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THE Most Important documentary EVERYONE should see

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 7:23 PM

CHRISISALL


http://inequalityforall.com/

It's about how Capitalism works BEST (and also worst), and how it might once again be made right.
And it's also entertaining to boot.
Just saw it on Netflix.
See it, or face my smiley-filled wrath!

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 10:03 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Quote:

It's about how Capitalism works BEST (and also worst), and how it might once again be made right.




In your opinion, when exactly was capitalism " right " ? And at which point did it stop being so ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:06 PM

CHRISISALL


Smiley wrath


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Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:20 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Was asking for YOUR personal opinion here, Chrissy. Not what some video said.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:25 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Capitalism means we don't have to stand in line for hours waiting for our weekly ration of necessities like toilet paper and pudding pops.

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:52 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


definition of a troll: "and I refuse to chase others in a mindless, endless circle of " debate " on the internet. If I 'bitch out' of a discussion, I've said all I'm going to say on the matter, my views have been presented, and there's nothing left to add."



RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster

I feel so vindicated.

"Just glad that some Democrats are acknowledging the bad job done in developing Healthcare.com." "it'll be interesting to see if these same Democrats acknowledge" "these Democrats seem to understand what the real Obama Kool-Ade drinkers still won't address" " it's about Democrats using criticism of the rollout in their campaign ads".




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Monday, March 3, 2014 12:03 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Was asking for YOUR personal opinion here, Chrissy. Not what some video said.
Coming from rappy, this is just too precious.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:11 PM

OONJERAH



Bump.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:16 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Bump.

Yeah, a great film. Have you seen it Oonj?

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 4:49 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Was asking for YOUR personal opinion here, Chrissy. Not what some video said.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall



That's fuckin funny, coming from a guy who has posted videos, and then flat out refused to give HIS opinion about it.



“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”? Isaac Asimov

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:20 PM

OONJERAH


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Yeah, a great film. Have you seen it Oonj?



I've just watched a half-hour+ of Dr. Reich's interview on Democracy
Now. Because that's what I can get right now.

Many of the economic inequalities in the USA are obvious to me, as
they are to you. But understanding Wall St., investments, banking
(+predatory lending, selling off bad loans, and all the other tricks
of the trade) is very uphill to me.

Whenever Reich says that our 1% "overlords" should wanna pay the
workers more, so that they can buy more from the Rich ... that, of
course, is too obvious. It would help everyone.

We have a pretty large percentage of Americans in the poverty class
for generations now. Crippled by what? Their own low expectations,
lack of intelligence, laziness? ... I can't even begin to answer that
one.

It seems to me that nowadays, the middle class is also seriously
crippled ... I feel this was done to them intentionally by the 1%.
Now we're all "peasants," with the great majority (farmer class)
busting their butts tryin' to get back to what was normal.

Ever since the crash, I've been saying, "O! They're taking us back
to Feudalism."



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 6:27 PM

OONJERAH



This is where I see our problem.


Carl Sagan - Dumbing Down America



http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/632474-i-have-a-foreboding-of-an-ameri
ca-in-my-children-s


"I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's
time -- when the United States is a service and information economy;
when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other
countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a
very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp
the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own
agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority ..."



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:03 PM

STORYMARK


Pretty prescient quote, there.



“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”? Isaac Asimov

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:27 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Pretty prescient quote, there.

Who knew Carl was that 'political'?

Heh...'political'... heh heh.

po·lit·i·cal (p?-lit'i-k?l)
adj.
1. Of, relating to, or dealing with the pissing off of the other 'side'.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:36 PM

WHOZIT


I'm not going to watch it, so there.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:44 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
I'm not going to watch it, so there.



You, choosing to be uninformed...

What, were we supposed to be surprised or something?



“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”? Isaac Asimov

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:49 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
I'm not going to watch it, so there.



You, choosing to be uninformed...

What, were we supposed to be surprised or something?



“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”? Isaac Asimov



I'm not going to get upset over your post, so there.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:50 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
You, choosing to be uninformed...


STOP THE PRESS!

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:54 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:

I'm not going to get upset over your post, so there.


Why Annakin, you've grown up!

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:31 PM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
"I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's
time -- when the United States is a service and information economy;
when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other
countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a
very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp
the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own
agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority ..."



Creepy.

Absolutely spot-on and applicable to the reality we live in today.

But not surprising.

My sister is a hippy anarchist rebellious artistic... fill in the rest here. I don't know how to describe her anymore than that. Point is, her son was a total square for most of his formative years purely in reaction to her.

Youth rebel against their elders. That's what they always do. We have entered an age of technology and logic and science. The youth will rebel, will fall in love with Beavis and Butthead, and the weak-minded will never grow out of it. But I think Carl Sagan wasn't seeing the whole picture. Let the kids rebel when they need to, let the idiots fall into the gutter and never get out. Society is having its eyes opened.

OK, so maybe we're as likely to destroy ourselves as we are to survive and evolve. But if we do muddle through, the future could be pretty damned cool. I can't explain that statement in any brief way, but I fully believe it. Holy cow, what we could achieve if we get over this moronic destructive phase... I wish I could live long enough to see it.

I don't mean to suggest that I'm up to such a level, but it's like what Francis Bacon was all about. He knew he was living in the Dark Ages and an Enlightenment might be just around the corner. Poor guy. Wish he could see what we have today. He'd shrug at the Tea Party/Faux News morons and say: Nice job getting this far folks. Keep up the good fight.



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What trolls reveal about themselves when they troll:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=57532
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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:43 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
I don't mean to suggest that I'm up to such a level, but it's like what Francis Bacon was all about. He knew he was living in the Dark Ages and an Enlightenment might be just around the corner. Poor guy. Wish he could see what we have today. He'd shrug at the Tea Party/Faux News morons and say: Nice job getting this far folks. Keep up the good fight.



I *LOVE* this post. Just love it.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:53 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


So Chris...

Since I don't have a Netflix account and probably aren't going to make a special trip to find this or buy it on Amazon in the next few days, how about a synopsis. The trailer on the site wasn't too heavy on solutions.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:00 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Question: You do realize that "angry people with or without money" is a target market?



How can I put this response delicately, yet still express my dissatisfaction with your apparently simplistic takeaway from the piece...?
....
Anger is generated by inequity and powerlessness in the face of tyranny, and a lack of anger means a

Oh fuck it- just stop being an asshole, OKAY????
Jesus fucking Christ. Everything has to be judged not on its content, but by the prejudice coming into it or going away from it!!!
Oh, like you're not ANGRY, G.

Out back in my barn is foot powered stone wheel, I'll gladly let you grind your axe there if you want.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:07 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
how about a synopsis. The trailer on the site wasn't too heavy on solutions.

Oh, thanks for the interest dude, but I'm really not gonna watch it again to take notes... off the top of my head it was basically about the more you make, the more taxes you pay & the more you pay your employees to keep the economy that makes you wealthy thriving so you can remain rich, and your country strong so being rich is a lasting thing & not a countdown to self destruction.
Something like that...

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:31 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Sounds like an important documentary. What country does it better? America... in the decades following WW2!

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:22 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Thing is is: that doesn't do anything for the problem. Maybe it will help some, but it takes a lot more than a warm fuzzy to make things change. Believe it or not, great sounding ideas are a dime a dozen.



Well, of course. But it still has to start somewhere, and that's generally with discussions prompted by stuff like this.

Its as if you're stomping your feet, angry that we're not at the end of the race, and so in protest, you'll never start.



“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”? Isaac Asimov

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:05 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Prime working-age French adults are now much more likely than their US counterparts to have jobs.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/cheese-eating-job-creators/
May 21, 2014 from Cheese-eating Job Creators
The red line is USA; blue is France.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:31 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity



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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:38 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Not my perspective at all. I don't want people to walk out of a movie with a smile on their face and think it's all taken care of.

The movie doesn't pretend to tell us how to have a happy happy, it mainly spells out precisely how we got to where we are, and suggests possibilities out of it, as well as predicts where we'll be if we 'stay the course'.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:43 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
So I take it everyone commenting on this film ponied up the $4.00 it cost to view it; bravo. I myself did not. I'll wait until it hits Netflix.

Beware! There are pirates about:
Inequality for All (2013) 1080p http://yts.re/movie/Inequality_for_All_2013_1080p
Inequality for All (2013) http://yts.re/movie/Inequality_for_All_2013


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:52 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity



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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:17 PM

OONJERAH



And to summarize:

1. The 1% has corraled nearly all the money ... and they're not so much
for trickle down right now in the USA. We Understand the Problem.
Chris: "how it might once again be made right."

2. The Dumbing down of America has been incredibly successful. Does that
need its own thread?
I'd planned to do a 2nd post: The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America
by Charlotte T. Iserbyt but haven't checked it out yet.

3. What to Do about It is on Us, We the People. We have always been very
resourceful. ... Proposed solutions need its own thread - not? Tack it
on to here works for me.
The 'Net may already abound with good ideas.



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

Every problem has a gift for you in its hands. ~Richard Bach

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
http://inequalityforall.com/

It's about how Capitalism works BEST (and also worst), and how it might once again be made right.
And it's also entertaining to boot.
Just saw it on Netflix.
See it, or face my smiley-filled wrath!



Only if you've already watched Idiocracy enough to make witty comebacks while we're working, Chris...

"I like Money".



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:39 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity



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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Quote:

It's about how Capitalism works BEST (and also worst), and how it might once again be made right.




In your opinion, when exactly was capitalism " right " ? And at which point did it stop being so ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen


I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall


As is common with most libtards, he was confusing capitalism with communism.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:02 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

And to summarize:

1. The 1% has corraled nearly all the money ... and they're not so much
for trickle down right now in the USA. We Understand the Problem.




Ummmmm, yeah. You understood that was the plan right?
Trickle down is part and parcel Reaganomics. Cut the tax rates, trickle down follows. Obama understands this is the way to grow the economy, so he has instituted 5 years of tax rate hikes, producing a stop to the trickle down effect. Your post made it seem that you either didn't understand or you forgot.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:44 PM

OONJERAH



Feudalism.



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

Every problem has a gift for you in its hands. ~Richard Bach

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:41 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
So I take it everyone commenting on this film ponied up the $4.00 it cost to view it; bravo. I myself did not. I'll wait until it hits Netflix.

Beware! There are pirates about:
Inequality for All (2013) 1080p http://yts.re/movie/Inequality_for_All_2013_1080p
Inequality for All (2013) http://yts.re/movie/Inequality_for_All_2013

No good SECOND. I followed both links and both required me to download the video onto my computer. Not going to happen but thanks anyway. I could not even watch the trailer without disengaging my tracker blocker.

I guess I really will be waiting for it to show up on Netflix.

Imagine me whispering this to you because not everyone is suppose to know this secret:

Many different clients can handle the bit torrents at http://yts.re/
Examples of clients are at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_clients

I know of µTorrent. www.utorrent.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTorrent

I can't say more because Alliance spies ( and HBO ) have listening devices everywhere.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:03 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity



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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:46 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Obama understands this is the way to grow the economy, so he has instituted 5 years of tax rate hikes, producing a stop to the trickle down effect.



Sorry, try again. This has been debunked. Once again, you are demonstrably in error, and ensconced in the endless anti-whom-you-hate bullshit. Feel free to go on, and prove yourself more the idiot than you have already (Heh, if that's even possible at this point).
You proved me right here.
Thanks.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:52 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
You think with your heart Chris, and you are a very shiny person for doing so.

I mean to confound these bungers. Take my shot at getting to the truth of things. Maybe find something I can use to clear this all up. So I hear a word out of any one of you that ain't helping me out, I will shoot you down.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:11 PM

JONGSSTRAW


^^ Just keep eating your beans Tracey. And thank a capitalist for making your tin while you're at it.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:16 PM

CHRISISALL


Scoop out your own innards, Sarge.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:23 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Don't have to ... 'cause I got people... people who care ... people who got my back .... people like .. er um uh ... well .. people gorramit!

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:23 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
SECOND I wish you could see me falling out of my chair laughing. Love the post. Is it safe to suggest the thread is safe because you may or may not know someone who uses it.

Ahoy, mate. Video Pirates use µTorrent ! www.utorrent.com



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:36 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Don't have to ... 'cause I got people... people who care ... people who got my back .... people like .. er um uh ... well .. people gorramit!


Frackin' sidebar:
Jongs, I just got the 1978 BSG theatrical movie on Blu Ray, oh my Lords of Kobol!!! Awesome can't begin to describe how amazing it looks!!!!

Back on topic: How could have the 1% been so completely wrong? They have led the entire Human race to ruin..............

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Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:02 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:

Jongs, I just got the 1978 BSG theatrical movie on Blu Ray, oh my Lords of Kobol!!! Awesome can't begin to describe how amazing it looks!!!!


I congratulated you last week. You should get the whole series. I'm waiting for the next technology ... Cassie Cleavage Vision.

Quote:

Back on topic: How could have the 1% been so completely wrong? They have led the entire Human race to ruin..............

They trusted Bankstar the traitor. One of the most shocking and gut-wrenching scenes ever broadcast on tv. Still gets to me after 36 years.

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Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:17 AM

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Back on topic: How could have the 1% been so completely wrong? They have led the entire Human race to ruin..............



^^ Very simple.

Why'd they wait til now to take nearly All the marbles?
I say again: Habitat. The domes.

They are planning to survive while the rest of us die on this degrading
biosphere that they, primarily, have raped and polluted.
Maybe they weren't wrong, at all. 7 billion slaves is a bit many to keep
track of.

(We could all start riding horses, bicycles, balloons.)




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“History is a set of lies agreed upon.” ~Napoleon?

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Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:28 AM

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:

I say again: Habitat. The domes.


Logan's Run?

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Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:32 AM

OONJERAH



Logan's Run is one.

Domes. I can't even touch their fictional history. Haven't domed
cities & farms with controlled weather always been a staple of sci-fi?
Some real ones may already exist.

Saffron returned to Mal & offered a job on the planet Balerephon ...
estates are islands in the sky. Islands in the Sky, Arthur C. Clarke,
1952. As sci-fi was well started in the 50's, I don't suggest that
Clarke invented the 1st sky-floating habitats. However, for now,
space stations can be habitats, as they don't require antigravity.

Cities in Flight, James Blish.
Not gonna talk about all the underwater cities ... those scare me.

Some writers always just assumed we'd fix everything up to suit
ourselves. Technology would make it all possible.



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