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"Washington Intends Russia’s Demise" Warns Paul Craig Roberts

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Monday, May 5, 2014 8:00 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Maybe KPO can put this in the 'predictions" thread. Though I see this as more of a test myself. If this happens, then we'll know where the US truly stands:

"However, Washington does not want an election that might replace its stooges and return to cooperating with Russia to resolve the situation. There is a good chance that Washington will tell its stooges in Kiev to declare that the crisis brought to Ukraine by Russia prevents an election. Washington’s NATO puppet states would back up this claim."
FWIW This article also predicts a march to nuclear confrontation.



Submitted by zerohedge on 05/05/2014 18:31 -0400

"Washington Intends Russia’s Demise" Warns Paul Craig Roberts
Submitted by Paul Craig Roberts


Washington has no intention of allowing the crisis in Ukraine to be resolved. Having failed to seize the country and evict Russia from its Black Sea naval base, Washington sees new opportunities in the crisis.
One is to restart the Cold War by forcing the Russian government to occupy the Russian-speaking areas of present day Ukraine where protesters are objecting to the stooge anti-Russian government installed in Kiev by the American coup. These areas of Ukraine are former constituent parts of Russia herself. They were attached to Ukraine by Soviet leaders in the 20th century when both Ukraine and Russia were part of the same country, the USSR.
Essentially, the protesters have established independent governments in the cities. The police and military units sent to suppress the protesters, called “terrorists” in the American fashion, for the most part have until now defected to the protesters.
With Obama’s incompetent White House and State Department having botched Washington’s takeover of Ukraine, Washington has been at work shifting the blame to Russia. According to Washington and its presstitute media, the protests are orchestrated by the Russian government and have no sincere basis. If Russia sends in military units to protect the Russian citizens in the former Russian territories, the act will be used by Washington to confirm Washington’s propaganda of a Russian invasion (as in the case of Georgia), and Russia will be further demonized.
The Russian government is in a predicament. Moscow does not want financial responsibility for these territories but cannot stand aside and permit Russians to be put down by force. The Russian government has attempted to keep Ukraine intact, relying on the forthcoming elections in Ukraine to bring to office more realistic leaders than the stooges installed by Washington.
However, Washington does not want an election that might replace its stooges and return to cooperating with Russia to resolve the situation. There is a good chance that Washington will tell its stooges in Kiev to declare that the crisis brought to Ukraine by Russia prevents an election. Washington’s NATO puppet states would back up this claim.
It is almost certain that despite the Russian government’s hopes, the Russian government is faced with the continuation of both the crisis and Washington puppet government in Ukraine.
On May 1 Washington’s former ambassador to Russia, now NATO’s “second-in-command” but the person who, being American, calls the shots, has declared Russia to no longer be a partner but an enemy. The American, Alexander Vershbow, told journalists that NATO has given up on “drawing Moscow closer” and soon will deploy a large number of combat forces in Eastern Europe. Vershbow called this aggressive policy deployment of “defensive assets to the region.”
In other words, here we have again the lie that the Russian government is going to forget all about its difficulties in Ukraine and launch attacks on Poland, the Baltic States, Romania., Moldova, and on the central Asian states of Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan. The dissembler Vershbow wants to modernize the militaries of these American puppet states and “seize the opportunity to create the reality on the ground by accepting membership of aspirant countries into NATO.”
What Vershbow has told the Russian government is that you just keep on relying on Western good will and reasonableness while we set up sufficient military forces to prevent Russia from coming to the aid of its oppressed citizens in Ukraine. Our demonization of Russia is working. It has made you hesitant to act during the short period when you could preempt us and seize your former territories. By waiting you give us time to mass forces on your borders from the Baltic Sea to Central Asia. That will distract you and keep you from the Ukraine. The oppression we will inflict on your Russians in Ukraine will discredit you, and the NGOs we finance in the Russian Federation will appeal to nationalist sentiments and overthrow your government for failing to come to the aid of Russians and failing to protect Russia’s strategic interests.
Washington is licking its chops, seeing an opportunity to gain Russia as a puppet state.
Will Putin sit there with his hopes awaiting the West’s good will to work out a solution while Washington attempts to engineer his fall?
The time is approaching when Russia will either have to act to terminate the crisis or accept an ongoing crisis and distraction in its backyard. Kiev has launched military airstrikes on protesters in Slavyansk. On May 2 Russian government spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that Kiev’s resort to violence had destroyed the hope for the Geneva agreement on de-escalating the crisis. Yet, the Russian government spokesman again expressed the hope of the Russian government that European governments and Washington will put a stop to the military strikes and pressure the Kiev government to accommodate the protesters in a way that keeps Ukraine together and restores friendly relations with Russia.
This is a false hope. It assumes that the Wolfowitz doctrine is just words, but it is not. The Wolfowitz doctrine is the basis of US policy toward Russia (and China). The doctrine regards any power sufficiently strong to remain independent of Washington’s influence to be “hostile.” The doctrine states:
“Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.”
The Wolfowitz doctrine justifies Washington’s dominance of all regions. It is consistent with the neoconservative ideology of the US as the “indispensable” and “exceptional” country entitled to world hegemony.
Russia and China are in the way of US world hegemony. Unless the Wolfowitz doctrine is abandoned, nuclear war is the likely outcome.

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Monday, May 5, 2014 8:10 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity


Please, Washington started out in this by responding to what is going on. Once the s@?t hit the fan it became time to do what is necessary to push back against Putin's aggressions at the behest of the Ukrainian government. Sanctions and advice. That is what we are involved in. Advice on how to clean up the corruption and proceed through this without making it worse if possible.

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Monday, May 5, 2014 8:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"However, Washington does not want an election that might replace its stooges and return to cooperating with Russia to resolve the situation. There is a good chance that Washington will tell its stooges in Kiev to declare that the crisis brought to Ukraine by Russia prevents an election. Washington’s NATO puppet states would back up this claim."

I think this is a good test of US intentions. It's pretty obvious that the unelected government in Kiev is doing the bidding of the US. If it should announce elections have been postponed, suspended or canceled, then we'll know if the US is really after democracy. Or not.



OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Monday, May 5, 2014 8:21 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity


I am not arguing Washington does not want certain outcomes beneficial to them. That goes without saying. I will say the more this goes on the worse it is for Russia. The Ukrainians are getting pissed. That said I think North Korea is in deeper S@?t.

Fire:


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Monday, May 5, 2014 10:30 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


N.Koreans are just having their traditional spring BBQ. Please.

As for the thread...it's almost like Washington sees Russia as its main geo-political foe or something.

Crazy.

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Monday, May 5, 2014 11:36 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Why am I tempted to put this in the same bin as 'the economy is in FIRE!", "Iraq has WMDs!", and other RapFacts™ ?



OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Monday, May 5, 2014 11:53 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Why am I tempted to put this in the same bin as 'the economy is in FIRE!", "Iraq has WMDs!", and other RapFacts™ ?






I think I may be miss interpreting you last post, so I have changed my mind on commenting about it.

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Monday, May 5, 2014 11:57 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


My post was directly below rappy's b/c it was a reply to his post. It's sort of a convention here. If there are intervening posts, ppl usually either 'reply with quote', "quote", or address the person whose post they're responding to, or some combination. But I apologize for the confusion.

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Monday, May 5, 2014 11:59 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity


I saw that after I looked at it again. Many apologies I changed the post. Just a little raw here I guess.

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Tuesday, May 6, 2014 8:08 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

. Why am I tempted to put this in the same bin as 'the economy is in FIRE!", "Iraq has WMDs!", and other RapFacts™ ?




1 - out of contex
2 - There were.

Not sure what your point is. I made an obvious joke with the BBQ comment, and then a question about our geopolitical foe. Seems it's the point of the story that indeed Russia IS exactly that.

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Tuesday, May 6, 2014 8:20 AM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
N.Koreans are just having their traditional spring BBQ. Please.

As for the thread...it's almost like Washington sees Russia as its main geo-political foe or something.

Crazy.



All Russia's allies are the countries that have problems with us. Iran, Syria. It's satellite countries have a love hate relationship with Russia and want what the West has to offer.

I don't understand why there is always a problem with Russia, our history shows we are not likely to attack them for no go reason. I think it is we are a threat to their Ideology and Communism by the very nature of our existence.

Nice joke about her barbeque.

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JAYNEZTOWN


There is a Republic thread or Libertarian thread somewhere

the other Paul, not Ron Paul, the son

Rand Paul sets standards Trump has to meet to earn endorsement
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/presidential/3027562
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