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No plan - yet. Despite knowing about ISIS for over a year now.
Tuesday, September 2, 2014 3:41 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:39 PM
JONGSSTRAW
Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:26 PM
ELVISCHRIST
Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:40 PM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:58 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: What's your plan? What's Congress's plan?
Wednesday, September 3, 2014 12:53 AM
Wednesday, September 3, 2014 11:03 AM
Wednesday, September 3, 2014 11:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: What's your plan? What's Congress's plan? Obama, President that he is, knew. For over a year. Still has no plan. Called Isis the JV team. This isn't about me,congress, or W. Stop trying to deflect. Admit that this prez is clueless.
Wednesday, September 3, 2014 1:25 PM
Wednesday, September 3, 2014 2:15 PM
Quote: During a joint news conference with Estonian President Toomas Hendrik Ilves in Estonia ahead of the NATO summit in Wales this week, Obama spoke of managing ISIL as well as his plans to “degrade and destroy” the group. Critics charge that his comments set two conflicting goals for dealing with future violence. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/laura-ingraham-obama-isil-react-110545.html#ixzz3CHyz1FwL
Wednesday, September 3, 2014 3:15 PM
Wednesday, September 3, 2014 4:23 PM
Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:37 AM
Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:46 AM
Thursday, September 4, 2014 4:10 AM
Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ELVISCHRIST: I still have yet to hear ANYONE- here, on TV, or anywhere - come up with a viable plan for dealing with this situation.
Quote: What's the solution? More bombs? More invasion and occupation? Clearly those have worked out so well in Iraq, of course we should probably do that again, right? So what's the plan?
Thursday, September 4, 2014 10:54 AM
Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:07 AM
Quote:Orginally posted by AURaptor: No one else is President and Commander in Chief.
Quote:Send them to hell, just like Joe Biden so boldly claimed.
Quote:Not merely manage them, like they're some sort of money market account.
Quote:At least Rand Paul comes to a decision, and doesn't switch positions in mid speech, giving allies and enemies no CLUE from where he comes. Funny, when others have a change of view, they're flip-flopping.
Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:19 AM
Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: They're called PDB's for a reason. Ask George.
Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Orginally posted by AURaptor: No one else is President and Commander in Chief. Some people are too stupid to understand that only the President can order military action.
Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: They're called PDB's for a reason. Ask George. Fixed.
Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: They're called PDB's for a reason. Ask George. Fixed. Not fixed, you're flat out lying. Biden said send them to hell. You can't deal with it, so you retreat to your ' blame W ' mantra as you suck your thumb as you curl up in the fetal position.
Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:23 PM
Thursday, September 4, 2014 2:40 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:The king, who is already facing widespread criticism for failing to implement real reforms and combat corruption, has begun to flirt with the Salafi [Wahhabi] group in a desperate bid to win its sympathy. By flirting with these fundamentalists, King Abdullah is also hoping to win them to his side in his confrontation with the kingdom's popular and influential Muslim Brotherhood.
Quote:(Reuters) - Radical Islamists have seized control of 150 to 200 mosques and prayer halls around Tunisia this year, a senior religious official said Wednesday. Official control over Tunisia's 5,000 mosques and small prayer halls has relaxed since the January revolution that toppled autocratic president Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali, allowing radicals to occupy some of them, Jamel Oueslati told Reuters.
Thursday, September 4, 2014 3:50 PM
Thursday, September 4, 2014 4:06 PM
Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:50 PM
Thursday, September 4, 2014 7:59 PM
Thursday, September 4, 2014 8:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: I hav a plan. Airdrop boxez uv old Playboy magazinez over the entire goram rejun. Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Syria... everywhere. It'l be dam near impossible to recroot young men into a relijun that demandz that wimin must be covered hed to toe wen their hormone controlled brainz hav a clue about wut theyd be missing. Granted, its mostly a longer term solution than an immediate fix for the ISIS problem, but thats how I think. And even so, a saturation Playboy bombing mission rite on their camps coud possibly upset their unity. ---------------------------- DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early http://www.nooalf.com
Thursday, September 4, 2014 10:44 PM
THGRRI
Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:47 PM
Friday, September 5, 2014 12:39 AM
Friday, September 5, 2014 1:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: Are you saying that the president should act unilaterally without seeking authorization from Congress?
Quote: What happened last time he did such a thing?
Quote: What was YOUR response?
Friday, September 5, 2014 1:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: The President is doing exactly what I said he should do a month ago. Try and remember what that was rappy because it is starting to come out why he is doing what he is doing. More and more the experts are confirming he is following the right path. Many are doing this by what they say needs to occur for a successful outcome. What needs to occur is what he is pursuing.
Friday, September 5, 2014 2:54 AM
Friday, September 5, 2014 8:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: Are you saying that the president should act unilaterally without seeking authorization from Congress? That's exactly the opposite of what my reply above stated. Congratulations. You're an idiot. Quote: What happened last time he did such a thing? No idea what you're asking here. Be less vague. Quote: What was YOUR response?
Friday, September 5, 2014 9:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: Thanks for proving once again how big an idiot you are, especialy ( especially ) when it comes to your own history. President Obama called on Congress to authorize use of military force against Syria. The response? Crickets.
Quote: Prior to that, he got a lot of flak - including from YOU, right here on this board - for unilaterally ordering military action (air strikes) against Libya.
Quote: So quit whining about what HE is doing, and start talking to your idiots in Congress.
Quote: It's called "checks and balances"; you really should read the Constitution some day. Also, bear in mind that the last time anybody listened to the GOP and you neocons, it only cost us 4000-plus American lives and well over a trillion dollars and counting. So pardon me if I don't just take your word for it that you know what the hell you're talking about, because we've all seen that that's just not the case.
Friday, September 5, 2014 10:32 AM
Friday, September 5, 2014 10:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Yeah, that's not anywhere near an accurate recount of the Iraq war, but for you, that's as good as anyone can expect. I know a ton of a lot more than you, and it shows.
Friday, September 5, 2014 11:54 AM
STORYMARK
Friday, September 5, 2014 12:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by ElvisChrist: So as you've just shown, you'll complain when Obama takes action, you'll complain when he doesn't, and you'll support any Republican when they take action, and support them when they don't. I'm starting to sense a pattern here. I'm beginning to think you're nothing but a partisan hack.
Friday, September 5, 2014 12:46 PM
Friday, September 5, 2014 1:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by THGRRI: The President is doing exactly what I said he should do a month ago. Try and remember what that was rappy because it is starting to come out why he is doing what he is doing. More and more the experts are confirming he is following the right path. Many are doing this by what they say needs to occur for a successful outcome. What needs to occur is what he is pursuing. Name ONE expert who agrees with what he's doing. Because all the ones I've heard speak on the matter, as well as members of BOTH parties in Congress tend to agree that he's dithering and bumbling, and not doing much of anything at all. More of the 'day late, a dollar short ' routine. And he's flip flopping, so much so, that he can't even keep a straight story with in the context of one gorram SPEECH ! You're basically full of go-se here. He's not pursuing any real outcome, because you can't claim he's trying to destroy ISIL while at the same time.
Friday, September 5, 2014 4:44 PM
Friday, September 5, 2014 5:18 PM
Friday, September 5, 2014 5:21 PM
Friday, September 5, 2014 6:02 PM
Quote: "The United States military does consider ISIL [ISIS] a threat to, initially to the region and our close allies, longer term to the United States of America," Dempsey said in a keynote speech to the annual Aspen Security Forum, according to The Washington Free Beacon. "And therefore we are preparing a strategy that has a series of options to present to our elected leaders on how we can initially contain, eventually disrupt, and finally defeat ISIL over time." http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/dempsey-isis-us-response/2014/07/25/id/584916/#ixzz3CTuZXbjD
Friday, September 5, 2014 9:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: TH what ever... Ron Paul, the kook himself, is the ONLY member of Congress, from EITHER PARTY , who thinks what Obama is doing is right. Obama Has No Middle East Strategy? Good! Last week President Obama admitted that his administration has not worked out a strategy on how to deal with the emergence of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) as a dominant force in the Middle East. However, as ISIS continues its march through Syria and Iraq, many in the US administration believe it is, in the words of Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, a threat "beyond anything we have ever seen." Predictably, the neocons attacked the president's speech. They believe the solution to any problem is more bombs and troops on the ground, so they cannot understand the president's hesitation. http://townhall.com/columnists/ronpaul/2014/09/03/obama-has-no-middle-east-strategy-good-n1886343 Also, why do you INSIST on referring to the terrorist group as ICEL ?? Seriously, what's up w/ that ? EC - Funny, General Dempsey says we DO have plan, while Obama continues to dither. Quote: "The United States military does consider ISIL [ISIS] a threat to, initially to the region and our close allies, longer term to the United States of America," Dempsey said in a keynote speech to the annual Aspen Security Forum, according to The Washington Free Beacon. "And therefore we are preparing a strategy that has a series of options to present to our elected leaders on how we can initially contain, eventually disrupt, and finally defeat ISIL over time." http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/dempsey-isis-us-response/2014/07/25/id/584916/#ixzz3CTuZXbjD
Saturday, September 6, 2014 1:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: EC - Funny, General Dempsey says we DO have plan, while Obama continues to dither. Quote: "The United States military does consider ISIL [ISIS] a threat to, initially to the region and our close allies, longer term to the United States of America," Dempsey said in a keynote speech to the annual Aspen Security Forum, according to The Washington Free Beacon. "And therefore we are preparing a strategy that has a series of options to present to our elected leaders on how we can initially contain, eventually disrupt, and finally defeat ISIL over time." http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/dempsey-isis-us-response/2014/07/25/id/584916/#ixzz3CTuZXbjD
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