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evil pro-Russian separatist looter steals a teddy bear

POSTED BY: 1KIKI
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 22:20
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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:05 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


evil pro-Russian separatist looter steals a teddy bear (~ minute 1)


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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:26 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:31 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


G

You can tell who the Reuters photographer was by comparing the angle of the picture and the video.

But the Reuters photographer whose photo I selected out of many KNEW the pictures of evil separatists looting bodies WAS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FACTS. ALL THE REPORTERS THERE KNEW THAT. ALL OF THEM.

So, you being, I trust, a rational person, how do you explain this one page (of an overwhelming many) from a google search of the news, all with the same story:

Ghouls at the crash site - rebels REMOVE bodies and LOOT ...
Express.co.uk ?- 2 days ago

Looting at jet crash scene may hamper investigation
USA TODAY? - 3 days ago

Ukrainian separatists loot crash site, show contempt for ...
www.bostonglobe.com/...separatists-loot.../story.html
The Boston Globe

www.cnn.com/2014/07/19/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/
3 days ago - Ukraine accused rebels of looting jewelry, credit cards and money ...

www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/.../12827931/
USA Today
4 days ago - Looters Stole Cash, Credit Cards, and Jewelry from Flight ...

www.thewire.com/global/2014/07/flight-mh17...looted/374707/
3 days ago - Locals and armed separatist raided the scene before the investigators ... yesterday afternoon after being shot with a missile, is now being looted.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/.../malaysia-airlines-flight-_n_5601703.html
3 days ago - The latest allegations of looting came amid discussions over the ...

MH17: Kerry slams 'drunken separatists' | News - Home
www.click2houston.com/news/...as-bodies...site/27044962
KPRC-TV
2 days ago - Are the same separatists accused of shooting down Malaysia Airlines ... "The facts of looting, how the terrorists are dealing with the bodies, are ...
MH17 tragedy: Chaos at crash scene amid reports of looting

www.smh.com.au › World
The Sydney Morning Herald
3 days ago - ... of looting are now emerging from the crash site of MH17 as bodies ... Pro-Russian separatists look at passengers' belongings at the crash ...
Have They No Shame? "Separatists" Are Looting Plane ...


This here - and the media outlets are all too happy to feed their curiosity - is complete craven bullshit. They didn't just make up some colorful story in the absence of information, to, yanno, feed the curiosity of the masses. THEY KNEW WHAT THE TRUTH WAS. ALL the reporters. THEY KNEW THE TRUTH. ALL OF THEM. They COULD have reported it. THEY CHOSE - OR WERE TOLD - TO MISREPRESENT IT.



Your faith in the goodness of the media is touching. But deluded. And just a smidge intentional.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


G has no pretensions of rationality.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:18 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


A lot like Geezer.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 7:34 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I find this thread a bit callous and petty, in light of 290 actual people having recently been violently murdered. BY Russian separatists.

I GET the point that's trying to be made, about the media, but I find the means of relaying that message over done.

Also, I find it a bit funny that early on, I JOKED about a drunk Igor and Dimitry firing off a rocket, just for kicks. Turns out, the name of the one responsible for the order to fire was named 'Igor',and there's a running theme of the separatists being drunk on vodka.

Sometimes stereotypes really do have a basis of truth to them.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:27 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


So KIKI, which of the articles about looting you cite above(at least the ones that actually link to a story instead of say its a broken link) actually used the picture of the separatist with the teddy bear (although it looks more like a monkey to me)? Or is the fact the one individual didn't actually take one teddy bear/monkey proof to you that no one else did any looting?

When to bodies get back to the Netherlands and the forensic specialists start looking for rings and other jewelry described by family members, we'll have better information. Also expect that someone will be looking for use of the credit cards of victims.

Of course, if there are reports of missing jewelry or credit card usage, you and SignyM will write it off as part of the vast global conspiracy to frame the poor Russians.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:55 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Geezer - the Dutch govt will prolly say little to nothing about the looting which took place.

Just my guess.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:51 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Geezer - the Dutch govt will prolly say little to nothing about the looting which took place.

Just my guess.



The Dutch are the ones most in bed with Russia as far as monies looted from the Russian people. I think the Dutch people may insist on some tough talk. We will see. I think you are right Rappy as evidenced by what they said about how the bodies have been handled to date. I think it is about walking things back so it is not to finically costly to them.


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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:24 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:

I think you are right Rappy





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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:29 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"... if there are reports of missing jewelry or credit card usage, you and SignyM will write it off as part of the vast global conspiracy to frame the poor Russians. "

You mean the territory is no longer Ukrainian, it's Russian?




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:37 AM

THGRRI


Talk to the hand 1kiki.




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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:40 AM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by G

I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU, YOU DUELING F*CKWITS!



"Dueling fuckwits" Kuku and Sniggy have their ears tuned in to the latest Soviet propaganda.


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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:40 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by G

I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU, YOU DUELING F*CKWITS!



"Dueling fuckwits" Kuku and Sniggy have their ears tuned in to the latest Soviet propaganda.






(so worth repeating)

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


290 dead, public outrage in the Nederlands (so our press says, anyway), and you really think that the government will try to hide malfeasance by Ukrainian separatists (not even real Russians)?

Well, don't ever say that I'm the ONLY one to engage in "conspiracy theories"!

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:41 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Talk to the hand Signym.







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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


In other words, you dug as deep as you could in that shallow well of thought, and you got nothin'.

--------
How many of you thought that Saddam had WMD?
Who among you thought that Assad used chemical weapons in Syria?
How many of you were surprised by 9-11?
Did any of you predict the meltdown of 2008?
Who thought that Russia invaded Georgia unprovoked?

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:00 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Signydamus - What's next, hmm ? Pray, do tell ! Do tell us , in advance, what the future brings, so that we can then tell all that we too " saw that comin' " , just like you!!!

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
I think you are right Rappy





What world is this?

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


G

I know you you were partially agreeing with me. But - given that the reporters there knew firsthand what was going on (as portrayed in the video) - and then misrepresented it as something vastly different (as portrayed in the photos) - why do you believe the misreporting was an accidental 'oops'? Or as you put it "the media outlets are all too happy to feed their curiosity - even if it's not real". Why would they not feed their curiosity with the facts as they observed them? And how do you explain that the media outlets all made the same 'mistake'?




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:13 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
I think you are right Rappy





What world is this?



Welcome to the new age.




*edit - Hope this one works. Pity the other one didn't. It was a bit better.

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Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:20 PM

THGRRI


Your video's broke Rap. If memory serves I disliked the first video you posted and like the second. So this is very important to break the tie.

FIX IT!.....


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