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So Long and Thanks for All the Fish

POSTED BY: HERO
UPDATED: Saturday, September 1, 2007 16:44
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Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:10 AM

HERO


Quote:


Scientists ask: Where have all the dolphins gone?
Aug 22 09:56 AM US/Eastern

Sightings by marine scientists of dolphins in the north Atlantic's Bay of Biscay have dropped off by 80 percent compared to the same period in 2006, a wildlife conservation group said Wednesday.


I'm no enviromentalist wacko. In fact I celebrate Earth Day by going into the woods and chopping down a tree and then covering it in a generous helping of used motor oil and old D batteries.

But I'm pro dolphin. After all they're smarter then dogs, tons of fun, and we can train them to be special forces in the Navy.

Yes, I love dolphin flavored tuna as much as the next fella, but it aint right.

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Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:43 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


same article:

The second -- and probably more important -- reason that dolphins have disappeared is that there is simply very little left for them to eat.

"Anchovy fishing in the Bay of Biscay has progressively failed, and this year there is a complete ban by Spain, France and the United Kingdom on the fishing of anchovies
," a principal food source for dolphins, Clive said.

He speculated that the roving sea mammals -- which swim in pods numbering in the dozens for bottlenose dolphins, and sometimes in the thousands for the common dolphin -- had moved west toward the mid-Atlantic looking for food.

A sharp decrease in the presence of many seabirds that also feed on fish -- such as auks, shearwaters and gannets -- lends support to this explanation.



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Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:00 AM

CHRISISALL


Great title, Hero! lol

Climate change and other factors are affecting life all over our planet.
This ain't your father's Earth no more.

Short-term: invest in air-conditioning technology...long-term: invest in parka and snow-mobile companies Chrisisall

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Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:35 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Mabye they're melting.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, August 26, 2007 11:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It wasn't until a couple years ago that I realized that the good guy on "12 Monkeys" was not Bruce Willis...

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Friday, August 31, 2007 5:12 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6973522.stm


US court allows navy to use sonar
Orca (Image: AP)
The US Navy says it has not seen any whale injuries caused by sonar
The US navy has won the latest round in a court battle over whether it can use sonar equipment which environmentalists say can kill whales and other mammals.

An appeals court overturned a decision banning the use of sonar equipment in tests to be held off California.

National security needs must be weighed against protecting the safety of marine mammals, the judges ruled.

Wildlife experts say noise pollution from sonar disorients whales, causing them to become stranded on beaches.

The navy argued that it had monitored waters off southern California for 40 years and had not seen any whale injuries from the use of sonar equipment.

It says the device is necessary to track submarines.

'At war'

The ruling the latest stage of a long-running battle between environmentalists and the US Navy over marine safety.

In a split decision, the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals reversed a two-year ban on the equipment ordered in earlier August, in a case brought by a coalition of animal welfare groups.


The public does indeed have a very considerable interest in preserving our natural environment ... but it also has an interest in national defence
Judge Andrew Kleinfeld

It criticised the navy for not taking action to minimise harm done to whales during exercises in California, but said the district court that had imposed the ban had not proven that the move would prevent "irreparable harm to the environment".

"The public does indeed have a very considerable interest in preserving our natural environment and especially relatively scarce whales," Judge Andrew Kleinfeld wrote in the ruling.

"But it also has an interest in national defence. We are currently engaged in war, in two countries."

In 2006, a UK government-commissioned report called for more research into the effects of noise pollution on marine animals.

It concluded that there were many noise sources in the seas, including seismic surveys for oil and gas, shipping, offshore wind farms, military sonar and scientific research.

The study identified 13 cases of strandings by whales and dolphins that appeared to be linked to noise, adding that most of the cases did involve naval vessels.

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Friday, August 31, 2007 5:12 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6973522.stm


US court allows navy to use sonar
Orca (Image: AP)
The US Navy says it has not seen any whale injuries caused by sonar
The US navy has won the latest round in a court battle over whether it can use sonar equipment which environmentalists say can kill whales and other mammals.

An appeals court overturned a decision banning the use of sonar equipment in tests to be held off California.

National security needs must be weighed against protecting the safety of marine mammals, the judges ruled.

Wildlife experts say noise pollution from sonar disorients whales, causing them to become stranded on beaches.

The navy argued that it had monitored waters off southern California for 40 years and had not seen any whale injuries from the use of sonar equipment.

It says the device is necessary to track submarines.

'At war'

The ruling the latest stage of a long-running battle between environmentalists and the US Navy over marine safety.

In a split decision, the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals reversed a two-year ban on the equipment ordered in earlier August, in a case brought by a coalition of animal welfare groups.


The public does indeed have a very considerable interest in preserving our natural environment ... but it also has an interest in national defence
Judge Andrew Kleinfeld

It criticised the navy for not taking action to minimise harm done to whales during exercises in California, but said the district court that had imposed the ban had not proven that the move would prevent "irreparable harm to the environment".

"The public does indeed have a very considerable interest in preserving our natural environment and especially relatively scarce whales," Judge Andrew Kleinfeld wrote in the ruling.

"But it also has an interest in national defence. We are currently engaged in war, in two countries."

In 2006, a UK government-commissioned report called for more research into the effects of noise pollution on marine animals.

It concluded that there were many noise sources in the seas, including seismic surveys for oil and gas, shipping, offshore wind farms, military sonar and scientific research.

The study identified 13 cases of strandings by whales and dolphins that appeared to be linked to noise, adding that most of the cases did involve naval vessels.


" We are at war ".... with two countrys with no naval capability that would be twarted by this, but hey dont let the paranoia run rampant

Saddam must have hid his WMD on his super stealth subs




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Friday, August 31, 2007 5:20 PM

LEADB


"Saddam must have hid his WMD on his super stealth subs"
Don't be ridiculous. Clearly the whales have the WMD, that's why they beach themselves; they just aren't very good at activating them.

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Friday, August 31, 2007 5:28 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


One day they'll get it all together - targeting, beaching, activating.

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 5:24 AM

CHRISISALL


Make not fun of the Holy WMD...

Ourladyisall

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 5:56 AM

RIVERFLAN


Aw I thought you guys were talking about "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"! Oh well, I'll add something about that, so the title for this thread is justified. Never forget your towel! I havn't read the book so I can't add much, but yeah.



"The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vaccuuming systems." -River

"It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think -River

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 7:04 AM

MALBADINLATIN


Only thing about Hitchiker's Guide is that thier President is much smarter than ours

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 7:20 AM

LEADB


Quote:

Originally posted by RiverFlan:
Aw I thought you guys were talking about "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"! Oh well, I'll add something about that, so the title for this thread is justified. Never forget your towel! I havn't read the book so I can't add much, but yeah.

Wait, I'm confused; I thought we -were- talking about the book/movie. After all, isn't blasting the planet out of space the ultimate WMD?

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 7:49 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Some day the next intelligent species will look back on this geological era and ask themselves... what could have happened? Plutonium, lead, mercury, carbon soot in a highly concentrated layer... tremendous erosion... massive die-offs... big hive-like stuctures for ape-like creatures to live in and HUGE midden-heaps near their dwelling. For millenia nothing... and then this HUGE population explosion that coveres the globe.

Must have been very clever creatures, but not very intelligent to overpopulate like that and kill so much including themselves.

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 9:11 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Some day the next intelligent species will look back on this geological era and ask themselves... what could have happened? Plutonium, lead, mercury, carbon soot in a highly concentrated layer... tremendous erosion... massive die-offs... big hive-like stuctures for ape-like creatures to live in and HUGE midden-heaps near their dwelling. For millenia nothing... and then this HUGE population explosion that coveres the globe.

Must have been very clever creatures, but not very intelligent to overpopulate like that and kill so much including themselves.




Carl Sagan just called. He wants his idiom back.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 4:34 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

...Carl Sagan just called. He wants his idiom back.



Good one. But it must've been some sort of trick, he died years ago(and it had nothing to do with evading taxes).

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 4:44 PM

TDBROWN


We seem to be leaning more and more away from "Earth That Is", and heading more toward "Earth That Was"....

"Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one." -Mal

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