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Best and worst First Ladies of your lifetime?

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
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Friday, July 18, 2014 5:27 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Obviously, in terms of criminality, no one will ever top Hillary. In terms of how vapid and detrimental, surely Queen Mooch-elle takes the cake.

For best, and considering influence in the role, I think Jackie nudges out Nancy.

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Friday, July 18, 2014 7:22 PM

CHRISISALL


Hey! This is another Rethuglican good/ Dimocrap bad thread. Very cool!

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Friday, July 18, 2014 7:37 PM

JONGSSTRAW



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Friday, July 18, 2014 7:48 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Hey! This is another Rethuglican good/ Dimocrap bad thread. Very cool!


"Jackie" edges out " Nancy ", and you see it as...

Oh, never mind. What's the point.




Dingo ate your baby... ha ha. Funny.

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Friday, July 18, 2014 7:51 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
"Jackie" edges out " Nancy ", and you see it as...

JFK & Jackie were DINO's, it's okay.



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Friday, July 18, 2014 8:03 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
"Jackie" edges out " Nancy ", and you see it as...

JFK & Jackie were DINO's, it's okay.




Jackie wasn't 1st lady in MY lifetime, so I can't vote for her anyway.

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Friday, July 18, 2014 8:16 PM

THGRRI


Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
"Jackie" edges out " Nancy ", and you see it as...

JFK & Jackie were DINO's, it's okay.




Jackie wasn't 1st lady in MY lifetime, so I can't vote for her anyway.


Jackie was revered around the world. When the Kennedys traveled she was the one most admired. Or I should say made the biggest splash. Not to spite Nancy but in that sense not even close.

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Friday, July 18, 2014 8:41 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


As far as looks, it's safe to say that Jackie was and remains the hottest 1st Lady to date.

Elanor Roosevelt easily edges out Barbara Bush, who looked like 41's mom, even back in '88.

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Friday, July 18, 2014 8:51 PM

THGRRI


Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
As far as looks, it's safe to say that Jackie was and remains the hottest 1st Lady to date.

Elanor Roosevelt easily edges out Barbara Bush, who looked like 41's mom, even back in '88.


Until recently I don't recall hate being directed at a first lady. Bush two caught a lot of shit but his wife had high grades regardless. It's getting stupid.

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Friday, July 18, 2014 9:05 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I agree. 'Hate' for the spouse of a President does seem petty.

Unless the spouse is a real shrew of a woman... well, we all know who fits THAT description.

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Friday, July 18, 2014 9:35 PM

THGRRI


Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

I agree. 'Hate' for the spouse of a President does seem petty.

Unless the spouse is a real shrew of a woman... well, we all know who fits THAT description.


I am betting you mean shrewd. The one I know best fits that description is Nancy Reagan although I am not sure that's fair. She had her husbands back more than anyone I've heard of, and many behind the scene guilty or not felt her wrath. Even her own kids had big problems with her and Ronald. They actually didn't like them much at all.

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Friday, July 18, 2014 9:39 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


SO what criteria are you basing this subjective piece of rubbish thread on. Are you judging this women on their clothes and hairstyle? On their support of their husband? On the projects they supported?

What makes a good President's wife? Why should you even care?

Leader's partners are not given much attention here, I wonder why you guys do it. Smacks of neo monarchism to me.

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Friday, July 18, 2014 9:59 PM

THGRRI


Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
SO what criteria are you basing this subjective piece of rubbish thread on. Are you judging this women on their clothes and hairstyle? On their support of their husband? On the projects they supported?

What makes a good President's wife? Why should you even care?

Leader's partners are not given much attention here, I wonder why you guys do it. Smacks of neo monarchism to me.


Quite the opposite I think. You see our first ladies are more than just wall flowers.

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Friday, July 18, 2014 10:05 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


So what is the purpose of an unelected spouse of an elected leader?

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Friday, July 18, 2014 11:03 PM

THGRRI


Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
So what is the purpose of an unelected spouse of an elected leader?


Here in this country they pick something that is dear to them and try and effect change. They are front and center in representing our country and do a very good job of it.

Perhaps the most important thing is bring down the hate level of people who disagree with there spouses politics. For instance when Bush two was giving fits to those who disagreed with him Mrs. Bush had a very high rating. She presented a sanity within the family that gave heart to the country. I don't know if you get what I am saying but it was really important at the time.

With Mrs. Obama it is quite the different story. She is under fire constantly and is not deserving of it. Some of the things said about her are terribly hateful. I have seen it in these threads. Their called bigots. This for me is a first. I don't ever recall this being the case before. Except with Hillary Clinton because she tried to fix the health care system while first lady. Boy did she get it. Then she ran for and became a Senator in New York and earned even the Republicans respect.

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Saturday, July 19, 2014 4:57 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

I agree. 'Hate' for the spouse of a President does seem petty.

Unless the spouse is a real shrew of a woman... well, we all know who fits THAT description.


I am betting you mean shrewd.


No. Meant what I said.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Taming_of_the_Shrew

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Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:30 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Ah yes, your choice of words as with your choice of plays betrays your not so hidden views. Women who are not subjegated to their husbands whims should be tamed, I suppose. A first lady who is a demure wallflower is preferable to one with opinions and a career.

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Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:43 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Hey! This is another Rethuglican good/ Dimocrap bad thread. Very cool!
I was expecting something different. Fooled again...

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Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:14 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Ah yes, your choice of words as with your choice of plays betrays your not so hidden views. Women who are not subjegated to their husbands whims should be tamed, I suppose. A first lady who is a demure wallflower is preferable to one with opinions and a career.


I didn't start the thread.

I'm not William Shakespeare.




You were saying ?

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Saturday, July 19, 2014 9:46 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


You sure aint

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Saturday, July 19, 2014 9:50 AM

THGRRI


Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Ah yes, your choice of words as with your choice of plays betrays your not so hidden views. Women who are not subjegated to their husbands whims should be tamed, I suppose. A first lady who is a demure wallflower is preferable to one with opinions and a career.


You got em. Yep ya did. The sad thing is he does not nor will he ever get it. His defense is he did not start the thread as though it is the thread and not his comments that are the problem.

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Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:55 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

You got em. Yep ya did. The sad thing is he does not nor will he ever get it. His defense is he did not start the thread as though it is the thread and not his comments that are the problem.



Because there's nothing TO get. I didn't start this thread. Tis true. Nor did I even convey it was a good idea. I specifically stated otherwise.

My comments are a problem ?

Which comments ?

What problem do they pose ?

The imagined conclusions cast on me by others are NOT my concern. I will not answer to lies and distortions about what I say.

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Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Honestly, I didn't even realize that any of them were there TBH.

I thought the only point in the First Lady was to provide irrefutable proof that the man your voting for doesn't meet up with George Michael at some glory hole in the middle of the forest preserve on his off time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:52 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Wot, coz married men dont do that?

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Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:57 PM

THGRRI


Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Wot, coz married men dont do that?


And you keep correcting my English? Fergetaboutit, wuts up wit dat?

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Monday, July 21, 2014 6:20 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
SO what criteria are you basing this subjective piece of rubbish thread on. Are you judging this women on their clothes and hairstyle? On their support of their husband? On the projects they supported?

What makes a good President's wife? Why should you even care?

Leader's partners are not given much attention here, I wonder why you guys do it. Smacks of neo monarchism to me.

Might seem like that. We were founded during a time of much monarchism worldwide. To effectively engage, collude, partner with these our government did quite a bit of this Elegance for the sake of Diplomacy, it seems. Our buildings for Congress and the White House were specifically designed for the appearance of power and history - although our land obviously had less history than any other landmass on Earth.
First Ladies do, IIRC, perform some duties regarding ceremonial and State Dinners in their Home, which is also their office.

Nancy Reagan did have quite a bit of influence over her husband. Some think this was a bad thing, others think it helped moderate some issues. Sometimes he did not adhere to her wishes.
Jackie may be known as a fashion and hairstyle maverick - you may be better suited to tell us how she is viewed on the world stage. I was more referring to her work in the White House, and her support of one of our greatest Presidents. She had great influence in updating the look and splendor of the White House - may be called remodelling, but many conjured it was overdue. Her spirit was also viewed, I think, as an indication of the renewed vigor and youthfulness of an administration which had only one other new President following WWII. She had also been a professional photographer, or maybe it was photo-journalist. I would not consider her a light-weight, if that's what you were thinking.

On the other hand, Mooch-elle and the Shrew Co-President are horrific examples, where they have vastly overstepped their bounds, duties, and done so without any merit whatsoever.

Does the world media even know or mention First Ladies of America? I hardly hear of Angela Merkel's husband, but I have not heard he would have any duties in her administration.

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