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Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:24 PM
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Quote: North American Union to Replace USA? by Jerome R. Corsi Human Events May 19, 2006 President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy. Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada. President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed. The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union: Quote: Building a North American Community At their meeting in Waco, Texas, at the end of March 2005, U.S. President George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin committed their governments to a path of cooperation and joint action. We welcome this important development and offer this report to add urgency and specific recommendations to strengthen their efforts. www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf What is the plan? Simple, erase the borders. The plan is contained in a "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" little noticed when President Bush and President Fox created it in March 2005: Quote:In March 2005, the leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States adopted a Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), establishing ministerial-level working groups to address key security and economic issues facing North America and setting a short deadline for reporting progress back to their governments. President Bush described the significance of the SPP as putting forward a common commitment "to markets and democracy, freedom and trade, and mutual prosperity and security." The policy framework articulated by the three leaders is a significant commitment that will benefit from broad discussion and advice. The Task Force is pleased to provide specific advice on how the partnership can be pursued and realized. To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America. The perspective of the CFR report allows us to see President Bush's speech to the nation as nothing more than public relations posturing and window dressing. No wonder President Vincente Fox called President Bush in a panic after the speech. How could the President go back on his word to Mexico by actually securing our border? Not to worry, President Bush reassured President Fox. The National Guard on the border were only temporary, meant to last only as long until the public forgets about the issue, as has always been the case in the past. The North American Union plan, which Vincente Fox has every reason to presume President Bush is still following, calls for the only border to be around the North American Union -- not between any of these countries. Or, as the CFR report stated: Quote:The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramatically diminishing the need for the current intensity of the governments’ physical control of cross-border traffic, travel, and trade within North America. A long-term goal for a North American border action plan should be joint screening of travelers from third countries at their first point of entry into North America and the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America. Discovering connections like this between the CFR recommendations and Bush administration policy gives credence to the argument that President Bush favors amnesty and open borders, as he originally said. Moreover, President Bush most likely continues to consider groups such as the Minuteman Project to be "vigilantes," as he has also said in response to a reporter's question during the March 2005 meeting with President Fox. Why doesn’t President Bush just tell the truth? His secret agenda is to dissolve the United States of America into the North American Union. The administration has no intent to secure the border, or to enforce rigorously existing immigration laws. Securing our border with Mexico is evidently one of the jobs President Bush just won't do. If a fence is going to be built on our border with Mexico, evidently the Minuteman Project is going to have to build the fence themselves. Will President Bush protect America's sovereignty, or is this too a job the Minuteman Project will have to do for him? www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?print=yes&id=14965 www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/north_american_union_replace_usa.htm www.michellemalkin.com/archives/004869.htm
Quote: Building a North American Community At their meeting in Waco, Texas, at the end of March 2005, U.S. President George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin committed their governments to a path of cooperation and joint action. We welcome this important development and offer this report to add urgency and specific recommendations to strengthen their efforts. www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf
Quote:In March 2005, the leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States adopted a Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), establishing ministerial-level working groups to address key security and economic issues facing North America and setting a short deadline for reporting progress back to their governments. President Bush described the significance of the SPP as putting forward a common commitment "to markets and democracy, freedom and trade, and mutual prosperity and security." The policy framework articulated by the three leaders is a significant commitment that will benefit from broad discussion and advice. The Task Force is pleased to provide specific advice on how the partnership can be pursued and realized. To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America.
Quote:The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramatically diminishing the need for the current intensity of the governments’ physical control of cross-border traffic, travel, and trade within North America. A long-term goal for a North American border action plan should be joint screening of travelers from third countries at their first point of entry into North America and the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America.
Quote: Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 193-Million New Legal Immigrants over the Next Twenty Years by Robert Rector Heritage Foundation May 15, 2006 If enacted, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S.2611) would be the most dramatic change in immigration law in 80 years, allowing an estimated 103 million persons to legally immigrate to the U.S. over the next 20 years—fully one-third of the current population of the United States. The maximum number that could legally enter would be almost 200 million over twenty years—over 180 million more legal immigrants than current law permits. Much attention has been given to the fact that the bill grants amnesty to some 10 million illegal immigrants. Little or no attention has been given to the fact that the bill would quintuple the rate of legal immigration into the United States, raising, over time, the inflow of legal immigrants from around one million per year to over five million per year. The impact of this increase in legal immigration dwarfs the magnitude of the amnesty provisions. In contrast to the 103 million immigrants permitted under CIRA, current law allows 19 million legal immigrants over the next twenty years. Relative to current law, then, CIRA would add an extra 84 million legal immigrants to the nation’s population. CIRA offers amnesty and citizenship to 85 percent of the nation’s current 11.9 million illegal immigrants. (sic) www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm
Quote: GOLDWATER SEES ELITIST SENTIMENTS THREATENING LIBERTIES By U.S. Senator Barry M. Goldwater (1979) www.cfr.org www.foreignaffairs.org "Their syllogistic argument goes like this: THE COUNCIL HAS DOMINATED AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY SINCE 1945. ALL AMERICAN POLICY DECISIONS HAVE RESULTED IN LOSSES TO THE COMMUNISTS. Therefore, all members of the council are communist sympathizers. "Many of the policies advocated by the council have been damaging to the cause of freedom and particularly to the United States. But this is not because the members are communists or communist sympathizers. This explanation of our foreign policy reversals is too pat, too simplistic. "I believe that the Council on Foreign Relations and its ancillary elitist groups are indifferent to communism. They have no ideological anchors. IN THEIR PURSUIT OF A NEW WORLD ORDER, THEY ARE PREPARED TO DEAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE WITH A COMMUNIST STATE, A SOCIALIST STATE, a democratic state, a monarchy, an oligarchy - its all the same to them. "THEIR GOAL IS TO impose a benign stability on the quarreling family of nations through merger and consolidation. THEY SEE THE ELIMINATION OF NATIONAL BOUNDARIES, THE SUPPRESSION OF RACIAL AND ETHNIC LOYALTIES, as the most expeditious avenue to world peace. They believe economic competition is the root cause of international tension. "Perhaps if the council's vision of the future were realized, it would reduce wars, lessen poverty and bring about a more efficient utilization of the world's resources. To my mind, THIS WOULD INEVITABLY BE ACCOMPANIED BY A LOSS IN PERSONAL FREEDOM OF CHOICE AND RE-ESTABLISHMENT OF THE RESTRAINTS THAT PROVOKED THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. "THE INSTITUTE OF PACIFIC RELATIONS WAS BEHIND THE DECISION TO CUT OFF AID TO CHIANG KAI-SHEK UNLESS HE EMBRACED THE COMMUNISTS, AND THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS IS THE PARENT RGANIZATION OF THE INSTITUTE OF PACIFIC RELATIONS. "In 1962, Nelson Rockefeller (founder of World Trade Center), in a lecture at Harvard University on the interdependence of nations in the modern world, said: "And so the nation-state, standing alone, threatens in many ways to seem as anachronistic as the Greek city-state eventually became in ancient times." "Everything he said was true. We are dependent on other nations for raw materials and for markets. It is necessary to have defense alliances with other nations in order to balance the military power of those who would destroy us. "WHERE I DIFFER FROM Rockefeller is in the suggestion that to achieve this new federalism, THE UNITED STATES MUST SUBMERGE ITS NATIONAL IDENTITY AND SURRENDER SUBSTANTIAL MATTERS OF SOVEREIGNTY TO A NEW POLITICAL ORDER. "Whereas the council on Foreign Relations is distinctly national, representation is allocated equally to Western Europe, Japan and the United States. It is intended to act as the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests BY SEIZING CONTROL OF THE POLITICAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. "ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI AND DAVID ROCKEFELLER SCREENED AND SELECTED EVERY INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN SHAPING AND ADMINISTERING THE PROPOSED NEW WORLD ORDER. Full Text and partial list of CFR members: www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/multi/goldwatr.html
Quote: Current bank notes in use in Canada $2 - Queen Elizabeth II / Robins $5 - Sir Wilfrid Laurier / Belted Kingfisher $10 - Sir John A. Macdonald / Osprey in flight $20 - Queen Elizabeth II / Common Loon $50 - William Lyon Mackenzie King / Snowy Owl $100 - Sir Robert Borden / Canada Goose $1,000 - Queen Elizabeth II / Landscape with Pine Grosbeak www.monarchyfreecanada.org/currency_facts.htm www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes/general/character/2001-04_20.html
Quote:"There is a chance for the President of the United States to use this disaster to carry out what his father - a phrase his father used I think only once, and it hasn't been used since - and that is a New World Order." -US senator Gary Hart, Council on Foreign Relations Corp, CSPAN TV, September 12, 2001
Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:24 PM
REAVERMAN
Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:29 PM
Quote: Hopefuls chided by party By Mike Linn Montgomery Advertiser Alabama's Democratic Party is distancing itself from two Democratic candidates for state office who think all illegal immigrants must leave or be killed. Party officials described the platforms of candidates Larry Darby and Harry Lyon as ridiculous, unconstitutional and offensive. Darby is running for attorney general, and Lyon is a gubernatorial candidate. Both agree the influx of illegal immigration into Alabama must be stopped, either through public hangings or martial law. The party didn't know the men's views before they qualified, said Jim Spearman, the party's executive director. Spearman learned of Lyon's views from the Montgomery Advertiser. In a statement Friday, the party said Darby would remain on the ballot as a Democrat because there was no formal challenge against him within the timeframe set by its bylaws. Spearman declined to speculate about Lyon. "His views ... were offensive to many people, across the board," Spearman said of Darby. "It's an embarrassment to the party." Lyon said if elected, he would sponsor a law to get all illegal immigrants out of the state within 90 days, or be hanged in public. "It would only take five or 10 getting killed and broadcast on CNN for it to send a clear message to not set foot in Alabama," said Lyon, a Pelham lawyer. "Anybody that breaks into my home is a threat to my life. I remember the Alamo." "If he's willing to have public hangings of Mexicans, that sounds like he's the right man for the job," Darby said. Darby said if elected he would ask the governor to institute martial law to stop the influx of illegal immigrants into Alabama. If illegal immigrants attempt to evade law enforcement, they "should be shot on sight," he said. He said the number of Jews killed in World War II has been grossly exaggerated, and Jews must leave if the United States is to save itself. "It would be good for Iran to blow Israel off the map," he said. www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060520/NEWS/605200332/1001
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:59 AM
BIGDAMNNOBODY
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: God save uSA. God damn the Queen of Canada.
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:11 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by reaverman: same old crap from PN.
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:15 AM
OLDENGLANDDRY
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: Did your skool teach you about the Council on Foreign Relations Secret Society? Quote: North American Union to Replace USA? by Jerome R. Corsi Human Events May 19, 2006 President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy. Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada. President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed. The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union: Quote: Building a North American Community At their meeting in Waco, Texas, at the end of March 2005, U.S. President George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin committed their governments to a path of cooperation and joint action. We welcome this important development and offer this report to add urgency and specific recommendations to strengthen their efforts. www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf What is the plan? Simple, erase the borders. The plan is contained in a "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" little noticed when President Bush and President Fox created it in March 2005: Quote:In March 2005, the leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States adopted a Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), establishing ministerial-level working groups to address key security and economic issues facing North America and setting a short deadline for reporting progress back to their governments. President Bush described the significance of the SPP as putting forward a common commitment "to markets and democracy, freedom and trade, and mutual prosperity and security." The policy framework articulated by the three leaders is a significant commitment that will benefit from broad discussion and advice. The Task Force is pleased to provide specific advice on how the partnership can be pursued and realized. To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America. The perspective of the CFR report allows us to see President Bush's speech to the nation as nothing more than public relations posturing and window dressing. No wonder President Vincente Fox called President Bush in a panic after the speech. How could the President go back on his word to Mexico by actually securing our border? Not to worry, President Bush reassured President Fox. The National Guard on the border were only temporary, meant to last only as long until the public forgets about the issue, as has always been the case in the past. The North American Union plan, which Vincente Fox has every reason to presume President Bush is still following, calls for the only border to be around the North American Union -- not between any of these countries. Or, as the CFR report stated: Quote:The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramatically diminishing the need for the current intensity of the governments’ physical control of cross-border traffic, travel, and trade within North America. A long-term goal for a North American border action plan should be joint screening of travelers from third countries at their first point of entry into North America and the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America. Discovering connections like this between the CFR recommendations and Bush administration policy gives credence to the argument that President Bush favors amnesty and open borders, as he originally said. Moreover, President Bush most likely continues to consider groups such as the Minuteman Project to be "vigilantes," as he has also said in response to a reporter's question during the March 2005 meeting with President Fox. Why doesn’t President Bush just tell the truth? His secret agenda is to dissolve the United States of America into the North American Union. The administration has no intent to secure the border, or to enforce rigorously existing immigration laws. Securing our border with Mexico is evidently one of the jobs President Bush just won't do. If a fence is going to be built on our border with Mexico, evidently the Minuteman Project is going to have to build the fence themselves. Will President Bush protect America's sovereignty, or is this too a job the Minuteman Project will have to do for him? www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?print=yes&id=14965 www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/north_american_union_replace_usa.htm www.michellemalkin.com/archives/004869.htm Just what USA needs - 200-million illegal aliens in the next 20 years. CFR Inc is a "secretive society" with 3,500 members, HQed in New York City, as seen on History Channel TV's "Secret Societies". Quote: GOLDWATER SEES ELITIST SENTIMENTS THREATENING LIBERTIES By U.S. Senator Barry M. Goldwater (1979) www.cfr.org www.foreignaffairs.org "Their syllogistic argument goes like this: THE COUNCIL HAS DOMINATED AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY SINCE 1945. ALL AMERICAN POLICY DECISIONS HAVE RESULTED IN LOSSES TO THE COMMUNISTS. Therefore, all members of the council are communist sympathizers. "Many of the policies advocated by the council have been damaging to the cause of freedom and particularly to the United States. But this is not because the members are communists or communist sympathizers. This explanation of our foreign policy reversals is too pat, too simplistic. "I believe that the Council on Foreign Relations and its ancillary elitist groups are indifferent to communism. They have no ideological anchors. IN THEIR PURSUIT OF A NEW WORLD ORDER, THEY ARE PREPARED TO DEAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE WITH A COMMUNIST STATE, A SOCIALIST STATE, a democratic state, a monarchy, an oligarchy - its all the same to them. "THEIR GOAL IS TO impose a benign stability on the quarreling family of nations through merger and consolidation. THEY SEE THE ELIMINATION OF NATIONAL BOUNDARIES, THE SUPPRESSION OF RACIAL AND ETHNIC LOYALTIES, as the most expeditious avenue to world peace. They believe economic competition is the root cause of international tension. "Perhaps if the council's vision of the future were realized, it would reduce wars, lessen poverty and bring about a more efficient utilization of the world's resources. To my mind, THIS WOULD INEVITABLY BE ACCOMPANIED BY A LOSS IN PERSONAL FREEDOM OF CHOICE AND RE-ESTABLISHMENT OF THE RESTRAINTS THAT PROVOKED THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. "THE INSTITUTE OF PACIFIC RELATIONS WAS BEHIND THE DECISION TO CUT OFF AID TO CHIANG KAI-SHEK UNLESS HE EMBRACED THE COMMUNISTS, AND THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS IS THE PARENT RGANIZATION OF THE INSTITUTE OF PACIFIC RELATIONS. "In 1962, Nelson Rockefeller (founder of World Trade Center), in a lecture at Harvard University on the interdependence of nations in the modern world, said: "And so the nation-state, standing alone, threatens in many ways to seem as anachronistic as the Greek city-state eventually became in ancient times." "Everything he said was true. We are dependent on other nations for raw materials and for markets. It is necessary to have defense alliances with other nations in order to balance the military power of those who would destroy us. "WHERE I DIFFER FROM Rockefeller is in the suggestion that to achieve this new federalism, THE UNITED STATES MUST SUBMERGE ITS NATIONAL IDENTITY AND SURRENDER SUBSTANTIAL MATTERS OF SOVEREIGNTY TO A NEW POLITICAL ORDER. "Whereas the council on Foreign Relations is distinctly national, representation is allocated equally to Western Europe, Japan and the United States. It is intended to act as the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests BY SEIZING CONTROL OF THE POLITICAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. "ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI AND DAVID ROCKEFELLER SCREENED AND SELECTED EVERY INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN SHAPING AND ADMINISTERING THE PROPOSED NEW WORLD ORDER. Full Text and partial list of CFR members: www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/multi/goldwatr.html CFR Corporation wrote the charter for United Nations Corporation. NAFTA SHAFTA officially merged USA with Mexico and Canada, which is a member of 53-nation British Commwealth ruled by the German Queen of England Elizabeth Sax Coberg Gotha. So USA has now officially lost the Revolutionary War, and is again a colony of the British Empire, aka the New World Order dictatorship. Since the Queen's mugshot is on Candian money, how long before the Queen's mugshot will be on the Amerodollar to replace the US dollar? Quote: Current bank notes in use in Canada $2 - Queen Elizabeth II / Robins $5 - Sir Wilfrid Laurier / Belted Kingfisher $10 - Sir John A. Macdonald / Osprey in flight $20 - Queen Elizabeth II / Common Loon $50 - William Lyon Mackenzie King / Snowy Owl $100 - Sir Robert Borden / Canada Goose $1,000 - Queen Elizabeth II / Landscape with Pine Grosbeak www.monarchyfreecanada.org/currency_facts.htm www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes/general/character/2001-04_20.html www.deceptiondollar.com Quote:"There is a chance for the President of the United States to use this disaster to carry out what his father - a phrase his father used I think only once, and it hasn't been used since - and that is a New World Order." -US senator Gary Hart, Council on Foreign Relations Corp, CSPAN TV, September 12, 2001 God save uSA. God damn the Queen of Canada. There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater... the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public. -Mr Universe FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO V2 Tangerine Dream - Thief Soundtrack: Confrontation http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/8912.php
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:51 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 6:02 AM
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:36 PM
MISSTRESSAHARA
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:43 PM
Wednesday, May 24, 2006 4:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: And no, Canada need not be left out. Piratenews has managed to insert every other country and ethnicity into his conspiracy theories.
Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:11 AM
Quote: Bill permits 193 million more aliens by 2026 By Charles Hurt THE WASHINGTON TIMES May 16, 2006 The Senate immigration reform bill would allow for up to 193 million new legal immigrants -- a number greater than 60 percent of the current U.S. population -- in the next 20 years, according to a study released yesterday. "The magnitude of changes that are entailed in this bill -- and are largely unknown -- rival the impact of the creation of Social Security or the creation of the Medicare program," said Robert Rector, senior policy analyst at the Heritage Foundation who conducted the study. Although the legislation would permit 193 million new immigrants in the next two decades, Mr. Rector estimated that it is more likely that about 103 million new immigrants actually would arrive in the next 20 years. Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican who conducted a separate analysis that reached similar results, said Congress is "blissfully ignorant of the scope and impact" of the bill, which has bipartisan support in the Senate and has been praised by President Bush. The 614-page "compromise" bill -- hastily cobbled together last month by Republican Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Mel Martinez of Florida -- would give illegal aliens who have been in the U.S. two years or longer a right to citizenship. Illegals who have been here less than two years would have to return to their home countries to apply for citizenship. Although that "amnesty" would be granted to about 10 million illegals, the real growth in the immigrant population would come later. As part of the bill, the annual flow of legal immigrants allowed into the U.S. would more than double to more than 2 million annually. In addition, the guest-worker program in the bill would bring in 325,000 new workers annually who could later apply for citizenship. That population would grow exponentially from there because the millions of new citizens would be permitted to bring along their extended families. Also, Mr. Sessions said, the bill includes "escalating caps," which would raise the number of immigrants allowed in as more people seek to enter the U.S. The 614-page "compromise" bill -- hastily cobbled together last month by Republican Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Mel Martinez of Florida -- would give illegal aliens who have been in the U.S. two years or longer a right to citizenship. Illegals who have been here less than two years would have to return to their home countries to apply for citizenship. Although that "amnesty" would be granted to about 10 million illegals, the real growth in the immigrant population would come later. As part of the bill, the annual flow of legal immigrants allowed into the U.S. would more than double to more than 2 million annually. In addition, the guest-worker program in the bill would bring in 325,000 new workers annually who could later apply for citizenship. That population would grow exponentially from there because the millions of new citizens would be permitted to bring along their extended families. Also, Mr. Sessions said, the bill includes "escalating caps," which would raise the number of immigrants allowed in as more people seek to enter the U.S. Mr. Rector estimated that the eventual cost of the bill to the American taxpayer would be about $50 billion per year. Mr. Sessions said he hopes to educate his colleagues about what's in the bill before they vote on it, but there's little evidence that they're interested. Last month, he asked the Senate Judiciary Committee to conduct an in-depth study and hold hearings into the fiscal impact of the bill as well as the impact the bill would have on future immigration. The committee produced no study and held one hearing strictly on the fiscal aspects of the bill. Only three of his fellow panel members showed up, he said. www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060516-125016-4401r.htm Quote: Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 193-Million New Legal Immigrants over the Next Twenty Years by Robert Rector Heritage Foundation May 15, 2006 If enacted, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S.2611) would be the most dramatic change in immigration law in 80 years, allowing an estimated 103 million persons to legally immigrate to the U.S. over the next 20 years—fully one-third of the current population of the United States. The maximum number that could legally enter would be almost 200 million over twenty years—over 180 million more legal immigrants than current law permits. Much attention has been given to the fact that the bill grants amnesty to some 10 million illegal immigrants. Little or no attention has been given to the fact that the bill would quintuple the rate of legal immigration into the United States, raising, over time, the inflow of legal immigrants from around one million per year to over five million per year. The impact of this increase in legal immigration dwarfs the magnitude of the amnesty provisions. In contrast to the 103 million immigrants permitted under CIRA, current law allows 19 million legal immigrants over the next twenty years. Relative to current law, then, CIRA would add an extra 84 million legal immigrants to the nation’s population. CIRA offers amnesty and citizenship to 85 percent of the nation’s current 11.9 million illegal immigrants. (sic) www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm www.michellemalkin.com/archives/004869.htm
Quote: Abbie Bernstein: Do you believe a government can be shamed into or out of what it's doing by the actions of individuals? Joss Whedon: The idea was to say that people can make a difference, they can show the wrongs that are being done. They can speak out against them and make people aware of them. They can even create giant scandals. Sometimes they can topple governments. The point is that the truth is always more important than the power structure, and whether you make a dent or not, the fact that you succeeded in trying is a victory. -Serenity - The Official Visual Companion
Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:35 AM
Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:16 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:17 AM
CHOO1701
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Give him a break...its alot of new crap. I have to admit...when I look at the Queen of England, I feel some real fear. I mean all she needs is a little hair on her lip and voila...Hitler reborn! And she eats babies...little Pirate babies. And clearly something went wrong when they manufactured her son...the ears alone are a dead givaway. When, I ask you, when will Canada throw off the shackles of its slavery to Britsh GermanJew Imperialism and become a free society and stop trying to corrupt poor Mexico and the United States? PN will be glad to know we turned an illegal over to INS today for a DUI. But then again he hates DUI laws, so he'll be really conflicted now. H
Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Choo1701: Careful what your saying about some people's Monarch's. (and the Queen doesn't run the country.
Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:02 AM
Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:40 AM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Quote:You know I think PN is a crank but there is some truth to the rumor... Ordinary Canadians don't want a unified North American continent but corporations sure do. There really IS an evil worldwide conspiracy! It is the very wealthy who pit us against each other in the bottom of the barrel and who leverage one nation against another until everyone is ground up. Has nothing to do with a Knights Templar-Jewish-Communist-British conspiracy tho. It's very equal opportunity.
Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:05 AM
AMITON
Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:02 AM
Quote:The problem with Pirate News is that it's way to easy to just scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll ...
Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:29 AM
WISHUPONAWASH
Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:16 PM
SIGMANUNKI
Quote:Originally posted by Misstressahara: Would you PLEASE not drag Canada into your crazy world PN, we're just starting to get our legs back on solid ground after the Liberal Boondoggle problem.
Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Actually, I think skool was his attempt at humor. And no, Canada need not be left out. Piratenews has managed to insert every other country and ethnicity into his conspiracy theories. Equal slander for equal innocence, I always say. Well, I haven't always said it, actually. But I'll say it now.
Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:24 PM
CITIZEN
Quote:Originally posted by rue: But PN has such a crazy interpretation, no one will even consider it. He sabotages the topic.
Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:42 PM
Friday, May 26, 2006 11:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SigmaNunki: The US has Bush, we got closet Bush. We're both fucked.
Friday, May 26, 2006 11:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: What's wrong SigmaNunki? You miss the Liberals hands in your pockets? I guess Harper is doing okay if all you have to gripe about is his relationship with the media. I'm not going to mention his secret meetings with Bush for fear of drawing PN's attention.
Friday, May 26, 2006 12:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SigmaNunki: How about the Afgan thing? He's going to have a vote but it's non-binding and he's already stated that no matter what the outcome is, he's going to do what he wants anyway. Or how about that he may even bring it to a referendum that'll as well be non-binding and again he'll do whatever he wants. So, big waste of money plus does whatever he wants.
Quote: How about that he has basically removed Canada from Kyoto?
Quote: There is loads of things that I can say about the current administration. I just didn't say it in the above post. To assume that that is the only thing that I got against the current administration is such a large fallacy it isn't funny.
Quote: Also, if you respond to this post, you're going to have to do better than bring a strawman to the table. Otherwise I won't even respond next time.
Friday, May 26, 2006 12:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SigmaNunki: And by the way, every government has there hands it everyones pockets. The only difference is if they get caught.
Friday, May 26, 2006 2:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by citizen: The only difference is that "Tax and Spend" liberals tax the rich and poor to help those that need it. "Spend and Cut" conservatives tax the poor so they can afford a cut for the rich, that need the money more, obviously, to afford an engorged millitary. At least thats how it works over here.
Friday, May 26, 2006 2:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: There was a vote, and Harper "won" because the Liberals could not vote against extending their original mission. Let's not forget that the Conservatives hold a minority Government so Harper cannot do whatever he wants. An election can be triggered at any time by a vote of non confidence on any issue. Harper realizes the opportunity of a leaderless official opposition and has the acumen to exploit it.
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: I would like to see an actual workable solution then to keep flogging the dead horse that is Kyoto. Tell me how the environment will improve by sending cash to non-industrial countries as carbon credits? I think the Conservatives are on the right track by mandating 10% ethanol in all gasoline by 2010.
Friday, May 26, 2006 2:38 PM
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Friday, May 26, 2006 7:28 PM
SASSALICIOUS
Friday, May 26, 2006 7:56 PM
LITTLEALBATROSS
Quote:Actually, extending the Afgan this is _not_ the original mission. Part of what is going on is adding a distinct offensive military component. Something which was _not_ discussed in the house, but Harper is just running with.
Quote:The Conservatives may have a minority government right now, BUT, they also have the support of the Bloc. He's promising everything they want for there support and is getting it. But, I imagine that he will pull the rug from underneath them when the time is right. Anyone remember Mulroney? He did the exact same thing.
Friday, May 26, 2006 9:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Ah yes, Alberta. I think of it as 'The Texas of Canada'.
Friday, May 26, 2006 10:27 PM
Quote: Originally posted by SigmaNunki: The Conservatives may have a minority government right now, BUT, they also have the support of the Bloc. He's promising everything they want for there support and is getting it. But, I imagine that he will pull the rug from underneath them when the time is right. Anyone remember Mulroney? He did the exact same thing.
Quote: Tell me how reducing greenhouse emittions won't help the environment. Perhaps you should look into Germany and how it's imporved there environment. Forests are getting heathier, etc. And this is all after they reduced there emissions. Your also going to have to let me in on, how the local population won't benefit from cleaner air, cleaner ground water, etc. Do you honestly think that we're meant to be this sick?
Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: Quote:Originally posted by rue: Ah yes, Alberta. I think of it as 'The Texas of Canada'. Why yes, I am from Alberta. And we consider Texas the Alberta of the States. Now what other places can we make broad generalizations about? De-lurking to stir stuff up.
Saturday, May 27, 2006 1:12 PM
DARWINSHANDMAIDEN
Saturday, May 27, 2006 6:52 PM
HARDWARE
Sunday, May 28, 2006 10:56 AM
HAYWARD79
Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by darwinshandmaiden: Advantages to having a North American Union from a Canadian perspective: 1) Canadian money would be the legal tender because it's so pretty 2) Starbucks would have competition in the form of Tim Horton's 3)Canadian rock group "Rush" would sing the national anthem (whatever that would be) at all baseball, hockey and other national sport games. Beauty, eh? 4) Beavers would replace the eagle as the national symbol - we would train them to damn rivers for electricity. 5) Toques would become high fashion I picks them up, I drops them off.
Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:59 AM
Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:15 PM
Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:57 PM
Quote: To permit mobilization of your country's economy, you gladly surrender many freedoms. You know regimentation was forced by your country's enemies.
Quote:In an unsuccessful plan to educate people to uniform views, "planners" establish a giant propaganda machine -which the coming dictator will find handy
Quote:The gullible do find agreement ....
Quote:A negative aim welds party unity.
Quote:No one opposes the plan ... It would be suicide; new secret police are ruthless
Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:22 PM
FLETCH2
Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:33 PM
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