portray the Benghazi consulate terrorist attack as being “rooted in an Internet video, and not a failure of policy.” Other documents show that State Department officials initially described the incident as an “attack” a possible kidnap attempt.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/04/ben_rhodes_at_center_of_pl
an_to_whitewash_white_house_on_benghazi.html

Totally unrelated...

CBS Says Network President Didn't Influence Coverage Of Brother's Benghazi Email

NEW YORK -- CBS News President David Rhodes was not involved in editorial discussions on Wednesday about whether “CBS Evening News” should cover a newly released email written by his brother Ben Rhodes, the White House deputy national security adviser, according to a network spokesperson.

The email, written by Rhodes shortly after the deadly 2012 attack in Benghazi, Libya, showed how the White House played a role in shaping the talking points Susan Rice, then the ambassador to the United Nations, was to use in interviews.

Fox News and other conservative outlets have long claimed that the Benghazi attack hasn’t received enough media attention, even as the subject’s been hashed out numerous times in White House briefing room and journalists have covered the story consistently. The latest email disclosure has only added to the long-running critique that the media is covering up for a Democratic White House.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/01/david-rhodes-benghazi-ben-rho
des-white-house_n_5248063.html

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Thursday, May 1, 2014 9:17 PM

Benghazi was a FUBAR, okay? The White house is full of them ALL THE TIME NO MATTER THE PRESIDENT.
At least that particular mistake didn't start a fucking needless war & help screw up our economy.
Now let's move to REALLY important issues like Barry drinking milk straight from the carton or Bill's blowjob...

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Thursday, May 1, 2014 9:22 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Benghazi was a FUBAR, okay? The White house is full of them ALL THE TIME NO MATTER THE PRESIDENT.
At least that particular mistake didn't start a fucking needless war & help screw up our economy.
Now let's move to REALLY important issues like Barry drinking milk straight from the carton or Bill's blowjob...

Please, catch up on current events. New e-mails have been released which completely, totally and unequivocally prove the White House, and Hillary

L I E D.

Does none of that matter to you, at all ?

You're not a complete imbecile. The only other viable option I can imagine as to why you want to forget and move on is that you're a blithering Obama supporter.

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Thursday, May 1, 2014 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
the White House, and Hillary
L I E D.

And that makes them different than any other Admin covering their ass for a mistake exactly HOW?

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You're not a complete imbecile.

You don't know me well enough to make that call.

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you're a blithering Obama supporter.

I'm gonna bounce a wave down to ya one last time here, Obama is a LESS BAD President than GWB- doesn't mean I'm a blind supporter. He's makin' life both better AND worse for us, willin' or unwillin'.

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Thursday, May 1, 2014 10:31 PM

And so it begins anew with an e-mail! John Boehner's reaction was swift ....

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Thursday, May 1, 2014 10:38 PM

And Jongs nails it. Yep.

Still, NO ONE seems to care the Obama drinks milk straight out of the carton.
Ewweue. All those shared germs...

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Thursday, May 1, 2014 10:54 PM

I like this one.

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Thursday, May 1, 2014 11:33 PM

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And that makes them different than any other Admin covering their ass for a mistake exactly HOW?

There's actual proof here ?

And it was no " mistake ", Obama bot.

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Thursday, May 1, 2014 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And it was no " mistake ", Obama bot.

Glad you know this for a FACT, factboy.

Wanna have another go at yellowcake? Saddam enabling 9-11? Trickle Down Reaganomics? Flat Earth theory? Flintstone car fuel efficiency?

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Thursday, May 1, 2014 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And it was no " mistake ", Obama bot.
Glad you know this for a FACT, factboy.

Wanna have another go at yellowcake? Saddam enabling 9-11? Trickle Down Reaganomics? Flat Earth theory? Flintstone car fuel efficiency?

OK, I'm not getting into this one, but I gotta say CHRISISALL way ta go.
I especially love the one about the Flintstone car fuel efficiency.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 12:23 AM

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I especially love the one about the Flintstone car fuel efficiency.

Actually, I think I erred there, they were pretty energy efficient (and aerobic).

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Friday, May 2, 2014 6:47 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And it was no " mistake ", Obama bot.
Glad you know this for a FACT, factboy.

Wanna have another go at yellowcake? Saddam enabling 9-11? Trickle Down Reaganomics? Flat Earth theory? Flintstone car fuel efficiency?

That you to justify the incompetence and inaction of this admin by looking at other unrelated matters only proves to me that you know I'm right here. How ? You're avoiding even TRYING to deal w/ the issue!

I love how you also interject real and phony issues together, in an attempt to confuse the discussion. Flat Earth ?

You HONESTLY don't think this admin faked the video story in order to cover for Obama's incompetence , which was right before the election ? Hell, this e-mail all but states " We're gonna go w/ the phony YouTube video story, just to make Obama look good ", and then they sent Susan Rice out on 5 Sunday a.m. t.v. shows, where she did exactly what the e-mail said to do, she pushed the video.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 7:33 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
That you to justify the incompetence and inaction of this admin

I don't 'justify' anything you asshole. Again, reading comprehension. You need to read all the pesky little words. They fucked up. Then they covered their ass. It's what all admins do ALL THE TIME. Excuse the Hell out of me for not getting as worked up of a couple of needless deaths due to incompetence as I do over a couple of thousand and more.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 7:36 AM

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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You HONESTLY don't think this admin faked the video story in order to cover for Obama's incompetence , which was right before the election ? Hell, this e-mail all but states " We're gonna go w/ the phony YouTube video story, just to make Obama look good ", and then they sent Susan Rice out on 5 Sunday a.m. t.v. shows, where she did exactly what the e-mail said to do, she pushed the video.

Yeah, we honestly know all of that. Sucks when you don't have any push back, makes you sound like that Kramer character, "but, but, but..." It's high school tom foolery at the WH, check. It's as embarrassing as Bush, except Bush lied better. For a while longer.

This has zero to do w/ Bush. You want to show where Bush lied, where there was such an overt attempt to cover up and lie, by all means, start your own gorram thread. This isn't about any of that, other than what THIS administration has done and CONTINUES to do.

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The real, only reason we still have Benghazi is so Fox has a needling point. What the hell will they do when Obama is gone? Rush? What the hell is he going to say in every sentence to make those righties jump and growl like angry chimps?

So, no matter what the truth, if it hurts your dear and fluffy leader, it should be ignored ?

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Friday, May 2, 2014 7:39 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
That you to justify the incompetence and inaction of this admin
I don't 'justify' anything you asshole. Again, reading comprehension. You need to read all the pesky little words. They fucked up. Then they covered their ass. It's what all admins do ALL THE TIME. Excuse the Hell out of me for not getting as worked up of a couple of needless deaths due to incompetence as I do over a couple of thousand and more.

Really? You're gonna go w/ the "they all do it, so we should just let it slide " angle ?

Oh, and Candy Crowley was flat wrong to take sides with Obama over his having called the attack a terrorist attack. He didn't Not for weeks after the fact. He sure as hell did not call it an attack 'days' after, like he claimed.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Really? You're gonna go w/ the "they all do it, so we should just let it slide " angle ?

Again, READING COMPREHENSION, you dolt. I'd let nothing slide given my druthers, but in this real world of BIG problems, I'm just not gonna get worked up over ALL the less BIG stuff*. Knock yourself out w/it though.

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Oh, and Candy Crowley was flat wrong to take sides with Obama over his having called the attack a terrorist attack. He didn't Not for weeks after the fact. He sure as hell

*YAWN*

* In 2002 Bush blocked the EPA from issuing a warning about asbestos. Dumb idea. But see? Small stuff. Maybe a couple of people died from that lack of warning. I'm really not gonna make every little detail my life's work, as you're doing with the Barrymeister.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 10:08 AM

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You're letting it slide. Obama lies, and you're cool with it.

Lie of the year - if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

Coward

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing "

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Friday, May 2, 2014 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're letting it slide. Obama lies, and you're cool with it.

READING COMPREHENSION, poop brain. I'm NOT cool with it, but I have no authority to demand an answer for every stupid slip up.
Don't want this kind of bullshit? Move to a dimension where there IS no Government.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're letting it slide. Obama lies, and you're cool with it.

Lie of the year - if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

Coward

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing "

There is no smoking gun here with Benghazi and I believe this only plays to the right. It also makes many of us at the center pissed. With all the wasted votes" over 50 " to repeal the ACA, and all the time wasted on this, it just continues to show the Republicans look like

when it comes to trying the help the middle class and the rest recover from all our jobs going to China and other places.

Let's really take a look at this in its true scope. Iraq, 40 to 50 thousand dead and wounded Americans. By the time the last Iraqi vet leaves this earth The cost of the war will have exceeded 2 trillion dollars. That money would have stabilized Social Security for a hundred years.

In the hearing leading into the war a top general stated it would cost several hundred billion dollars, and we would need to invade with three hundred thousand troops. He was replaced and Donald Rumsfeld testified it would cost about twenty billion and take much less troops. Also it would all be over very quickly. I won't mention all the false testimony perpetrated by the Bush administration at the U.N..

Benghazi 5 dead yes a tragedy.

I think Iraq is probably worth the time reviewing to remind the country what morons the Republicans are. Yes someone will suggest that the Dem's. voted to go but I would remind them that the Dem's. voted to give Bush the power to choose to invade after he exhausted all other options. He just headed in at that point. Yes again, it was a cowardly vote but the country wanted blood and they feared losing reelection.

This crap with Benghazi is a witch hunt to destroy Hillary Clinton and nothing more. Once again the Republicans go after a Clinton, and one can only speculate but I think this will again bite the Republicans in the

.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 11:05 AM

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I think this will as bite the Republicans in the Ass.

Used to be Democrats were the best at putting things in motion that bit them in the ass. Republicans have that #1 spot now.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by MIKER:
I think this will as bite the Republicans in the Ass.
Used to be Democrats were the best at putting things in motion that bit them in the ass. Republicans have that #1 spot now.

No argument here.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 11:28 AM

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The latest email is the literal definition of the term " smoking gun " w/ regards to Benghazi .

Anyone who denies that isn't being honest, or is flat out ignorant .

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Friday, May 2, 2014 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The latest email is the literal definition of the term " smoking gun " w/ regards to Benghazi .

It proves nothing. Just a right wing falsification. More NeoCon lies. Limbaugh-level crap.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 11:35 AM

Faux keeps spinning, and rappy dances to their tune. Nothing to see here, again.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The latest email is the literal definition of the term " smoking gun " w/ regards to Benghazi .

Anyone who denies that isn't being honest, or is flat out ignorant .

It is not a smoking gun. It is a divining rod which points out who is a far right Republican.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The latest email is the literal definition of the term " smoking gun " w/ regards to Benghazi .

It proves nothing. Just a right wing falsification. More NeoCon lies. Limbaugh-level crap.

It proves everything this admin has claimed is a complete & total lie.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It proves everything this admin has claimed is a complete & total lie.

Sorry. Try again. Steal something from someone clever.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Faux keeps spinning, and rappy dances to their tune. Nothing to see here, again.

This very well may end Obama & Hillary's time in the White House.

That ain't nothing.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The latest email is the literal definition of the term " smoking gun " w/ regards to Benghazi .

It proves nothing. Just a right wing falsification. More NeoCon lies. Limbaugh-level crap.

It proves everything this admin has claimed is a complete & total lie.

Ah nuts.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're letting it slide. Obama lies, and you're cool with it.

READING COMPREHENSION, poop brain.

After all these years, why would you expect any better?

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, May 2, 2014 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The latest email is the literal definition of the term " smoking gun " w/ regards to Benghazi .

It proves nothing. Just a right wing falsification. More NeoCon lies. Limbaugh-level crap.

It proves everything this admin has claimed is a complete & total lie.

Yet you don't apply the same metric to ANY Republican admin. Hilarious.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, May 2, 2014 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're letting it slide. Obama lies, and you're cool with it.

READING COMPREHENSION, poop brain.

After all these years, why would you expect any better?

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

It would be absolutely amazing to be in a room with all of you. Wow, that would be great. Let's do a family picnic, I'm in.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 12:23 PM

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It would be absolutely amazing to be in a room with all of you. Wow, that would be great. Let's do a family picnic, I'm in.

Matter & anti-matter don't mix well...

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Friday, May 2, 2014 1:34 PM

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Yet you don't apply the same metric to ANY Republican admin. Hilarious.

Storybook - make your claim, don't just make empty charges.

If you CAN, then do it. If not, stfu.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 1:45 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Storybook - make your claim, don't just make empty charges.

If you CAN, then do it. If not, stfu.

He's done it before, you've deflected/redacted/back-pedalled/avoided/fabricated stuff to make you never wrong.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 1:56 PM

CBS's WH Correspondent Major Garrett got into a heated exchange with Carney this week, yet CBS did not even mention Benghazi on their news broadcast. That tells you everything you need to know about this. The Obama-loving Press simply will not cover the story, and if they don't cover it ... there is no story.

Republicans can't do a damn thing either, at least not until they can win the Senate. The House can prepare the charges, but it's the Senate that votes to impeach. In theory, both Obama and Holder could be impeached and removed from office. Hillary's presidential quest would be over and done. Some minor WH and State Dept. officials would be convicted and sent to prison for lying to Congress, conspiracy, and obstruction of justice.

But that's all just a pipe dream. I don't believe Republicans have the balls to do any of it even if they could. And that's all I have to say about this.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 2:00 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
CBS's WH Correspondent Major Garrett got into a heated exchange with Carney this week, yet CBS did not even mention Benghazi on their news broadcast. That tells you everything you need to know about this. The Obama-loving Press simply will not cover the story, and if they don't cover it ... there is no story.

Republicans can't do a damn thing either, at least not until they can win the Senate. The House can prepare the charges, but it's the Senate that votes to impeach. In theory, both Obama and Holder could be impeached and removed from office. Hillary's presidential quest would be over and done. Some minor WH and State Dept. officials would be convicted and sent to prison for lying to Congress, conspiracy, and obstruction of justice.

But that's all just a pipe dream. I don't believe Republicans have the balls to do any of it even if they could. And that's all I have to say about this.

There is no story, not really. After a year of hearings is this one email it? This is all nonsense and posturing by the right.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 2:13 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
In theory, both Obama and Holder could be impeached and removed from office.

Puppets have a difficult time impeaching other puppets for whatever Henson-esque reason.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 2:20 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
In theory, both Obama and Holder could be impeached and removed from office.
Puppets have a difficult time impeaching other puppets for whatever Henson-esque reason.

Especially when their puppet hands are up each other's puppet arses.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 2:24 PM

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Especially when their puppet hands are up each other's puppet arses.

I wasn't gonna be the one to say that, but basically, yeah.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 5:14 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Benghazi was a FUBAR, okay? The White house is full of them ALL THE TIME NO MATTER THE PRESIDENT.
At least that particular mistake didn't start a fucking needless war & help screw up our economy.
Now let's move to REALLY important issues like Barry drinking milk straight from the carton or Bill's blowjob...

So when the lies are reported as facts and the libtards here believe them because they perceive any liberal fantasy as truth, that should not be pointed out as fallacy by those of us who can think for ourselves. But when the legal process finally uncovers the truth which the Regime has been obstructing, thus proving correct those of us who can think for ourselves and proving wrong the libtard lemmings here who wish to not believe the facts, then the libtards here claim that it is not important?

Who could have seen that coming?

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Friday, May 2, 2014 5:22 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The latest email is the literal definition of the term " smoking gun " w/ regards to Benghazi .

It proves nothing. Just a right wing falsification. More NeoCon lies. Limbaugh-level crap.

This is why it is difficult for anybody to take your BS seriously. Whether you are the caricature of the Looney Lefty Lying Libtard or just truly a follower, you just seem to spout whatever talking points the WH sends you. When the WH hasn't yet provided you with the lies to regurgitate, you seem adrift, like you've gone off the teleprompter.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 6:49 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Storybook - make your claim, don't just make empty charges.

If you CAN, then do it. If not, stfu.
He's done it before, you've deflected/redacted/back-pedalled/avoided/fabricated stuff to make you never wrong.

Not once, not ever.

But specifically, I'm talking about HERE, dumb-ASS.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 6:52 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
When the WH hasn't yet provided you with the lies to regurgitate, you seem adrift, like you've gone

You know what? Fuck You JSF.
I mean that politely.
If you were ever anything but a NeoCon apologist, I *might* have had some moments of trying to take you seriously.
As it is you're just cartoon your own self, much like Rush Limborg.
So Fuck You.
Oh, I said that already. Ummm, va te faire foutre.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 6:53 PM

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Not once, not ever.

Yes, of course you are Right.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 6:54 PM

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Originally posted by MIKER:

There is no story, not really. After a year of hearings is this one email it? This is all nonsense and posturing by the right.

Bigger story than Watergate, but the MSM are blind, deaf and dumb, because they ( like so many here ) don't want their messiah to be tarnished.

This " one email ", as you put it, absolutely obliterates the lie Obama and the rest of his admin have been pushing.

Why wasn't this info released immediately ? Why did it take a FOI request and a court order for it to be released?

( Those questions alone should make you shudder )

Oh, and more is coming.

Keep believing the MSM, w/ your nose up their arses, and imagining that there's nothing to this story.

There is. A lot more than you can possibly imagine.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 7:07 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by MIKER:

There is no story, not really. After a year of hearings is this one email it? This is all nonsense and posturing by the right.

Bigger story than Watergate, but the MSM are blind, deaf and dumb, because they ( like so many here ) don't want their messiah to be tarnished.

This " one email ", as you put it, absolutely obliterates the lie Obama and the rest of his admin have been pushing.

Why wasn't this info released immediately ? Why did it take a FOI request and a court order for it to be released?

( Those questions alone should make you shudder )

Oh, and more is coming.

Keep believing the MSM, w/ your nose up their arses, and imagining that there's nothing to this story.

There is. A lot more than you can possibly imagine.

I can't believe you think this is bigger than Watergate. You gotta be kidding.

Wait, wait, I get it, you also believed Obama was going to kill everyone's grandparents with ACA when that was pushed by those on the right, RIGHT.

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Friday, May 2, 2014 7:12 PM

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There is. A lot more than you can possibly imagine.

There always is.
And what irks me about your dumb ass is that it's acceptable on one side of the aisle and not 'tother.
And it makes no never mind to you that Obama's NOT my hero, and you go on and on like Fanty & Mingo like he is or something. Whatever I can agree with you on is tossed by the wayside in a shitstorm of irrelevant partisan nonsense.
Like I said a ways back, you're here for fights. And, the self fulfilling inner fantasy of winning said fights against them that need the word told.
You're like an evil Shepherd Book.

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Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:42 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're not a complete imbecile.
You don't know me well enough to make that call.

I gotta admit, every once in a great while, chrisisall gets it right.

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Thursday, May 8, 2014 9:38 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're not a complete imbecile.
You don't know me well enough to make that call.

I gotta admit, every once in a great while, chrisisall gets it right.

Thank you.
Wait- I mean....

Rats.

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