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Who do you think are the the good v bad people?

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Not many here willing to risk calling some out.

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Not many here willing to risk calling some out. Besides it will just turn into a typical name calling thread. Still I would love to see if the reasonable confront the ideologues and take them on. At least in the sense of having them tone it down to attract new talent to the threads. These stubborn biased discussion threads are a real turn off.

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Are you kidding? That's ALL it is. Obama is evil, Bush was evil, Hamas is evil, Israel is evil... it goes on and on. No subtleties, no nuances, just blind obedience to one's side & total condemnation of the other. We have been divided, and in the process, conquered.
The only winners presently are our 1% overlords.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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Not many here willing to risk calling some out. Besides it will just turn into a typical name calling thread. Still I would love to see if the reasonable confront the ideologues and take them on. At least in the sense of having them tone it down to attract new talent to the threads. These stubborn biased discussion threads are a real turn off.

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Has no one here seen this cartoon and absorbed its message, which has been proven true billions of times daily? Your internet postings cannot change strange minds. It's like using thought waves on them. That doesn't work, either, because you are not a Jedi Knight.

Please don't change your mind based on cartoon reasoning. Be stubborn and strong.

Duty Calls
http://xkcd.com/386/

"What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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I am speaking about the personalities here. Not who or what topic they chose to post about but instead the hatred and misrepresentation of the truth in theirs posts.

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A little tired of good/bad black/white us vs. them mentality here...

Firefly & Serenity explored shades of GREY, but more folk here than not choose to be fucking cheeleaders for their 'side'.

'Scuse me while I take a break from this nonsense. Imma watch Demolition Man for some centerist recharge...

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Why not just admit the obvious truth? The 20 or so liberals here in RWED simply don't want any conservatives around, all 3 or 4 of us.

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Note that when asked who you think "bad" versus "good" you have provided no names.

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I don't see you as being capable of cohesive thought. You appear to be all over the map with what you say from one post to the next.

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I don't see you as being capable of cohesive thought. You appear to be all over the map with what you say from one post to the next.

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I'm currently in my Shaolin Monk phase. It's a quasi-Buddhist thing. Wait a couple of days & I might get back to my angry Humanist activist thing & call you some more names.

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Not what I am looking for from you. Calm is better.

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A little tired of good/bad black/white us vs. them mentality here...

Firefly & Serenity explored shades of GREY, but more folk here than not choose to be fucking cheeleaders for their 'side'.

'Scuse me while I take a break from this nonsense. Imma watch Demolition Man for some centerist recharge...

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the 2013 CGI Captain Harlock movie

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Keep burning those bridges, just like I did when I went full on crazy because I felt "betrayed" by people on this board for some reason.

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I am speaking about the personalities here. Not who or what topic they chose to post about but instead the hatred and misrepresentation of the truth in theirs posts.

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You miss the entire point of this thread.
It's all good though. Proves you're Human.

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Why not just admit the obvious truth? The 20 or so liberals here in RWED simply don't want any conservatives around, all 3 or 4 of us.

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You miss the entire point of this thread. But it's all good. Proves you're Human.
Conservatives not dogmatically & divisively programmed have as much to offer in a discussion as Liberals similarly unconditioned. Science fiction tends to attract a progressive mindset, not regressive. It stands to reason that since Conservatives are a tad more motivated by fear tactics of the PTB than Liberals, they will be likely to face scorn from SF fans on a site like this one. However, the Liberal contingent fails in the reality department in regards to its overenthusiastic backlash to the Conservative fear motivation. One nearly cancels the other out.
And that is and always has been the plan.

"Glass? Who gives a shit about glass?"

Yippie kai-yay, motherfuckers.

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And, can I ask a question here: How many of you have even watched Firefly/Serenity recently? I just did a marathon of my Firefly DVD's ending with my new Blu Ray of Serenity.
Has this place (RWED) simply become a site to conveniently spew unmoderated partisan hatred? Have you all forgotten what sparked this corner of the 'Verse? The examination of Humanity Joss rolled out?

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There are barely 20 people posting here. And of those I doubt there are many true liberals. Just hating and laughing at republiclowns does not make someone a "Liberal."

Jongs
AU
Whozit
Chris
G
Geezer
Byte
JSF
Signym
KPO
Magons
Agent
Kiki
THGGRI

Only occasionally:
MAL4
Frem
Two
ElvisChrist
Reaverfan
OldEngland
OONJ

Faulty Replican maths...

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What!? I don't even rate an occassional or a maybe. Well, explains that when I talk I feel like I am seldom listened too.

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Why not just admit the obvious truth? The 20 or so liberals here in RWED simply don't want any conservatives around, all 3 or 4 of us.

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There are barely 20 people posting here. And of those I doubt there are many true liberals. Just hating and laughing at republiclowns does not make someone a "Liberal."

Jongs
AU
Whozit
Chris
G
Geezer
Byte
JSF
Signym
KPO
Magons
Agent
Kiki
THGGRI

Only occasionally:
MAL4
Frem
Two
ElvisChrist
Reaverfan
OldEngland
OONJ

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What!? I don't even rate an occassional or a maybe. Well, explains that when I talk I feel like I am seldom listened too.

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You know Mal4Prez, you really have started trolling the bejesus out of us. If I were here more often and still invested about what happens in this pit, I might even have been concerned at one time.

Now, all I feel is a kind of empty nihilism and a wish to watch everything fall to ruin. I salute you. From one troll to another: troll away.

But this board is utterly and completely toxic, and chris is right about the partisan madness, and you know it. Calling him a coward is indicative that you're under it's sway. Keep burning those bridges, just like I did when I went full on crazy because I felt "betrayed" by people on this board for some reason.

But as you told me, I was crazy, and you knew that because you'd done the same thing once upon a time. Surprise surprise, history repeats itself once again.

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You seem to lack comprehension regarding the various definitions of progressive, regressive, liberal, conservative [blagh blagh woof woof] This does, however, explain a lot about your views and posts.

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Okay, you've got me. I don't want any conservatives around. Time to bring back the guillotin!

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Not who or what topic they chose to post about but instead the hatred and misrepresentation of the truth in theirs[sic] posts.

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For example: sig. She straightforward told me that she doesn't like Obama anymore so she has started always taking the "anti-liberal" stance. How is an honest, meaningful discussion possible with a brain like that? It isn't, so I won't try. I will only mock her and those who somehow continue to convince themselves that she's some bastion of reason.

sig logic: "I don't like Obama so I don't like libs so any evidence suggesting that Russia has been bad in the Ukraine must have been falsified!"

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Actually, MAL4, the evolution went something like this... in the depth of a historic meltdown, the worst since 1929, I think I was hoping for FDR, or at least a JFK. What we got was ... Obama. And what I found, after several years of dawning truth, was that there was a group of people who were still making excuses for Obama, despite the fact that he betrayed them many times. That the people who were still making excuses seemed to be as incapable of accepting uncomfortable facts as the right wing.

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Actually, MAL4, the evolution went something like this... in the depth of a historic meltdown, the worst since 1929, I think I was hoping for FDR, or at least a JFK. What we got was ... Obama. And what I found, after several years of dawning truth, was that there was a group of people who were still making excuses for Obama, despite the fact that he betrayed them many times. That the people who were still making excuses seemed to be as incapable of accepting uncomfortable facts as the right wing.- signy
Yadda yadda yadda.
The O disappointed you so now you blindly cling to anyone not O. I bet that's exactly what you accuse others of: "Hey," you imagine all us inferior stupid folks saying, "Obama's not Bush, so he's gotta be good and we'll love him forever no matter what!" Is that what you think? Wake up chickie. That's not what I'm saying or have ever said. I dare you to find anyone who has. Double dog dare.

You, on the other hand, continue to use that exact flawed approach, openly and without apology. "Hey, Putin's not Obama, so he's gotta be good!"

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Every argument you have posted lately is 100% as lame as that. I know you and your yes-men buddies won't believe it, but I would own up to being wrong about you if I saw you making any kind of logical argument based on anything but your prejudiced bias - prejudice and bias that you openly and proudly admit and adhere to.

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As you proudly proclaim, you now come into threads determined to take one side and not another. Implicit in that statement is your black/white mentality, your assumption that you have the ability and right to judge every poster to be "liberal" or "con" so you decide whether to support them or not - again, based purely on your bias and your hatred of O rather than the actual content of anyone's posts.

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Actually, MAL4, the evolution went something like this... in the depth of a historic meltdown, the worst since 1929, I think I was hoping for FDR, or at least a JFK. What we got was ... Obama. And what I found, after several years of dawning truth, was that there was a group of people who were still making excuses for Obama, despite the fact that he betrayed them many times. That the people who were still making excuses seemed to be as incapable of accepting uncomfortable facts as the right wing.

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It bothers me that I am always coming to the defense of the President but the extremes here constantly have me trying to pull them back into reality. Sig is apparently cranky because Obama after being elected turned out not to be a leftist extremist"

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keeps clamoring he has disappeared off the world stage on one hand while complaining about all we do with the other. Once again we have the major players in the Middle East happy we are doing something against IS even though what is happening is a nightmare for Iran. For years now we have been hearing how we handed Iraq to Iran on a silver platter. Where is the world? Why don’t they turn their sanctimonious attitudes into action.

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Nothing defines a person more than what they do when they think no one is looking. I define Obama for is what he did IN SECRET, when even the Repubs ... heck, even when the Democrats... didn't know what was going on. (NSA spying, TPP/TTIP negotiations, extra-judicial killing of citizens, foreign policy and black ops, bank bailouts and bank bail-ins.)

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And when he ran into Republican opposition, he often had 60 -80% of the people behind him (single payer/ public option; minimum wage increase). Are you trying to tell me that Obama's team can't parlay massive public support into a win?

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If that's the case, there are several options and none of them good:

1) Obama's team is weak. 2) Obama's team is distracted from it's "real work" (besides representing the people). 3) The system is so totally screwed up that massive popular support doesn't mean much anymore, in this so-called democracy.

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You seem to lack comprehension regarding the various definitions of progressive, regressive, liberal, conservative [blagh blagh woof woof] This does, however, explain a lot about your views and posts.

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Your endeavorous actions are pathetically lethargic and lacking in authenticity.

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1) Obama's team is weak. 2) Obama's team is distracted from it's "real work" (besides representing the people). 3) The system is so totally screwed up that massive popular support doesn't mean much anymore, in this so-called democracy. -signy

No to 1, no to 2 and yes to 3.-Thugr

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There are barely 20 people posting here. And of those I doubt there are many true liberals. Just hating and laughing at republiclowns does not make someone a "Liberal."

Jongs
AU
Whozit
Chris
G
Geezer
Byte
JSF
Signym
KPO
Magons
Agent
Kiki
THGGRI
ShinyGoodGuy
NewOldBrowncoat

Only occasionally:
Brenda
MAL4
Frem
Two
ElvisChrist
Reaverfan
OldEngland
OONJ

Faulty Replican maths...

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1) Obama's team is weak. 2) Obama's team is distracted from it's "real work" (besides representing the people). 3) The system is so totally screwed up that massive popular support doesn't mean much anymore, in this so-called democracy. -SIGNY

No to 1, no to 2 and yes to 3.-THUGR

So, it sounds like you don't think our democracy is working. Obviously, you must hate America!-SIGNY

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