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Russia enacts 'draconian' law for bloggers and online media

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 8:57 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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new law imposing restrictions on users of social media has come into effect in Russia.

It means bloggers with more than 3,000 daily readers must register with the mass media regulator, Roskomnadzor, and conform to the regulations that govern the country's larger media outlets.

Internet companies will also be required to allow Russian authorities access to users' information.

One human rights group called the move "draconian".

The law was approved by Russia's upper house of parliament in April.

It includes measures to ensure that bloggers cannot remain anonymous, and states that social networks must maintain six months of data on its users.

The information must be stored on servers based in Russian territory, so that government authorities can gain access.

Russia has previously blocked sites belonging to opponents of Vladimir Putin, such as Garry Kasparov Russia has blocked the sites of opponents such as Garry Kasparov
Critics see it as the latest in a series of recent moves to curb internet freedom.

'Free expression'

Hugh Williamson, of New York-based Human Rights Watch, has called the law "another milestone in Russia's relentless crackdown on free expression".

"The internet is the last island of free expression in Russia and these draconian regulations are clearly aimed at putting it under government control," he added.

Opposition figures have used the internet to air their views, with some gaining millions of followers.

Commentators opposing Vladimir Putin often face restrictions in broadcast outlets and newspapers.

Russian bloggers are bracing themselves for the moment when Russia's new "information security law" comes into force on 1 August. Some already share advice on how to use proxy servers in order to access social media sites that, in their view, are under threat of being closed.

It is hard to see how the law will be enforced. The servers for most of the popular social media platforms that many Russians use are based outside Russia.

Many popular bloggers are already looking for, and apparently finding, ways to "cheat" the feature that counts page visits and keep their daily unique visitor numbers just under 3000, or to make sure that the statistics are hidden altogether.

Anton Nossik, who is considered Russia's "internet guru", wrote in his LiveJournal blog that the new law didn't threaten individual bloggers directly, but provided legal grounds to block popular social networks like Facebook, Twitter, LiveJournal and Google.

"The issue of banning all these platforms in Russia is a political one and it will be decided by only one person", Mr Nossik wrote, with a thinly veiled reference to President Vladimir Putin.

Critics blocked

Earlier in the year, Russia enacted a law that gave the government powers to block websites without explanation.

In March, Moscow blocked the blog of Mr Navalny, along with two news sites and a organisation run by Garry Kasparov - a vocal critic of the Russian government.

In a statement, Russia's prosecutor general's office said the blocks were imposed because of the sites' role in helping stage illegal protests.

Earlier this week, Twitter blocked access to an anti-Kremlin account that often publishes leaked government documents, following a request by Russia's federal communications agency Roskomnadzor.

'CIA project'

For many years, Russia had relatively lax internet laws.

However Moscow has recently changed its tune, with Mr Putin branding the internet an ongoing "CIA project".

He also claimed that the popular Russian search engine Yandex was controlled by foreign intelligence.

Two years ago, Russia enacted a law enabling authorities to blacklist and force certain websites offline without a trial.

The government said the legislation was designed to protect children from harmful internet content, such as pro-suicide or pornography websites.




http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28583669

"However Moscow has recently changed its tune, with Mr Putin branding the internet an ongoing "CIA project"."

Never knew Al Gore was CIA.

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 2:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


And although some high-powered weapons have been traced back to Russia

This is a claim I've seen many times, but I've never seen data to back it up.




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Saturday, August 2, 2014 2:50 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
And although some high-powered weapons have been traced back to Russia


This is a claim I've seen many times, but I've never seen data to back it up.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.



You mean you refuse to acknowledge all the evidence. There is a difference.


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Saturday, August 2, 2014 3:00 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


What evidence? Obama says? Kerry says? But hey, YOU claim there's EVIDENCE. So, go find it. Bring it back. It should be easy to find links.




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Saturday, August 2, 2014 3:29 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
And although some high-powered weapons have been traced back to Russia


This is a claim I've seen many times, but I've never seen data to back it up.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-releases-imag
es-it-says-show-russia-has-fired-artillery-over-border-into-ukraine/2014/07/27/f9190158-159d-11e4-9e3b-7f2f110c6265_story.html



"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 4:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Russia Provides Photos that Kiev Forces Deployed BUK Missiles In East Ukraine, Radar Proof Of Warplanes in MH17 Vicinity

http://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-provides-photos-that-kiev-forces-d
eployed-buk-missiles-in-east-ukraine-radar-proof-of-warplanes-in-mh17-vicinity/5392453


I may not have replied the first time you brought this up - I don't remember - but I dismissed it b/c there is equally credible (or not credible) evidence for the opposite claim. And though they say opposite things, they are both on equal footing in terms of my ability to analyze them independently and check them for manipulation. I'm not sure I believe either.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Saturday, August 2, 2014 11:09 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Russia Provides Photos that Kiev Forces Deployed BUK Missiles In East Ukraine, Radar Proof Of Warplanes in MH17 Vicinity

http://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-provides-photos-that-kiev-forces-d
eployed-buk-missiles-in-east-ukraine-radar-proof-of-warplanes-in-mh17-vicinity/5392453


I may not have replied the first time you brought this up - I don't remember - but I dismissed it b/c there is equally credible (or not credible) evidence for the opposite claim. And though they say opposite things, they are both on equal footing in terms of my ability to analyze them independently and check them for manipulation. I'm not sure I believe either.



Yeah. Globalresearch.ca.

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Globalresearch.ca (also under the domain name globalresearch.org) may best be described as the moonbat equivalent to WorldNetDaily. It is the website of the Montreal-based non-profit The Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG) founded by Michel Chossudovsky.

The website describes itself as an "independent research and media organization." Globalresearch.ca takes pride in being a reliable "alternative news" source serving as a major repository of a broad range of "news articles, in-depth reports and analysis on issues which are barely covered by the mainstream media" (such as the New World Order). Its politico-economic stance is strongly anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist, anti-militarist, "internationalist but anti-globalization." Its view of science, the economy and geopolitics seems to be broadly conspiracist.

While many of Globalresearch.ca's articles discuss legitimate humanitarian or environmental concerns, the site has a strong undercurrent of reality warping and bullshit throughout its pages, especially in relation to taking its news from Russia Today, along with other unreliable and/or open sources.

Despite presenting itself as a source of scholarly analysis, Globalresearch.ca mostly consists of polemics many of which accept (and use) conspiracy theories, pseudoscience and propaganda. The prevalent conspiracist strand relates to global power-elites (primarily governments and corporations) and their New World Order.[1] Specific featured conspiracy theories include those addressing 9/11,[2] vaccines,[3] genetic modification,[4] Zionism,[5][6] HAARP,[7] global warming,[8][9] and David Kelly.[10] Analyses of these issues tend follow the lines of the site's political biases.

Apparently, contributors to Globalresearch.ca consider information sourced from anyone who seems aligned to their ideology as reliable; during the 2011 Libyan civil war the site was an apologist for Muammar al-Gaddafi,[11] reproducing his propaganda and painting him as a paragon of a modern leader. In the 2014 Ukrainian crisis the site is taking the standard "anti-globalisation" stance against the Western side and falling into the ranks of imperial Russian propaganda instead.

It's no surprise then that the site has long become a magnet for radicals, fringe figures and whacko elements from the left in general. And ironically, it has more in common with its writers' enemies and wingnut rivals than they would ever admit.



http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch.ca

About what I'd expect from you. Why not just cite RT.com for all your diversions.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:08 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


It's Rule No. 1 in the Dictators and Tyrants Handbook

Control the propaganda machine.....................look also under Hitler.


SGG


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Originally posted by G:
Gods, they're going backwards - Putin wants to control everything.


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Sunday, August 3, 2014 2:51 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


About what I'd expect from you. Why not just cite RT.com for all your diversions.
Well, let's see, did I mention it wasn't in US national news? Yes, I'm pretty sure I mentioned it. But it WAS in the news in OTHER countries - like the UK - as you see.


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russia-only-needs-create-doubt-over-mh17-103
533084.html#awnhzpG

Russia Only Needs To Create Doubt Over MH17

http://mashable.com/2014/07/22/russia-mh17-plane-evidence/
Russia Lays Out Its MH17 Evidence

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/14/pictures-of-the-day-photos-
from-tuesday-15th-july-2014-world-cup-_n_5584840.html

Pictures Of The Day: Photos From Tuesday 15th July 2014
The Huffington Post UK





SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 7:33 AM

GEEZER

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
About what I'd expect from you. Why not just cite RT.com for all your diversions.

Well, let's see, did I mention it wasn't in US national news? Yes, I'm pretty sure I mentioned it. But it WAS in the news in OTHER countries - like the UK - as you see.


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russia-only-needs-create-doubt-over-mh17-103
533084.html#awnhzpG

Russia Only Needs To Create Doubt Over MH17

http://mashable.com/2014/07/22/russia-mh17-plane-evidence/
Russia Lays Out Its MH17 Evidence

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/14/pictures-of-the-day-photos-
from-tuesday-15th-july-2014-world-cup-_n_5584840.html

Pictures Of The Day: Photos From Tuesday 15th July 2014
The Huffington Post UK




Did you even read this stuff?

The top two articles note the Russian claims, and then debunk them.

The Huffington article has nothing about MH-17, just a picture of bomb damage in eastern Ukraine.

But back on topic, how do you feel about the increasing censorship of the internet in Russia?


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:50 AM

THGRRI


The problem here is we respond to 1kiki and Sig’s posts instead of declaring them propaganda machines and follow a course that ignores their future posts. Their opinions are bigoted and we cannot reverse their advancement of fiction over facts so why bother.

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:53 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Speaking of internet censorship ... one of the reasons why I'm so hot on the idea of people discovering how many rockets (and mortars, while we're at it!) the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) has fired into Gaza is because people will discover something else as well.

So, how about YOU, Geezer? You ready to look for information on the web?

BTW- did you know that the NSA considers anyone who uses Tor (an encrypted anonymizing site) to be an "extremist"? In other words, anyone who is interested is protecting their Constitutionally-guaranteed right of privacy is suspect, and specifically targeted by the NSA.

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Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Geezer

You wanted sources OTHER THAN Global Research (or I'm guessing or RT or al Jazeera) that reported on Russia's claims that Kiev had BUK units in the area. I gave you sources that had those reports. That Russia had that conference, made those claims and posted those photos (and radar data) - not in doubt. You want to be an ass and insist the press conference never happened? Go ahead. In fact, I encourage you to continue.




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