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Originally posted by THGRRI:

It’s my impression by what you post your hate for the man stems from the color of his skin. You not being from here suggests to me it’s not his politics.

It's more than a little ironic you are making that accusation against someone else now over gender. It would be nice to get all the bigots to go away so more congenial people would start posting here.

Do us a favor, we have enough bigots here without importing more. Try visiting someplace else.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:


Magons, you freaking KNOW better.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Holy SHIT guys. AU, while it was commendable to post about the double standards in the NFL, you're not actually helping your case with all your "hilarious jokes" and "cold hard truths."

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Ravens officials began the damage control with their initial post-punishment support of Rice last week. It was the job of the team's senior vice president of public relations, Steve Byrne, to craft a delicate blog post about the running back's drive for redemption on Baltimore's website.

That story Friday was a fair vehicle to share owner Steve Bisciotti's extended statement on Rice's major off-field misstep. But the tone of Monday's follow-up story was all wrong.

As much as there was an outcry for the league's limited discipline after Rice violated the personal conduct policy by being charged with assaulting his now-wife, Janay, there's no way the initial reaction should be to applaud his cheers on the field.

Sure, the team can't control football-hungry and football-focused fans from rooting on Rice in camp again. But trumpeting it by incorporating a video and Facebook promotion is unncessary and unwise.

There's been the feeling from the league and the Ravens that Rice was a good guy who just did one bad thing. Unfortunately, domestic violence toward a woman isn't your typical one bad thing.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2014-07-29/ray-rice-ravens-janay
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….. MAGONSDAUGHTER
Dear or dear, is your irony chip not working? I know there are some whackos on this board, but do you seriously believe I am one of them?

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Originally posted by THGRRI:

Sorry, it’s good to see I was mistaken.

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….. MAGONSDAUGHTER
Dear or dear, is your irony chip not working? I know there are some whackos on this board, but do you seriously believe I am one of them?

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I thought you were being sarcastic, that’s why I asked. I have spent an inordinate amount of time lately dealing with people who post exactly that way and are serious. It is also possible for someone to be very reasonable except about something like color.

Very glad to receive this post because I felt you were one of the reasonable ones posting here, which is why I found it so disturbing.

Sorry, it’s good to see I was mistaken.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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Originally posted by THGRRI:

Sorry, it’s good to see I was mistaken.

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Oh, you've been mistaken alright. About a great many things.

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Trust me, I will be less likely to make that mistake again.

I think it's Dear Me?

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Trust me, I will be less likely to make that mistake again.

I think it's Dear Me?

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Meant to say Dear Oh Dear. You don't know that expression? Kind of the exasperated comment your mother would make if you stepped in dog shit on the way home from school. Well MY mother would have said that.

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NEW YORK -- ESPN has suspended outspoken sportscaster Stephen A. Smith for a week because of his comments about domestic abuse suggesting women should make sure that they don't do anything to provoke an attack.

Smith's commentary occurred during a discussion on ESPN2's "First Take" last Friday about the NFL's two-game suspension of Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice following charges he assaulted his now-wife. The remarks attracted widespread attention, including a stinging rebuke online from a fellow ESPN personality.
Smith issued an on-air apology Monday, saying it was the most egregious mistake of his career.

A day later, ESPN took action. The network's chief executive, John Skipper, told ESPN's staff in a memo it was done after a "thoughtful discussion" about appropriate actions with men and women in his company.

"I believe his apology was sincere and that he and we have learned from what we've collectively experienced," Skipper said.

Smith will not appear on "First Take" or ESPN radio until Aug. 6, the network said.


During the Rice discussion, Smith alluded to women in abuse cases when he said,

"Let's make sure we don't do anything to provoke wrong action ... we got to also make sure that you can do your part to do whatever you can do to make, to try to make sure it doesn't happen again."

Shortly after Smith's remarks, colleague Michelle Beadle responded on Twitter that

"I was just forced to watch this morning's First Take. A) I'll never feel clean again B) I'm not aware that I can provoke my own beating."


Beadle, host of ESPN2's "SportsNation," continued with a series of tweets. She said that "Violence isn't the victim's issue. It's the abuser's. To insinuate otherwise is irresponsible and disgusting."

Smith, during his apology, said it wasn't his intention to say that women could be responsible for their own abuse. "It was not what I was trying to say," he said. "Yet the failure to clearly articulate something different lies squarely on my shoulder."

Smith didn't explain the point that he was trying to make.

ESPN frowns upon its personalities attacking each other on social media or other forums. But it did not announce any punishment for Beadle.

http://www.foxsports.com/buzzer/story/stephen-a-smith-suspended-for-do
mestic-abuse-comments-072914?cmpid=msn%3Afoxsports%3Aansfox11>1=msnans

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Ray's wife / then fiance', said she hit ( and allegedly spit on ) him, which caused him to retaliate and knock her silly.

Hit or spit, it's still no reason for him to lay fists on her face, or any part of her body.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Byte - how does that relate to chivalry ??

THG - really ? Then that makes you a woman beating thug as well.

Men don't punch girls. Period.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Unless you're in a boxing ring where both parties are suited up FOR boxing...well duh.

But 99/100 times there's never a reason for a male to throw haymakers @ a female. Restrain or put distance , but c'mon, you've got to be trolling now if you think ne one is gonna buy your " no apologies " crap.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're trolling now , tossing out straw men arguments right & left. No one said anything about allowing some woman to whale upon you and you just stand there, defenseless, & doing nothing.

I'm done here.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Byte - how does that relate to chivalry ??

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Originally posted by THGRRI:

This is how I see it and if I am accosted out in public by a women and have little choice. I WILL clock her.

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Byte - how does that relate to chivalry ??

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Treatin' girls like they can do no wrong even if they slap or punch a guy they're the fairer sex and need doors opened for them and all that is chivalry. And it actually perpetuates gender roles that oppress and inconvenience MEN, if not outright get them killed.

Like that whole women and children first thing in a rescue situation? Or how we only ever expect men to be soldiers what because I guess men are supposed to be expendable or something? That ain't right. :(

I don't like chivalry.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Baaaaah, you almost got me there. Much disappoint.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
I dont need doors opened for me, but I dont want tbem to be slammed in my face either, nor knocked down on the way through. Manners and courtesy in how you treat others, special consideration for people who need it...elderly, frail, disabled, very young, pregnant women.

No one should punch anyone.
People have the right to defend themselves against being physically hurt, but that should be reasonable. Restraing/deflecting are okay. Knocking unconcious and dragging someone around is not self defence - its violent rage, no matter who started it, its wrong. Men should be aware of the strength ratio usually involved, especially if you are an elite athlete.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

It's not so much a matter of NEED, but as Simon told Kaylee, it's a show of respect.

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Of course it is wrong to use violence. Steve knows that. I think all he was trying to get across is if you hit someone they may hit you back. Sound advice.

Now if the guy, especially such a large guy hits a women after being hit it is still outrageous behavior. That said if a women were to engage me physically who was not a loved one or family I might chose to do the same thing. I have no intention of being pummeled by someone of either gender.

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It's not so much a matter of NEED, but as Simon told Kaylee, it's a show of respect.

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Well I dont mind if someone opens a door for me of any gender, but I object the business of sitting in the car like a dummy waiting for the man to open the door (I know someone who does this).

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Of course it is wrong to use violence. Steve knows that. I think all he was trying to get across is if you hit someone they may hit you back. Sound advice.

Now if the guy, especially such a large guy hits a women after being hit it is still outrageous behavior. That said if a women were to engage me physically who was not a loved one or family I might chose to do the same thing. I have no intention of being pummeled by someone of either gender.

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I thought Whoopi's comments were way out of order. There is no excuse for what this guy did.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


But the important question is... if your date unlocks your door to let you in first, and then walks around to his door, do you reach over and unlock it for him ?

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Originally posted by THGRRI:


You know what. I am tired of these threads.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
It seems MD has misread much of what hasn't been explicitly explained, perhaps due to societal conventions and differences thereof. Or maybe the subject hits too close to home.

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Ravens cut RB Ray Rice after release of video


BALTIMORE (AP) — Ray Rice was let go by the Baltimore Ravens on Monday and suspended indefinitely by the NFL after a video was released showing the running back striking his then-fiancee in February.

The grainy video, released by TMZ Sports, shows Rice and Janay Palmer in an elevator at an Atlantic City casino. Each hits the other before Rice knocks Palmer off her feet and into a railing. Months ago, a TMZ video showed Rice dragging Palmer, now his wife, from the elevator at the Revel casino, which closed Sept. 2.

The Ravens said earlier Monday that they never saw the new video. Hours later, they sent out a one-sentence release:

''The Baltimore Ravens terminated the contract of RB Ray Rice this afternoon.''



http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/sports-general/20140908/Ravens-Ric
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And breaking news...

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Ravens cut RB Ray Rice after release of video


BALTIMORE (AP) — Ray Rice was let go by the Baltimore Ravens on Monday and suspended indefinitely by the NFL after a video was released showing the running back striking his then-fiancee in February.

The grainy video, released by TMZ Sports, shows Rice and Janay Palmer in an elevator at an Atlantic City casino. Each hits the other

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before Rice knocks Palmer off her feet and into a railing. Months ago, a TMZ video showed Rice dragging Palmer, now his wife, from the elevator at the Revel casino, which closed Sept. 2.

The Ravens said earlier Monday that they never saw the new video. Hours later, they sent out a one-sentence release:

''The Baltimore Ravens terminated the contract of RB Ray Rice this afternoon.''



http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/sports-general/20140908/Ravens-Ric
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So, a 2 game suspension AFTER apparently seeing the video is the best the NFL could muster ? And only when it is made public , does anyone actually do the right thing ?

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Ahhh, he should have been charged. or is assault against your partner still legal in America? Coz you know women like that kind of thing, right Jongs?

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I think that said the NFL suspended him indefinitely.

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