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Roller coaster economics: 2007 redux?
Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:42 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Has the next major economic downturn already started? The way that you would answer that question would probably depend on where you live. If you live in New York City, or the suburbs of Washington D.C., or you work for one of the big tech firms in the San Francisco area, you would probably respond to such a question by saying of course not. In those areas, the economy is doing great and prices for high end homes are still booming. But in most of the rest of the nation, evidence continues to mount that the next recession has already begun for the poor and the middle class. As you will read about below, major retailers had an absolutely dreadful start to 2014 and home sales are declining just as they did back in 2007 before the last financial crisis. Meanwhile, the U.S. economy continues to lose more good jobs and 20 percent of all U.S. families do not have a single member that is employed at this point. 2014 is turning out to be eerily similar to 2007 in so many ways, but most people are not paying attention. During the first quarter of 2014, earnings by major U.S. retailers missed estimates by the biggest margin in 13 years. The "retail apocalypse" continues to escalate, and the biggest reason for this is the fact that middle class consumers in the U.S. are tapped out. And this is not just happening to a few retailers - this is something that is happening across the board. The following is a summary of how major U.S. retailers performed in the first quarter of 2014 that was put together by Jim Quinn...
Saturday, May 31, 2014 8:31 AM
WHOZIT
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Has the next major economic downturn already started? The way that you would answer that question would probably depend on where you live. If you live in New York City, or the suburbs of Washington D.C., or you work for one of the big tech firms in the San Francisco area, you would probably respond to such a question by saying of course not. In those areas, the economy is doing great and prices for high end homes are still booming. But in most of the rest of the nation, evidence continues to mount that the next recession has already begun for the poor and the middle class. As you will read about below, major retailers had an absolutely dreadful start to 2014 and home sales are declining just as they did back in 2007 before the last financial crisis. Meanwhile, the U.S. economy continues to lose more good jobs and 20 percent of all U.S. families do not have a single member that is employed at this point. 2014 is turning out to be eerily similar to 2007 in so many ways, but most people are not paying attention. During the first quarter of 2014, earnings by major U.S. retailers missed estimates by the biggest margin in 13 years. The "retail apocalypse" continues to escalate, and the biggest reason for this is the fact that middle class consumers in the U.S. are tapped out. And this is not just happening to a few retailers - this is something that is happening across the board. The following is a summary of how major U.S. retailers performed in the first quarter of 2014 that was put together by Jim Quinn... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-30/has-next-recession-already-begun-americas-middle-class
Saturday, May 31, 2014 9:37 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Sunday, June 1, 2014 8:12 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: What the hell are you talking about ? Obama's economy is on FIRE!!!
Sunday, June 1, 2014 9:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: What the hell are you talking about ? Obama's economy is on FIRE!!! Republicans were quick to seize on Thursday’s report as more evidence that President Obama’s policies are not working. The downward revision in gross domestic product for the first quarter was driven by businesses’ adding less to their inventories — suggesting that another inventory adjustment won’t weigh on growth in the second quarter. Businesses aggressively added to their inventories in the second half of 2013, one major reason they didn’t need to restock their warehouses and back rooms as quickly in the first three months of 2014. Experts are now predicting that the annual pace of growth will rise to between 3 percent and 4 percent in the current quarter, and data so far for April and May appears to be much more robust. www.nytimes.com/2014/05/30/business/economy/First-quarter-GDP-data-is-released.html The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Sunday, June 1, 2014 3:55 PM
CHRISISALL
Sunday, June 1, 2014 4:30 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Sunday, June 1, 2014 4:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: What the hell are you talking about ? Obama's economy is on FIRE!!! Only you would be stupid enough to use THAT line to try to make fun of someone ELSE. Hahah, I could not MAKE funnier stuff up. Thanks for the LOL of the day, dude (intentional or not).
Sunday, June 1, 2014 4:55 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, June 1, 2014 5:00 PM
Sunday, June 1, 2014 5:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Of course he does. Even rappy's not that stupid.
Monday, June 2, 2014 7:38 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: What the hell are you talking about ? Obama's economy is on FIRE!!! It is if you're invested in stocks and mutual funds. All told we made back all the paper losses from 2008-2010, and we're up about 65% since then. So .... My stock profits are locked in with stop sell markers on everything. I don't pretend to understand why Wall Street has done so well in the last few years, but I know that it's the easiest money I've made since the '90s.
Monday, June 2, 2014 8:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: You haven't really gained anything, and have probably lost value. The dollar has been devalued since then, the devaluation has exceeded the numerical gain, so unless you've performed better than the DJIA, you've lost or held even. But your numbers are bigger, and Barry is hoping you are stupid enough to ignore the facts.
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