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US Appeals Court Finds Obamacare Insurance Subsidies Invalid In Most States
Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:35 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:It may be back to square 1 for Obamacare. Moments ago, in what NBC classified as a "potentially lethal blow to Obamacare" a federal appeals court has ruled that the federal government may not subsidize health insurance plans bought by people in states that decided not to set up their own marketplaces under Obamacare. The law clearly says that states are to set up the exchanges. But 34 states opted not to, and the federal government took over in those states. The court ruled that federal government may not pay subsidies for insurance plans in those states. As the Hill reports further, the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals said the Affordable Care Act does not permit the IRS to distribute premium subsidies in the federal ObamaCare exchange, meaning those consumers must bear the full cost of their insurance.
Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:49 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Two federal appellate courts handed down contradictory rulings Tuesday on the legality of a central part of the Affordable Care Act that provides insurance subsidies to millions of Americans in three dozen states. The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the subsidies available under the 2010 health-care law may be provided only to residents of states that set up their own health insurance marketplaces. Less than two hours later, the Richmond-based 4th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the subsidies, ruling in a separate case that the law’s language was ambiguous, giving the Obama administration the authority to allow the subsidies nationwide. The divergent rulings increase the likelihood that the question will be decided by the Supreme Court. If the subsidies ultimately are struck down for states that did not set up their own marketplaces, it would be a crippling blow to the federal program, dramatically reducing the ability of low- and middle-income Americans to pay for health insurance, which is now mandatory for most people.
Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:07 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:03 PM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Will CJ Roberts get a chance to make amends, or does the Obama regime continue to hold a 'metaphorical' gun to his or his family's head ?
Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Give me a break, it's not a constitutional question. It is a poorly worded section in the bill that leaves it open to interpretation. Now it is a gamble to send it back to congress to fix or for the Republicans to look like they are taking away millions of peoples ins. out of spite. All the drafters of the bill said this was a mistake.
Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: Give me a break, it's not a constitutional question. It is a poorly worded section in the bill that leaves it open to interpretation. Now it is a gamble to send it back to congress to fix or for the Republicans to look like they are taking away millions of peoples ins. out of spite. All the drafters of the bill said this was a mistake. It's the law, as it was written, and should not stand. The law itself is a mistake. The GOP aren't taking anything away from anyone. Those who still have $ can pay for ins. There's just no justification for there to be a govt pay out for it.
Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:17 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: The GOP aren't taking anything away from anyone. Those who still have $ can pay for ins. There's just no justification for there to be a govt pay out for it.
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:10 AM
Quote: 3 yes 3 no, there are 11 when the full circuit court is in session. 7 of which were appointed by the democrats. It shouldn't matter but it does. All those who wrote the bill have sad what their intent was so we'll see.
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:28 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:38 AM
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Wednesday, July 23, 2014 6:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: After 16 years, it's just WRONG to see her anywhere else. I can't imagine that someone with her smarts, sense of humor, and traditional values will be too happy there.
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: After 16 years, it's just WRONG to see her anywhere else. I can't imagine that someone with her smarts, sense of humor, and traditional values will be too happy there. Ha-ha. You remind me of Linus Van Pelt, when he first learned that favorite teacher, Miss Othmar, actually accepts MONEY. It's a business. She just followed the $.
Wednesday, July 23, 2014 10:31 PM
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