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Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:40 AM
MIKER
Once I found Serenity
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:50 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: "Impeachment is a formal process in which an official is accused of unlawful activity, the outcome of which, depending on the country, may include the removal of that official from office as well as criminal or civil punishment." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment From my US History or was it Civics? class ... I've thought that impeachment went a bit further than the Accusation. That it included the discussion of the alleged crimes. However, my instructor told us that, whether the accused is found guilty or innocent, he has still been impeached. So it would mean, an elected official is accused & set for trial by congress/parliament. No?
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: "Impeachment is a formal process in which an official is accused of unlawful activity, the outcome of which, depending on the country, may include the removal of that official from office as well as criminal or civil punishment." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment From my US History or was it Civics? class ... I've thought that impeachment went a bit further than the Accusation. That it included the discussion of the alleged crimes. However, my instructor told us that, whether the accused is found guilty or innocent, he has still been impeached. So it would mean, an elected official is accused & set for trial by congress/parliament. No?
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:09 PM
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: Every time you make me re post these three sentences you look dumber and dumber. "RESOLVED, That Richard M. Nixon, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanours, and that the following articles of impeachment to be exhibited to the Senate: Yup, dumber and dumber
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Those of us observing your petulant claims of non-comprehension are not shocked that you cannot grasp the very simple concept of telling the truth under oath, which is why you blindly support all of the despicable liars overflowing Washington since January 2009. Cut him some slack. I haven't seen him blindly support Little Lord Fuckpants.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Those of us observing your petulant claims of non-comprehension are not shocked that you cannot grasp the very simple concept of telling the truth under oath, which is why you blindly support all of the despicable liars overflowing Washington since January 2009.
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:44 PM
CHRISISALL
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: Richard Nixon resigned from office in disgrace. He was my commander in chief at the time. I did not read the article that upset you, so I don't actually know if he said he was impeached. All I saw was what you said in a response to the article and it was so far from being nonpartisan or accurate I responded to that. Yes I hear what you are saying, you are incorrect. I was not incorrect. I was correct and accurate. The basic inability to differentiate truth. fact, reality from lie, fabrication, fantasy is the foundation for being a modern day liberal. I guess this part was not in Tom Clancy's book huh? I guess you meant a modern day Conservative huh? I am liberal on some issues and conservative on others. It is called balanced. Article 1 "RESOLVED, That Richard M. Nixon, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanours, and that the following articles of impeachment to be exhibited to the Senate: ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT EXHIBITED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN THE NAME OF ITSELF AND OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AGAINST RICHARD M. NIXON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, IN MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT OF ITS IMPEACHMENT AGAINST HIM FOR HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANOURS". http://watergate.info/impeachment/articles-of-impeachment This is what he claimed in the article, revisit it with a friend and have them read it for you. I GOT A BUCK SAYS I NEVER HEAR FROM YOU ON THIS.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: Richard Nixon resigned from office in disgrace. He was my commander in chief at the time. I did not read the article that upset you, so I don't actually know if he said he was impeached. All I saw was what you said in a response to the article and it was so far from being nonpartisan or accurate I responded to that. Yes I hear what you are saying, you are incorrect. I was not incorrect. I was correct and accurate. The basic inability to differentiate truth. fact, reality from lie, fabrication, fantasy is the foundation for being a modern day liberal.
Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: Richard Nixon resigned from office in disgrace. He was my commander in chief at the time. I did not read the article that upset you, so I don't actually know if he said he was impeached. All I saw was what you said in a response to the article and it was so far from being nonpartisan or accurate I responded to that. Yes I hear what you are saying, you are incorrect.
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: I was there in that time, a kid yes, but sort of semi-conscious of events. I clearly remember him resigning before an impeachment was fully established. I mean, as clearly as a kid obsessing on Star Trek reruns could be.
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:07 PM
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OONJERAH
Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:57 AM
Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: It's an issue of timing whether the impeachment was official yet. I'm inclined to agree with JSF. The Judiciary Committee had drawn up the Articles of Impeachment to present to the House. Knowing this, Tricky Dick decided to "slip out the side door," as it were, before the HoR could read the Articles, discuss and vote on them. He wasn't impeached unless/until the House agreed that he was. Author unknown, here's the link: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_bushimpeachment02.htm "To impeach the President of the United States, a majority of the United States House of Representatives must agree to pass a resolution that alleges the President committed "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors." This impeachment resolution is also commonly called an "Article of Impeachment" and spells out in detail the charges against the President. "The House of Representatives then exhibits these Articles of Impeachment to the United States Senate since the latter body has the "sole Power" to "try all impeachments." ... "In the House, the Judiciary Committee is the typical committee to where impeachment resolutions are referred. The Judiciary Committee has formally reported to the full House of Representatives impeachment resolutions against four Presidents: John Tyler, Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon, and Bill Clinton. Of those four Presidents, only Johnson and Clinton were impeached by the House. Both were acquitted by the Senate. "Nixon resigned after the Judiciary Committee recommended impeachment but before the full House considered the report. (Nixon resigned apparently after being told that his impeachment and conviction were near certainties by Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater, a conservative Senator who ran for President in 1964.)" ... oooOO}{OOooo ...
Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:02 PM
Saturday, May 17, 2014 1:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: It's an issue of timing whether the impeachment was official yet. I'm inclined to agree with JSF. ... oooOO}{OOooo ...
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: It's an issue of timing whether the impeachment was official yet. I'm inclined to agree with JSF. ... oooOO}{OOooo ...
Saturday, May 17, 2014 1:56 PM
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Saturday, May 17, 2014 4:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: he still needed to be pardoned by Gerald Ford. You do not need to be pardoned if you were not found guilt. Once he accepted the pardon he in affect plead guilty to all charges.
Saturday, May 17, 2014 4:42 PM
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Saturday, May 17, 2014 4:49 PM
Saturday, May 17, 2014 4:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: It wasn't a Law when it went to the floor on July 30th. It wasn't a law even on 9 Aug 1974, when Nixon resigned. ... It was a suggestion.
Saturday, May 17, 2014 4:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: He plead guilty to the charges because they were going forward with the impeachment. You do not get to plead guilty and then suggest it never happened.
Saturday, May 17, 2014 5:01 PM
Saturday, May 17, 2014 5:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: I suspect all these dance steps were planned before he resigned.
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JONGSSTRAW
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Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: A pre-emptive pardon?
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