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I have been touched by His noodly appendage!

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(Why is 666 the Number of the Beast, anyway?)

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Having watched "pi" (great film), the Hebrew alphabet is associated with numbers. (Kabbalah) Could 666 spell something?

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in the immortal words of the Beetles - "it's just another day"

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Originally posted by citizen:
As we all know next Tuesday is judgement day, when Satan will rise to take his place at the forefront of the global British-Commie-Nazi-Alien-Jew who are responcible for all wars in their efforts to take over the world which they already control.

He will marry the German British Queen who controls the world with her German British mind Kontrol.

The NAFTA-CAFTA-SHAFTA-IWOULDLIKEAMOCHA will continue to enslave drink drivers whose drinking before and during driving is well known to increase your reactions and make you a safer driver.

For I read the book of PirateNews.

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You caught me in some major errors there. The world's gonna fall apart now, I'm tellin 'ya.

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The world can't end yet. The Cubs haven't won the world series.

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and like the mighty Phoenix rising from Arizona

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The world can't end yet. The Cubs haven't won the world series.

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they're gonna get a couple more shots after the rapture....if they can't beat nobody, well it's the showers for good.....

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time for Americans to realize that nows the time to act and expose this conspiracy, or many will be swept away in THE LIE

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they believe 19 hijackers alone forever changed the direction of history. terrorists can achieve conspiracies...but not multi-trillion dollar elitist entities?

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yet, they believe 19 hijackers alone forever changed the direction of history. terrorists can achieve conspiracies...but not multi-trillion dollar elitist entities? i mean...the hypocracy!

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they believe 19 hijackers alone forever changed the direction of history. terrorists can achieve conspiracies...but not multi-trillion dollar elitist entities?

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SonofMan, you understand much, and post better. Thank you.

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to christians, this system is the beast, and to suffer the same fate that the EU most definately has, and will..would be a travesty.

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Very emotive saying 19 hijackers can change the direction of history with their conspiracy, but of course they didn't, did they.

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1 person can keep a secret, 2 people will find it a little more difficult, 20 even harder, 200 near impossible, 2000, 20,000...

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They changed a lot. Families all over the world will be in pain for years.

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They gave Bush carte blanche to speed up his agenda. They increased hatred for Muslims as far as the fearful and small-minded go.

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Citizen, you always pull that logic crap in discussions. So irritating....

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Anyway, what I took from the above was: if a group with limited resources could effect a change, a group with near-unlimited resources could too.
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Sure there's corporate conspiracies, but you can read about them in the Financial Times, we don't need someone with some sort of divine knowledge to point them out .

A nation or a corporation can do everything that a terrorist group can do and more, but they CAN'T do it in secret.

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to put it simply, the EU makes up the original Roman empire,

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and likewise the once sovereign countries have been consilidated under a single entity, the EU, and is run by a UN type government.

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since the secret societies originated there, it stands to reason that they would be further along than we are

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if i am to use the UK as an example: they have 3-4 million cctv cameras and mics set up strategically all over the island

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The government has put the brakes on such tactics by simply announcing, with no debate or legislation, that passports can now only be renewed for 9 months in advance.

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[-first off, the synoptics, the 3 gospils, WERE written by Matthew, Mark and Luke within a lifetime of Jesus', despite the popular claim of distant, numerous authorship. the book of John was written by a John, only we dont know if it was the apostle or the elder, yet theres no question of its authenticity. Paul, who wrote Romans..has letters dating to within a few yrs of Jesus ressurection. there are numerous 1st and 2nd century writers who confirmed this, including Papias and Irenaeus.

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They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon.
-Revelation 9:11, Christian Bible (KJV)

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Revelation 13, Christian Bible (KJV)

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

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George W. Bush, Barbara Bush, and Aleister Crowley

by Joseph Cannon
Cannonfire Blog
April 2006

Few people understand that one of the most notorious individuals in British history may have contributed to the lineage of our current president.

http://www.poeforward.com/poetrycorner/crowley/ac02.JPG
Grandfather of Georgie Bush Jr
www.poeforward.com/poetrycorner/crowley/links.htm

Aleister Crowley, a.k.a., "The Great Beast 666" -- the infamous practitioner of "sex magick" whose motto was "Do What Thou Wilt" -- came to know a great many remarkable people, including the maternal grandmother of George W. Bush. "Know," in this case, may be taken in the Biblical sense. Evidence points to the disturbing possibility that he was the true father of Barbara Bush, the former First Lady and mother to George W. Bush.

The story may seem difficult to believe at first, until one learns more about the social inter-relations that tied together these unlikely parties. Specifically, we must focus on a fascinating woman named Pauline Pierce, born Pauline Robinson -- whose third child was named Barbara.


Pauline Robinson Pierce
www.randomhouse.com/doubleday/thefamily/photo.php?i=1

Most sources divulge little about this woman. We learn more about her husband Marvin Pierce, the president of the McCall Corporation, which published McCall's magazine and Redbook. He married Pauline, a beautiful young socialite, in 1919. Their first child, Martha, was born the next year; the second, James, was born in 1921. At this time, Aleister Crowley inhabited what must have seemed a very different world, as he embarked upon the great communal experiment of the Abbey of Thelema in Italy.

Pauline, however, had a hidden side -- what we might call (without intending any judgment or insult) a wild side. We get a whiff of it from this Wikipedia entry:

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W magazine once described her as "beautiful, fabulous, critical, and meddling" and "a former beauty from Ohio with extravagant tastes"...

Rumors that Pauline had an affair with Dwight D. Eisenhower have never been verified... Still, gossip tabloids from the '40s often associated her with prominent men in politics and film.

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I have not yet been able to acquire independent confirmation of the Eisenhower liaison, although I personally see no reason to doubt that it existed. However, we may well have reason to believe that she began her "experimental" period before the 1940s.


www.xprojectmagazine.com/archives/books/aleistercrowley.html

A sixth-level initiate within the OTO (the Ordo Templi Orientis, the mystical society that Crowely came to head in the 1920s) first set me down this research path by revealing that Pauline Robinson had befriended an woman named Nellie O'Hara, an American adventuress who, at some point during her European travels, met the famed writer Frank Harris. Despite his advancing years, Harris still maintained a reputation for sexual excess that rivaled Crowley's. During this period (1919-1927), Nellie and Frank Harris lived as man and wife, although they could not actually wed because Harris' second wife was still alive and would not grant a divorce.

Harris and Crowley were good friends. Not only that: At this time, and not for the last time, Crowley was very much the proverbial "friend in need."

During the Abbey period, a Crowley follower had accidentally died during a magickal ceremony. The incident created a firestorm of unwanted publicity (the sensationalist British press labeled Crowley "The Wickedest Man in the World"), which prompted Mussolini's government to expel Crowley and his followers from Italian soil. By 1924, he lived in poverty in France, where Frank Harris kindly took him under his roof. This arrangement inevitably brought Crowley into contact with Nellie.

Crowley's diaries, to which I have been given access, clearly indicate that he depended on Harris for financial assistance:

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January 3rd 1924 - "No luck about cash yet: but F.H. promises 500 fr to-morrow - so that I can bolt to Paris. One step onward to the Establishment of the Law of Thelema.

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The money soon ran out, and AC (as his associates called him) soon had to ask his friend for further assistance. At this time, Harris was writing his multi-volume "erotic autobiography," My Life and Loves; he also purchased a newspaper, The Evening Telegram. But he lacked the resources and management skills to make the enterprise a success, and soon found himself in a financial position no better than Crowley's.

Despite his parlous economic circumstances, Crowley focused his attention on sex magick. Not many years previously, he and a follower named Jeanne Foster (a.k.a. Soror Hilarion) had conducted a sex-magickal rite designed to give birth to a child destined to carry on Crowley's work. I have not been able to determine whether he conducted similar experiments with Nellie, although given the polyamorous proclivities of all the parties involved, one should not discount the possibility.

Nellie's friend Pauline no doubt scandalized her social circle by traveling to France on her own and leaving two very young children in the care of nursemaids. However, her correspondence with her friend -- whose life in France with a famous literary figure must have seemed quite glamorous -- can only have inspired a sense of wanderlust. Her husband, increasingly bound to his duties with the McCall Corporation, did not share this spirit of adventure.

Thus it was that four individuals came together: Frank Harris, Nellie O'Hara, Pauline Pierce, and Aleister Crowley. Anyone who has studied Crowley's life will understand that what happened next was, in a sense, inevitable.

Crowley's diaries for this period record the initials "PVN," a cryptic reference to his favorite sexual position, which some of his partners found distasteful. (The letters derive from the Latin for "By way of the Infernal Entrance.") This is a common annotation in the records of Crowley's magical practices. We also find the strange initials "ECL." After researching the matter for some time, I have come to the conclusion that this is a reference to the practice known as "Eroto-Comotose Lucidity."

Before proceeding, I should emphasize that the year 1924 has a special significance in the Crowley chrnology. At this time, he is said to have undergone the "supreme ordeal" connected with his attainment of the Grade of Ipsissimus, the highest magickal achievement within his order. The exact nature of this ordeal remains mysterious. I believe that an important clue can be found in his description of the rite of Eroto-Comotose Lucidity:

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The Candidate is made ready for the Ordeal by general athletic training, and by feasting. On the appointed day he is attended by one or more chosen and experienced attendants whose duty is (a) to exhaust him sexually by every known means (b) to rouse him sexually by every known means. Every device and artifice of the courtesan is to be employed, and every stimulant known to the physician. Nor should the attendants reck of danger, but hunt down ruthlessly their appointed prey.

Finally the Candidate will into a sleep of utter exhaustion, resembling coma, and it is now that delicacy and skill must be exquisite. Let him be roused from this sleep by stimulation of a definitely and exclusively sexual type. Yet if convenient, music wisely regulated will assist.

The attendants will watch with assiduity for signs of waking; and the moment these occur, all stimulation must cease instantly, and the Candidate be allowed to fall again into sleep; but no sooner has this happened than the former practice is resumed. This alteration is to continue indefinitely until the Candidate is in a state which is neither sleep nor waking, and in which his Spirit, set free by perfect exhaustion of the body, and yet prevented from entering the City of Sleep, communes with the Most High and the Most Holy Lord God of its being, maker of heaven and earth.

The Ordeal terminates by failure---the occurence of sleep invincible--- or by success, in which ultimate waking is followed by a final performance of the sexual act. The Initiate may then be allowed to sleep, or the practice may be renewed and persisted in until death ends all. The most favourable death is that occurring during the orgasm, and is called Mors Justi.

As it is written: Let me die the death of the Righteous, and let my last end be like his!

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If he did undergo this "ordeal" in 1924, then we must presume that his key associates of that time -- including Nellie and Pauline -- functioned as his assistants.

Pauline returned to America in early October of 1924. On June 8, 1925, she gave birth to a girl named Barbara. Barbara Pierce married George H.W. Bush, who eventually became the 41st President of the United States.

But who was Barbara's father? The chronology indicates that it could have been Crowley, but it could just as easily have been Marvin Pierce. The truth regarding Crowlean sexual rituals is disclosed only to the highest initiates of the OTO, in a document misleadingly titled "Emblems and Modes of Use."

Is Aleister Crowley the father of Barbara Bush? Even she may not know for certain; indeed, I have no way of knowing whether she has ever been told that this possibility exists. However, more than one person has noted the resemblance -- and this resemblance is not just physical. Many will recall the former First Lady's haughty and thoughtless remarks in the aftermath of the Katrina disaster. Those "in the know" were reminded of Aleister Crowley's similar reaction to the loss of life which occurred during the ascent of Kangchanjunga, an expedition he commanded: "This is precisely the sort of thing with which I have no sympathy whatsoever."

I leave the matter for the reader to decide.

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/04/george-w-bush-barbara-bush-and.
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"Because of all the evil of the children of Israel and of the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke me to anger, they, their kings, their princes, their priests, and their prophets, and the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction. But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it. And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin."
-Jeremiah 32:32-35, Christian Bible KJV

More photos and news from Bohemian Grove:
http://www.nwowatcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=152

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alright..i apologize, i was mis-informed on the ID card matter. the last i checked, the EU biometric ID card had passed a few phases and seemed like a sure thing, but again i dont live there, so ill admit im ignorant and should have double checked first.

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well it took a hundred years, but agent provocateurs, working at the behest of the central banks, staged this hyst against us, and pulled of the scam of all scams to bring this monstrousity into existence. now, in reality, todays currency is worthless paper, with no actual value (in America we've been off the Gold standard for almost 30 years now).

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well for a government to buy money, AT INTEREST, from a PRIVATE banking institution is quite possibly the closest thing to serfdom as is possible today. the Fed chairman has the ability to manipulate the stock market merely by making a comment! and currently our citizens are in debt to them 6 TRILLION dollars.

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whos going to make the case that these Banks combined dont have the wealth, assetts, or connections, to influence government and public policy? especially when agencies like the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Tri-Lateral group, are direct front organizations, established by the same royal families and elite affiliations behind the banking institutions.

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the Roman empire, or as i was referring to primarily, the "revived Roman empire" is a bible prophecy regarding the end of the age, and the nations or regions which will comprise the beast and the reign of the anti-christ. Rome once occupied much of the same regions that now are under the umbrella of the EU. the bible states that Rome, the empire in existence under the death of Christ, would be revived for his return.

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secret societies, like the thule geselleshaft, the nights templar, the scottish Rite, just name your group...they all existed IN EUROPE!!..and from there spread out to the Americas. i dont see what is so hard to grasp about this concept?!..except that you seem to be skeptical beyond the point of objectivity,

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