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I likes me some steroids

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Friday, March 27, 2009 10:18 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Note that doctors routinely prescribe this for FEMALES...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corticosteroid
www.advair.com

Graphic Evidence Against Steroid Abuse
http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/08/graphic-evidenc.html

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Friday, March 27, 2009 10:34 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

Some of these photographs appear to have been altered.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, March 27, 2009 10:43 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Some of these photographs appear to have been altered.

Yeah, I took Photoshop in school last semester; fakes are easy for me to spot now.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, March 27, 2009 10:44 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Some of these photographs appear to have been altered.

Perhaps. But some folks are such good addicts, combined with new drugs and exercise technologies, that they might well be TRUE.

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Friday, March 27, 2009 10:48 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

Yeah, I took Photoshop in school last semester; fakes are easy for me to spot now.

I took photoshop class too. But these can't be faked that way.

You need a morphing animation program, or perhaps "Photoshop" After Effects video program.

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Friday, March 27, 2009 10:53 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by piratenews:

You need a morphing animation program, or perhaps "Photoshop" After Effects video program.

Nah, ya just gotta be good with regular Photoshop. I coulda done these. A little time consuming, but not that hard.
EDIT to add: Actually these look like they used slightly more advanced program(s) than the basic one, I can't see anyone sitting around for hours on each photo.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, March 27, 2009 10:54 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

Your exposes may be undermined by the falsification of images that are not explicitly labeled as such.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, March 27, 2009 11:24 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by piratenews:

You need a morphing animation program, or perhaps "Photoshop" After Effects video program.
Nah, ya just gotta be good with regular Photoshop. I coulda done these. A little time consuming, but not that hard.
EDIT to add: Actually these look like they used slightly more advanced program(s) than the basic one, I can't see anyone sitting around for hours on each photo.

The laughing Chrisisall

Then you don't know anyone who's really good at Photoshop. I've seen some rather good PhotoChop jobs done by amateurs.

Check out this quick one - it's a 2000 Honda CRX, which of course doesn't exist. There's bits and pieces of Honda Insight and Acura TL in there, but a lot of it is just painted in Photoshop...

By the way, here's the REAL image:

Mike

I'm something of a ne'er-do-well
even though that's something I could never do well...

The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

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Friday, March 27, 2009 12:11 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Nah, ya just gotta be good with regular Photoshop. I coulda done these. A little time consuming, but not that hard.

Looks like some wheels and springs to me.

A little mask cutting and layers, no morphing, which is the hard part.

Honda Insight no photoshop

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Friday, March 27, 2009 12:19 PM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Nah, ya just gotta be good with regular Photoshop. I coulda done these. A little time consuming, but not that hard.
EDIT to add: Actually these look like they used slightly more advanced program(s) than the basic one, I can't see anyone sitting around for hours on each photo.

Obviously you've not been using the latest versions.

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Friday, March 27, 2009 12:34 PM

KWICKO

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Looks like some wheels and springs to me.

Pretty much - bigger wheels, wider tires, lower the car a bit, get rid of the fugly rear fender skirts. But notice also the subtle reshaping of the headlight housing and the addition of the Acura's driving lights, as well as the deeper chin spoiler. Not a bad chop-job, all in all. Too bad Honda never saw fit to build it for real... That 'chop-job was done by someone over at Temple of VTEC, I believe.

Just shows what even a novice can achieve with a little knowledge and the full version of the program. By the way, this was done some years back, so it's definitely not the latest version of the program - but it was probably the FULL version, not that crappy Photoshop CE version that they tease you with!

I also like how the artist added a bit of negative camber to the front wheels - note how the top is leaned in just a bit, very much like you get when you "slam" the car that low with just springs.

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Friday, March 27, 2009 12:39 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Im surprised more folks dont trick the Insight.

Maybe put a monster DC motor in it, like those drag cars.

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Friday, March 27, 2009 12:52 PM

KWICKO

I know some have tried, but the car just doesn't lend itself to much modification. The rear suspension's track is 4" narrower than the front, so it's really not stable at all; Car&Driver described its handling as "understeer and oversteer - often at the same time!"

Also, Honda says they really took pains to keep the car very light, to the point that the extra power and torque of even a B18 (Acura Integra) or a K-series (RSX Type S, later Civic Si) would likely be more than the unibody could cope with. Kind of a pity, really.

But some of us eagerly await the upcoming CR-Z, *especially* if the rumored "Type R" or "Si" model makes it into production!

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Friday, March 27, 2009 1:16 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

No Photoshop, Attack of the Steroids

Photoshop, Attack of the Show

Goro, Mortal Combat

Goro, No Photoshop

Goro, Bad Photo Chop

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Friday, March 27, 2009 1:49 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Yes, the Honda's are doing it right, using "double wishbone" suspension, front and rear.

Except on the Insight. Even their minivan had it.

But the "new" retro Ford Mustang, "new" Dodge Challenger, and "new" Camaro DON'T have double
wishbone suspension, not even on the front. They use mapherson struts, which are 1950s racing
technology. Even the old versions had double wishbone on the front. Double wishbone was
invented in the 1960s for Formula 1 racing. Chev and Dodge chose to compete with Ford's step
backwards, while ignoring Honda.

Old man's Camaro priced itself out of the market

The US cars are too luxurious, and too big, making them way too expensive.

Only Vette has 4-wheel double wishbones, with rear wheel drive, but too pricy.

Honda hasn't figured out RWD yet, since they like CHEAP cars for high profit.

So they'll never compete in sales with Honda, especially as US automakers and dealers go BK in
a Depression. FAIL.

I used to sell Hondas and owned a few. Great to drive on curvy roads. That dealer did so well the
GM now owns 30 motorcycles and owns the dealership.

Honda is now getting too expensive, forcing it to end all racing in 2009, both cars and bikes.

GM, Ford and Dodge havent raced since the 1970s, which is why their engineers are braindead.

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Friday, March 27, 2009 2:21 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:

Obviously you've not been using the latest versions.

Maybe I'm just not as fast as I could be...

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, March 27, 2009 3:28 PM

KWICKO

Sorry for the threadjack, PN...

If it makes you feel any better (and it won't), Honda isn't doing the double-wishbone suspensions any more either - at least not on anything but their priciest cars, like the S2000 (which is soon to be no more). The last of their dual-wishbone setups in Civics ended sometime after '92 (I *think* it died with the '02 Civic lineup), when they switched to a strut front and beam rear.

Thing is, though, 99.99% of people - even "good" drivers - couldn't tell you whether the car they were driving at the moment had a dual-wishbone setup or a strut setup. Porsche, Mercedes-Benz, BMW all use MacPherson strut setups now - and not many people would call a Porsche 911 Turbo a slug on a race course...

My old CRX that I used to race was a first-generation model (an '87 Si), meaning it used torsion bars and MacPherson struts on the front and a solid beam axle on the rear. No fancy double-wishbones at either end. And it routinely ran circles around EVERY "fancier" 2nd-generation CRX that came out to play - despite being as much as 80hp down on power to those cars. My secret weapon? A suspension system that was dead-simple to set up and dial in on a smooth track. I had it set up where as little as a half-pound difference in air pressure in the front or rear tires would take the car from mild understeer to neutral or even to mild oversteer.

The downside? That suspension was excrutiatingly stiff - so much so that the car was all but undrivable on city streets. It handled like it was on rails, though. And with soft-compound Goodyear Eagle racing rubber on 13x7" Panasport Lite wheels (each wheel and tire weighed in at 15 pounds!), it would take a right-angle 90º street corner at 55mph with no problem. Just crazy the way it would stick. :)

So while I like my later-model CRXs just fine on the street, I'll take the earlier, smaller, lighter model to go racing with, if I had my choice.

Honda's done okay with figuring out a few rear-drive cars. The S2000 and the NSX seemed to do okay. Lately, they've been putting all their efforts into their AWD systems, which send torque fore and aft as needed, and also from one side to the other at the rear; if the outside rear is loaded up in a turn, it gets more torque, and thus more traction. It's supposed to be a very slick system, but I find it more expensive and complicated than I like. I like my cars simple, obviously. :) If there's one thing I've learned, it's this: On a car, EVERYTHING breaks sooner or later. Especially the computerized bits.

Mike

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Friday, March 27, 2009 4:48 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

And here's some more beefcake ...

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Oooh la la !

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Friday, March 27, 2009 5:44 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Wow. So the Civics are now hi-bhp, hi-watt, with struts. Front wheel drive with 1950s suspension.

That's CRAP. No wonder they quit racing.

Their bikes are superbadass tho. 190 mph for $10,000. Full race tech.

Guess I'd rather sell bikes then. But the local dealer went out of business 3 months ago.

Plus, Uncle Scam even banned ALL sales of bikes AND HELMETS that might be ridden by 12 year olds or younger.

Some kind of trade extortion war with toy factories in Commie China.

It's killing the dealers during this Depression. $70,000 fine and jail for EACH $500 bike sold...

So for hot cheap cars I'm looking at our local oval track.

We have 3 racecar factories here in town, with plenty of race mods for gutted street cars too.
www.goddardwarrior.net/seminarphotos.html

The Pro4 class is tube frame with fiberglass/ally body, very light, 350 bhp 4 bangers. Wishbone front.

Needs slight mod to rear links, since it has to turn right.

Solid rear axle can be cut and welded to give negative camber.

Put lights and wipers on it, and its street legal. On steroids. For less than a Honda Civic.

Sort of Mad Max, but Made in USA.

Old Pro4 with Tbird plastic

FOR SALE: V8 tube chassis with newer plastic $9,000 OBO

FOR SALE: V8 tube chassis with newer plastic $10,000 OBO. Tire marks included free.

Race cars for sale as low as $500
http://newportspeedway.com/forsale/index.html

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Friday, March 27, 2009 6:21 PM

KWICKO

Yup, the old man, Soichiro Honda, died a few years back, and the beancounters took over the company, and pretty quickly stopped caring about improving much - except for improving profits, of course. Where the engineers and racers used to have the president's ear, now it's all about accounting.

After a couple truly miserable seasons, Honda have even pulled out of Formula One racing. The team has been bought out by Ross Brawn, the guru who brought Michael Schumacher to Ferrari and built the team around him - and won a string of world championships in the process. I *hope* Brawn can do the same with the former Honda F1 team, and bring it back to its proper glory - if nothing else, at least as an engine builder.

\m/

I'm something of a ne'er-do-well
even though that's something I could never do well...

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Saturday, March 28, 2009 2:31 AM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
And here's some more beefcake ...

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Oooh la la !

ZOIKS!

Those are some freaky-lookin' cattle.

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Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:17 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Mikey, if I had to pick, I'd go with the 1991 Honda CRX EDM 1.6i-VT - the one with that nasty lil 150-hp four banger in it, cherry bomb pipe, and bring the lil bitch to YOU for the ECU mods and transmission refit.

A local auto transporter had one a bit like that, and she was peppy off the line with good top end, but kinda mushy in the middle and didn't go well with my hillybilly driving style.
(which is, admittedly, more suited to overpowered RWD)
I loved it's exhaust note tho, lil thing sounded like a pissed off hornet.

Another one I wouldn't mind having is one of those mid-late 80's Toyota Supras with the infamous "500" mod setups, you know the ones.

If I wanted something out of the box, good to go stock ?
(go ahead and laugh)
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4

It's massive, it's UGLY, and heavy as the burden of sin while lacking any real style or subtlety, kind of an in your face monster like the muscle cars of old, which is prolly why I like it.

Ironically, while all the fanbois cream their jeans to the Skyline or 350Z, the only Nissan I ever wanted to drive was a 1989 March Super Turbo, cause of it's profound resemblence to one of my buddies beloved old Gremlin X.

EDIT: I just had to throw these in, for those who have no clue of the true badassery of the tiny little monster called the Gremlin X.

Damn I miss that car.

EDIT 2: Actually related one of the few times I got to drive it here, hehehe
http://fireflyfan.net/mthread.asp?b=11&t=35834

-Frem

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Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:22 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Some of these photographs appear to have been altered.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

"some"?

"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.

The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.

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Saturday, March 28, 2009 8:32 AM

KWICKO

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Mikey, if I had to pick, I'd go with the 1991 Honda CRX EDM 1.6i-VT - the one with that nasty lil 150-hp four banger in it, cherry bomb pipe, and bring the lil bitch to YOU for the ECU mods and transmission refit.

Also known (in the Asian & Australian markets) as the Si-R model. B16A engine, 1.6 liter DOHC, 160hp.

Actually, I've never done the engine swap, but I've sold a handful of those very same engines to some buddies who've done 'em. I never felt the need, since it's just as easy for me to do the Japanese-market "ZC" engine swap in a US-market CRX. That engine drops right in, uses the existing engine mounts, transmission, axles, and wiring (with a couple mods and a spliced wire here and there). It's good for about 130hp without mods, and that's the transmission that's easiest and cheapest to do the mods on as well - there are a LOT of different transmissions to choose from that fit the D-series engine family, so it's a matter of running the numbers and picking and choosing. And, of course, of tracking down the right transmissions to pick the gears from...

And I've run my transmission (mated to a wimpy 108hp US-spec Si engine, no less) up against one of those 160hp B-series CRXs. I didn't beat him, but he didn't beat me, either. He would start to pull away once he got into VTEC at high revs, but having shorter gearing let me get into the next gear earlier to keep the torque up. It was pretty funny, because we were just going along, both whipping our cars like rented mules, and staying dead even!

If there were ONE CRX I could find and import into the U.S., it would be either the Asia-market "CR-X Exclusive" model or the Asia-market Si-R model. Probably the Exclusive, because it truly is. Solid glass roof panel (not a sunroof - the entire roof panel is smoked glass), beige leather interior, automatic climate control, power windows, mirrors, and door locks, heated seats, cruise control, etc. Not one of those things was ever offered in the U.S., except as aftermarket accessories.

ETA: Worthless without pics!

http://www.shoden.org/images/cars/CRX/CRX_Exclusive_800.bmp

In those markets, the CRX wasn't viewed as a cheap economy car, but rather as an inexpensive and sporty small luxury coupe. Hell, they even had back seats! (and no, I can't imagine hating anyone enough to put them in the back seat of a CRX, especially if I'm driving it!)

Oh, and the key to getting anywhere quick with a Honda? Keep the revs up. Honda engines don't even wake up 'til you hit at least 4000rpm.

Okay, enough of the threadjack. Back to the 'roids. ('Course, it could be argued that what I've been talking about is nothing more than Hondas on steroids...)

\m/

I'm something of a ne'er-do-well
even though that's something I could never do well...

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Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:31 PM

KWICKO

YOWZA! Honda may have picked the wrong year to quit Formula One. Their cars have been terrible for a couple of years - last year was atrocious for them. Midway through the season last year, Honda gave up on their then-current car and decided to concentrate all of their efforts on the 2009 model. As such, that car has had more development time than any other car in the series - and during winter practice, Honda announced they were walking away from F1, leaving the team nowhere to go.

Somehow, team manager Ross Brawn (who engineered Ferrari's dominance when he brought his client Michael Schumacher to the Scuderia) found the financing to buy the Honda team outright, although with Honda pulling out, there was no engine supply. So Brawn had the team, the drivers, and a damn good chassis, but no engines - until he struck a deal with the current Constructor's Champion, Mercedes-Benz.

So the team that Honda COULD HAVE had is now known as Brawn GP, with engines by Mercedes. And as the 2009 F1 season starts, they just qualified 1-2 in their debut, a feat not seen in F1 since Jackie Stewart put a March Gran Prix car on the pole in its first race in 1970.

In a sport that's been dominated by a few automakers for the last several years (Mercedes, BMW, Ferrari, Toyota, and Honda are the big players, each spending upwards of $500 million per year to run 17 races), it's shockingly refreshing to see a team owned by an engineer and racer grab the top spot - even if it's only for a little while. It'll be interesting to see how the cars shake out, and whether they can continue development before the others catch up to them.

\m/

I'm something of a ne'er-do-well
even though that's something I could never do well...

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