Gorilla is Mrs. O's ancestor, activist jokes by NewOldBrownCoat

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Wait - where's the outrage from the right?

Surely you can't defend calling Sasha and Malia's mama a gorilla, can you? How can you defend saying such things about these young girls' mother?

Will you join Whozit in calling for this man to be fired at least, if not killed?

C'mon! This isn't even a partisan issue, is it?

Mike

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Monday, June 15, 2009 8:02 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

heheheheheh

Awww, why do the Libbys get their panties in a bunch over stuff like this?

Yeah, it was a stupid comment, but for Gods sake, when isnt what a politician says stupid?

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Monday, June 15, 2009 8:14 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Maybe we should cut their tongues out when they take the oath of office.

Wouldn't stop em from being stupid, but at least we wouldn't have to listen to it.

Then again, I still favor the collar & button strategy, believe me, LESS stupid shit would get said, especially since the next "bailout" would make Washington look like a what happens when you press the destruct button in Lemmings.

"Oh Noes!" *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* *pop* ...

-F

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Monday, June 15, 2009 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
heheheheheh

Awww, why do the Libbys get their panties in a bunch over stuff like this?

Yeah, it was a stupid comment, but for Gods sake, when isnt what a politician says stupid?

Wulfie, I take it you haven't been keeping up. Seems it was those on the right, not "the Libbys" (is that Scooter's family?) who got their panties in a bunch over an innocent comment made by David Letterman. I'm just wondering where the outrage is over THIS comment.

I'm guessing the people who were calling for Letterman to be fired and/or killed are probably going to stand up for free speech on this one.

Prove me wrong, folks! Prove me wrong!

Mike

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Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:53 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Seems it was those on the right, not "the Libbys" (is that Scooter's family?) who got their panties in a bunch over an innocent comment made by David Letterman. I'm just wondering where the outrage is over THIS comment.

I'm guessing the people who were calling for Letterman to be fired and/or killed are probably going to stand up for free speech on this one.

And I'm really impressed with how the "liberally biased media" covered BOTH sides of the Letterman story, but have let this one, where they could beaten up an a WHITE, CONSERVATIVE, SOUTHERN REPUBLICAN, get away completely. The only links I could find to the story were from small-town Southern newspapers. Wanta bet the implied tone of the stories was, " You tell 'em, Bubba."?

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Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:28 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Wait - where's the outrage from the right?

Wait(Searches pockets)...Here's some (brushes off the lent):

I feel great concern and disgust for this comment. It is stupid on SO many levels. Its facially racist, which in the 21st Century is the height of stupidity (just ask a certain Supreme Court nominee). A person having those views has every right to express them, he has no business holding office or representing Conservative Republican values.

A lot of people run down conservatives on race issues, but we, as a group, in this 21st Century look with pride on the first Republican President, Abe Lincoln. We honor the fallen who served then and now to preserve the union and keep us free. We do not believe mankind descended from apes, we do believe that all men are created equal and that Kelly Monaco is the hottest woman alive (ok, thats my belief, but the point is men, equal, women, equal, puppies, and hot women, its all a matter of taste and getting licked on the face).

We cannot control who wears the label of our party any more then Democrats can control some of their radical knuckleheads. I will say that as a Republican, I feel that his comment was stupid, racist, and he should be fired from whatever political position or public service job he holds.

Unlike Palin, who never suggested that her daughters be raped, Michelle Obama did make the gorilla comment that sparked this...but she did it in a discussion of evolution. Since I believe in both the bible AND evolution and do not find them incompatable, I suggest that such discussions in the scientific, religeous, or educational setting are appropriate. But a person should not be belittled for their belief.

I note for the record that he is a former GOP county chairman...former county chairmen, regardless of state or party are notorious for stupid comments. Former and clearly for good reason.

So fire him...hell its South Carolina...string the bastard up, no wait...some folks get offended when we hangs white folks round there...better yet, anybody got some tar?

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:49 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

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Originally posted by Hero:

We cannot control who wears the label of our party

Seems like Cheney, Rove and Limbaugh tried to when his name was Colin Powell. I don't see them trying to run Rusty out of town.

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Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:53 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

As posted by Hero- ( I messed up the editing.)

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So fire him...hell its South Carolina...string the bastard up, no wait...some folks get offended when we hangs white folks round there...better yet, anybody got some tar?

Personally , if I lived anywhere near South Carolina ( It is a LONG walk from California.), I'd be willing to meet any person who insulted the First Lady of The United States, at high noon on Main Street with a horsewhip in my hand. Or at dawn at Kaytree Pond, with sword...

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Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:10 AM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Or at dawn at Kaytree Pond, with sword...

Pistols at dawn. You, your second, him, his second. I, the respectable country lawyer, could act as the moderator and declare in my best drawl "honor is satisfied, y'all".

He'd shoot and miss, then cower as you took aim. Then you'd shoot into the air proving your the better man (or shoot him in the leg...cause your just 'ok').

Then lemonade and fried chicken for all...look away, look away and all that.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:52 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Its so funny how Liberals claim to be the voice of black folks.

1. Gun control: Libbys realized after the war that they had opened Pandoras box, and now would have lots of black people living next door to them in the North. So what was their answer? Gun control. Keep them out of the hands of blacks.

2. Affirmative action, PC, and all the rest. Cleverly disguised means to keep blacks and minorities in their place. And away from them.

At least Republicans were open with their disgust. Now, the Reububs are trying like gangbusters to recruit them "little people" into their ranks.

Libbys hands are just as dirty, if not more so, than Repubs.

Is it any wonder I hate both parties, and vote Libertarian?

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Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:01 AM

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Is it any wonder I hate both parties, and vote Libertarian?

Do you really?

Well that's 2 votes down, 299,999,998 to go.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:36 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

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Originally posted by Hero:

A lot of people run down conservatives on race issues, but we, as a group, in this 21st Century look with pride on the first Republican President, Abe Lincoln. We honor the fallen who served then and now to preserve the union and keep us free. We do not believe mankind descended from apes, we do believe that all men are created equal and that Kelly Monaco is the hottest woman alive (ok, thats my belief, but the point is men, equal, women, equal, puppies, and hot women, its all a matter of taste and getting licked on the face).

We cannot control who wears the label of our party any more then Democrats can control some of their radical knuckleheads. I will say that as a Republican, I feel that his comment was stupid, racist, and he should be fired from whatever political position or public service job he holds.

H

"...Judge Douglas has said to you that he has not been able to get from me an answer to the question whether I am in favor of negro-citizenship. So far as I know, the Judge never asked me the question before. [Applause.] He shall have no occasion to ever ask it again, for I tell him very frankly that I am not in favor of negro citizenship. [Renewed applause.] This furnishes me an occasion for saying a few words upon the subject. I mentioned in a certain speech of mine which has been printed, that the Supreme Court had decided that a negro could not possibly be made a citizen, and without saying what was my ground of complaint in regard to that, or whether I had any ground of complaint, Judge Douglas has from that thing manufactured nearly every thing that he ever says about my disposition to produce an equality between the negroes and the white people. [Laughter and applause.] If any one will read my speech, he will find I mentioned that as one of the points decided in the course of the Supreme Court opinions, but I did not state what objection I had to it. But Judge Douglas tells the people what my objection was when I did not tell them myself. [Loud applause and laughter.] Now my opinion is that the different States have the power to make a negro a citizen under the Constitution of the United States if they choose. The Dred Scott decision decides that they have not that power. If the State of Illinois had the power I should be opposed to the exercise of it. [Cries of 'good,' 'good,' and applause.] That is all I have to say about it." --Abraham Lincoln

Not exactly a spotless record with regard to blacks in particular , or toward civil rights generally...

Perhaps "Hero's" uninformed 'pride' is misplaced...

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 7:58 AM

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We honor the fallen who served then and now to preserve the union and keep us free.

And then you dishonor them by quoting "Dixie" ("Look away, look away...")

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by out2theblack:
Perhaps "Hero's" uninformed 'pride' is misplaced...

He freed the slaves and preserved the Union made a top hat look stylish, and said more about the nature of America during his two minute speech in Gettysburg then the Democrats have ever done.

I think my admiration for Lincoln is well placed.

Edited to add: Lincoln is correct, prior to the 14th Amendment and the Equal Protection Clause Negro citizenship was NOT a Constitutional issue. Lincoln's victory in war and tragic murder was part of the reason the Amendments he so favored, 13th and 14th, passed.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And then you dishonor them by quoting "Dixie" ("Look away, look away...")

I'm a proud American...from the South, my Great Uncle fought in Vietnam, Korea, AND WW2, my great, etc, great grandfather fought in a Virginia Cavalry regiment to free the slaves (Western Virginia that is, Honey in the Rock and all that).

I note for the record that every soldier who died in the Civil War (War of Northern Aggression) was an American (even the Irish and free blacks).

"You call yourselves Americans,
but you're really transplanted Englishmen. Look at your names, Lee, Hood, Longstreet, Jackson, Stuart...

Longstreet: My people were Dutch.

And the same for your adversaries.
Meade, Hooker, Hancock, and...
shall I say? Lincoln.

The same God. Same language.
Same culture and history.

The same songs, stories, legends, myths.

But different dreams."

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by Hero:
"You call yourselves Americans,
but you're really transplanted Englishmen. Look at your names, Lee, Hood, Longstreet, Jackson, Stuart...

Longstreet: My people were Dutch.

And the same for your adversaries.
Meade, Hooker, Hancock, and...
shall I say? Lincoln.

The same God. Same language.
Same culture and history.

The same songs, stories, legends, myths.

But different dreams."

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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:17 PM

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I note for the record that every soldier who died in the Civil War (War of Northern Aggression) was an American (even the Irish and free blacks).

No they weren't. The Union were Americans. The Confederates were Confederates. They LEFT the Union, remember? They QUIT the United States of America and formed their own nation.

Mike

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 4:58 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
No they weren't. The Union were Americans. The Confederates were Confederates. They LEFT the Union, remember? They QUIT the United States of America and formed their own nation.

That nation was the Confederate States of America. America...kind of a common theme.

Besides, they never left the union. The whole point of the Civil War was that you can't just "quit" the Union.

Lets not get into an argument of the nature and legality of seccession. Some see it as legal, some don't, both have good arguments, and yes, Lincoln arrested the Southern sympathetic Supreme Court before the issue could be brought before it. Legally the Civil War decided the issue, you can't leave the Union. I have always argued the central position, only States with pre-existing sovereignty could leave, Texas + the original 13 colonies and maybe Hawaii...any other state could leave the union but in doing so would revert to their pre statehood status as unincorporated US territories.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:17 AM

BADKARMA00

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

I note for the record that every soldier who died in the Civil War (War of Northern Aggression) was an American (even the Irish and free blacks).

No they weren't. The Union were Americans. The Confederates were Confederates. They LEFT the Union, remember? They QUIT the United States of America and formed their own nation.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Confederate States of America, dude. They were still Americans. And, outside the radical 'you ain't takin' our slaves' crowd, who were actually a minority, the Confederate States actually held the Constitution more dear than the Union did, that being a prime mover in the secession movement.

States rights were the real issue. Slavery was the catalyst. Had we had no slavery, it would have simply been something else. Remember the Constitution says that all rights not expressly given the Federal Government are reserved to the states.

That was the issue for the 90+% of Confederates who didn't own slaves anyway.

As to Lincoln, remember that the emancipation proclamation only freed the slaves in the 'rebellious cotton states' and not in loyal union states such as Maryland etc. That took an amendment to the constitution.

Bad_karma
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Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:26 AM

The America part comes from the continent not the country. By that usage saying they're Americans is the same as saying Mexicans or Canadians are Americans. Trying to palm off America as in the continent and America as in the shortened form of United States of, is little more than equivocation.

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:33 AM

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That nation was the Confederate States of America. America...kind of a common theme.

Then Citizen could just as reasonably make a case that we Americans are all really just "English" still. After all, what language do we speak? ENGLISH. Get it? Kind of a common theme...

Is that what you're saying?

And yes, you bunch of traitorous rebel scum DID abandon America, so are no longer "Americans", but rather a bunch of rebel scum. :) It's one more reason most of you aren't allowed to fly your stupid rebel flags - because YOU LOST.

[/poking the hornets' nest]

Mike

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:33 AM

RIVERLOVE

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Originally posted by citizen:
The America part comes from the continent not the country. By that usage saying they're Americans is the same as saying Mexicans or Canadians are Americans. Trying to palm off America as in the continent and America as in the shortened form of United States of, is little more than equivocation.

Right, taken from the name of the great explorer Amerigo Vespucci. Good thing they used his first name, otherwise we'd be Vespuccians living in The United States of Vespucci. Actually, it does has a nice ring to it.

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:47 AM

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
Right, taken from the name of the great explorer Amerigo Vespucci. Good thing they used his first name, otherwise we'd be Vespuccians living in The United States of Vespucci. Actually, it does has a nice ring to it.

Sounds like an STD.

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 6:33 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

www.CelebrityApes.com

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"Obama is a radical Communist, and that's becoming clear. That's what I told people in Illinois and now everybody realizes it's true. He's going to destroy this country, and we're either going to stop him, or the United States of America is going to cease to exist. The man is an abomination. He is someone who has actually advocated infanticide, that when babies are the target of abortion, if they happen to escape the abortionists' intention, and are born alive, he actually supported the idea that those babies should be set aside to die. That's a man with such a seared conscience I can't even understand why anybody in their right mind would consider him worthy of political support. That is a violation of conscience that is inconceivable. And even some of the most hardline pro-abortion people in America rejected that abomination, and he did not. Is he president of the United States? According to the Constitution, in order to be eligible for president you must be a natural-born citizen. He has refused to provide proof that he is a natural-born citizen. And his Kenyan relatives say he was born in Nirobi at a time when his mother was too young to transmit US citizenship. So I'm not even sure he's president of the United States. No, it's not a laughing matter. Neither are many of our military people now, who are going to court to ask the question, 'Do we have to obey a man who is not qualified under the Constitution?' We are in the middle of the greatest crisis this nation has ever seen. And if we don't stop laughing about it and deal with it, we are going to find ourselves in the midst of chaos, confusion and Civil War. It's time we started acting like grownups. The person you call 'President Obama' -- and I quite frankly refuse to call him that -- at the moment he is kind of somebody who is an alleged usurper -- who is alleged to be someone who is occupying that office without constitutional warrant to do so. And he's rushing forward with ideas like destroying our borders, and an amnesty bill that will actually have the American taxpayer footing the bill for illegals to come to this country to live, to get housing and to get everything they want. He's also somebody who announced the program to essentially destroy the validity of existing mortgages, and to encourage everybody in the country to stop paying their mortgage, because the government is going to pay it instead. This is insanity. It's as if we have put insane children and adolescents in charge of our government. Have people gone mad in this country? We are claiming that a bankrupt government can save a bankrupt banking system. Explain to me how that happens? Because I think that's impossible. And the fact that we have just elected an individual who may or may not be qualified, and he presents silly ideas like this and says 'Let's move forward now.' And we're all acting like the laws of economics have been repealed, and we can actually afford to foot the bill with money nobody's got. This is insane. It's got to lead to the collapse of our economy, and it's going to."
-Ambassador Alan Keyes PhD, American-African candidate for president for America's Independent Party, November 2008 (Keye's father was a US Army sergeant in the Vietnam War, Keye's wife is a citizen of India, and his daughter is a lesbian)
www.archive.org/details/ObamaInauguralMashup/
http://loyaltoliberty.blogspot.com
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1
http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com

Bill "Clinton" Blythe III is a ba$tard Rockefeller (trillionaire jew)
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:kwLbY705ILAJ:www.book-of-thoth.com
/archives-printpdf-7895.html+bill+clinton+winthrop+rockefeller+Sherman+H.+Skolnick&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/bc42.html

George W Bush's grandfather was Alester "The Beast 666" Crowley
www.rense.com/general77/acrow.htm

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:56 AM

ELVISCHRIST

Hey, here's "award-winning" PirateNoose in his high school yearbook:

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 8:12 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:
Originally posted by out2theblack:
Perhaps "Hero's" uninformed 'pride' is misplaced...

He freed the slaves and preserved the Union made a top hat look stylish, and said more about the nature of America during his two minute speech in Gettysburg then the Democrats have ever done.

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything." --Abraham Lincoln
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/abraham_lincoln_quote_c318

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:

I think my admiration for Lincoln is well placed.

Edited to add: Lincoln is correct, prior to the 14th Amendment and the Equal Protection Clause Negro citizenship was NOT a Constitutional issue. Lincoln's victory in war and tragic murder was part of the reason the Amendments he so favored, 13th and 14th, passed.

H

Well, okay , if you say so...

Guess it was the stylish 'top' hat that made all the difference, being that he considered himself the top in the relationship to the black folk...

As has already been pointed out, he tread over States' Rights and Sovereignty, and freed other peoples' slaves, not those in servitude in the Northern states...

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 1:19 PM

BADKARMA00

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

That nation was the Confederate States of America. America...kind of a common theme.

Then Citizen could just as reasonably make a case that we Americans are all really just "English" still. After all, what language do we speak? ENGLISH. Get it? Kind of a common theme...

Is that what you're saying?

And yes, you bunch of traitorous rebel scum DID abandon America, so are no longer "Americans", but rather a bunch of rebel scum. :) It's one more reason most of you aren't allowed to fly your stupid rebel flags - because YOU LOST.

[/poking the hornets' nest]

Mike

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Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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It's a Confederate Flag, and I fly mine all the time,

(poking back, lol)

Bad_karma
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Thursday, June 18, 2009 2:15 PM

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Originally posted by badkarma00:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

That nation was the Confederate States of America. America...kind of a common theme.

Then Citizen could just as reasonably make a case that we Americans are all really just "English" still. After all, what language do we speak? ENGLISH. Get it? Kind of a common theme...

Is that what you're saying?

And yes, you bunch of traitorous rebel scum DID abandon America, so are no longer "Americans", but rather a bunch of rebel scum. :) It's one more reason most of you aren't allowed to fly your stupid rebel flags - because YOU LOST.

[/poking the hornets' nest]

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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It's a Confederate Flag, and I fly mine all the time, (poking back, lol)

Bad_karma
Great and Exalted Grand Pooba, International Brotherhood of Moonshiners, Rednecks, and Good Old Boys.

BK, you're all right. You've got a sense of humor about it, at least. As someone once said, "War's long over; we're all just folk now."

Mike

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:56 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Hero.

You don't believe mankind is descended from apes? I thought that was evolution - have I missed something?

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Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:22 PM

BADKARMA00

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by badkarma00:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

That nation was the Confederate States of America. America...kind of a common theme.

Then Citizen could just as reasonably make a case that we Americans are all really just "English" still. After all, what language do we speak? ENGLISH. Get it? Kind of a common theme...

Is that what you're saying?

And yes, you bunch of traitorous rebel scum DID abandon America, so are no longer "Americans", but rather a bunch of rebel scum. :) It's one more reason most of you aren't allowed to fly your stupid rebel flags - because YOU LOST.

[/poking the hornets' nest]

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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It's a Confederate Flag, and I fly mine all the time, (poking back, lol)

Bad_karma
Great and Exalted Grand Pooba, International Brotherhood of Moonshiners, Rednecks, and Good Old Boys.

BK, you're all right. You've got a sense of humor about it, at least. As someone once said, "War's long over; we're all just folk now."

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Thanks. The way I see it, if I want the right to speak my mind, and have my opinions, I have to extend that to everyone else.

To me, that's the beauty of America. I don't have to like what someone says, and I don't have to agree with it. Same goes for them. They don't have to see things the way I do.

That's freedom.

Bad_karma
Great and Exalted Grand Pooba, International Brotherhood of Moonshiners, Rednecks, and Good Old Boys.

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Friday, June 19, 2009 1:38 AM

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To me, that's the beauty of America. I don't have to like what someone says, and I don't have to agree with it. Same goes for them. They don't have to see things the way I do.

And of course, don't forget that you also have the right to LAUGH YOUR ASS OFF at their beliefs and opinions. That really tends to rankle some folk.

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Friday, June 19, 2009 4:35 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I'm just wondering where the outrage is over THIS comment.

I'm guessing the people who were calling for Letterman to be fired and/or killed are probably going to stand up for free speech on this one.

Prove me wrong, folks! Prove me wrong!

I'm pretty sure Hero did just that but I guess you would rather shift the goalposts than admit to it.
But in the same vein as the Letterman thread let us play some role reversal.
He did not mean what he said, the intent was to be evolutionary not racist.
Where was all the outrage when 'x' democrat said something racist about 'y' republican. Etc, etc, etc.
ETA: Why are we even talking about this? Aren't there more important matters to be going after the Republicans about?

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Friday, June 19, 2009 4:49 AM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
You don't believe mankind is descended from apes? I thought that was evolution - have I missed something?

I believe in evolution, the fossil record supports it. I do not believe in evolution, but I do not rule out that man and ape are related, and even religeous types will agree that while we do not have a common ancestor...we do have a common creator.

Some of you think that your decended from apes...some of you think that I'm decended from an ape. But nobody of right mind can believe that Robert E. Lee was decended from an ape.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Friday, June 19, 2009 5:23 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything." --Abraham Lincoln

Spoken like a true Rothschild jew.
www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/rothschild.htm
www.nytimes.com/1983/04/05/obituaries/lincoln-rothschild-80-dies-artis
t-author-and-a-teacher.html

Honest Abe and Adolf Hitler were cousins.
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/hitler_was_a_rothschild.htm

Obama's German blood
www.bignewsday.com/story.asp?code=DY560075U&news=obamas_german_roots

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Friday, June 19, 2009 6:07 AM

RIPWASH

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Wait - where's the outrage from the right?

Surely you can't defend calling Sasha and Malia's mama a gorilla, can you? How can you defend saying such things about these young girls' mother?

Will you join Whozit in calling for this man to be fired at least, if not killed?

C'mon! This isn't even a partisan issue, is it?

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

Jumping in late here, but YES!! That so-called joke was in extremely poor taste. The guy needs to give a more sincere apology and step down from his post . . . post-haste. Totally uncalled for.

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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"

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Friday, June 19, 2009 7:54 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I'm just wondering where the outrage is over THIS comment.

I'm guessing the people who were calling for Letterman to be fired and/or killed are probably going to stand up for free speech on this one.

Prove me wrong, folks! Prove me wrong!

I'm pretty sure Hero did just that but I guess you would rather shift the goalposts than admit to it.

Actually, wasn't Hero one of the FEW who WASN'T calling for Letterman to be fired, killed, lynched, or contract "penile cancer"?

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But in the same vein as the Letterman thread let us play some role reversal.

Oh, let's!

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He did not mean what he said, the intent was to be evolutionary not racist.

Not possible. He doesn't believe in evolution.

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Where was all the outrage when 'x' democrat said something racist about 'y' republican. Etc, etc, etc.

Can you give me some examples?

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ETA: Why are we even talking about this? Aren't there more important matters to be going after the Republicans about?

Probably, but they're doing such a good job destroying themselves that it's kinda fun to just jump in on a "nothing" issue like a tasteless joke. I mean, honestly, what was that whole Letterman thing about anyway? Didn't we have more important things to deal with?

See how I just played that whole role-reversal game you wanted to play earlier? ;)

Mike

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Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Friday, June 19, 2009 7:58 AM

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Originally posted by RIPWash:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Wait - where's the outrage from the right?

Surely you can't defend calling Sasha and Malia's mama a gorilla, can you? How can you defend saying such things about these young girls' mother?

Will you join Whozit in calling for this man to be fired at least, if not killed?

C'mon! This isn't even a partisan issue, is it?

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

Jumping in late here, but YES!! That so-called joke was in extremely poor taste. The guy needs to give a more sincere apology and step down from his post . . . post-haste. Totally uncalled for.

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"It's okay! I'm a leaf on the wind!!!"
"What does that mean?!?!?!"

Thanks for that, Rip. Now THAT is the kind of non-partisanship I'm talking about!

Oh, and John Edwards is still a douchebag. That has nothing to do with anything, but I notice he's trying to "clean up" his image and possibly make a comeback. Not gonna happen, as far as I'm concerned. He not only betrayed his wife (which is between him and her), but he lied to his staff, he had his staff lie to US, and he quite probably paid hush-money to try to keep it all covered up. If he were any sleazier, he'd be Newt Gingrich or John Ensign!

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Friday, June 19, 2009 8:17 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Lets end the debate.

Man is descended from apes.

Some groups (races) are not as evolved as others, and are more CLOSLEY descended from the animals.

Fair enough?

(hehehe)

C'mon! Lets all go BANANAS!!!

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Friday, June 19, 2009 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by Hero:
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
You don't believe mankind is descended from apes? I thought that was evolution - have I missed something?

I believe in evolution, the fossil record supports it. I do not believe in evolution, but I do not rule out that man and ape are related, and even religeous types will agree that while we do not have a common ancestor...we do have a common creator.

Some of you think that your decended from apes...some of you think that I'm decended from an ape. But nobody of right mind can believe that Robert E. Lee was decended from an ape.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

Wow, talk about a flip-flop! You believe in evolution, but you don't believe in evolution. Tell us, barrister, were you for it before you were against it, or was it the other way 'round?

I don't think we're "descended" from apes - I think we're offshoots of a common ancestor. No "creator" is needed for this to make sense.

And I believe that Robert E. Lee lost the war and surrendered. That would make him a "loser". And his descendents are the descendents of a "loser" and a traitorous rebel scum.

Mike

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Friday, June 19, 2009 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Lets end the debate.

Man is descended from apes.

Some groups (races) are not as evolved as others, and are more CLOSLEY descended from the animals.

Fair enough?

(hehehe)

C'mon! Lets all go BANANAS!!!

I can only assume you mean yourself when you talk about being not quite as evolved.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Friday, June 19, 2009 10:39 AM

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg

Yeah Kwick. I mean that.

Cus guess what?

You can drop down the evolutionary ladder, if you live the life bad enough.

In other words, culture play a big part of how you turn out and are perceived.

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Friday, June 19, 2009 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Wow, talk about a flip-flop! You believe in evolution, but you don't believe in evolution. Tell us, barrister, were you for it before you were against it, or was it the other way 'round?

One is an matter of science, the other is faith, I simply refuse to choose one over the other and instead I choose to believe that one prooves the other, we just have yet to figure it all out.

Kinda like abortion. I'm pro life. As a lawyer I accept the legal reasoning of Roe v. Wade and that absent other interests, a woman should have control of her own body. That said a woman's right to choose is trumped by the State's interest...per Roe v. Wade.

Another example is Joe Lieberman, a Democrat who supports the war on terror.

No reason to pick one to the exclusion of the other if they can be mutually supporting.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Friday, June 19, 2009 2:55 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Okay, so I'm still confused, because I think you have to agree that live evolves, or you don't. Acknowledging evolution does not necessarily conflict with some people's religious beliefs, because they still see that all life has evolved, but they believe in the ultimate creator ie the one that started the whole thing off.

Then there are those who don't believe in evolution (despite all supporting evidence) and believe in creationism. Mankind was placed on this earth 4000 years ago, and plonked down into the garden of eden.

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Friday, June 19, 2009 5:10 PM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Okay, so I'm still confused, because I think you have to agree that live evolves, or you don't. Acknowledging evolution does not necessarily conflict with some people's religious beliefs, because they still see that all life has evolved, but they believe in the ultimate creator ie the one that started the whole thing off.

Then there are those who don't believe in evolution (despite all supporting evidence) and believe in creationism. Mankind was placed on this earth 4000 years ago, and plonked down into the garden of eden.

With the dinosaurs.

Mike

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Friday, June 19, 2009 6:56 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Of course, don't you watch TV Mikey ?

-F

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Friday, June 19, 2009 11:46 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
One is an matter of science, the other is faith, I simply refuse to choose one over the other and instead I choose to believe that one prooves the other, we just have yet to figure it all out.

Actually it's insanely bloody easy to equate the two if you want to, rather than just declaring science heresy and attempting to silence the heretics I mean.

Lets take Christianity as an example. God, apparently is omnipotent. So there's no reason why this omnipotent entity could have created an entirely self consistent universe with laws that would eventually throw up the Human species. Being Omnipotent God should even be able to tell you when that would happen before the event. To say God needed to forever dabble in the evolutionary process like some 'intelligent designer', you're basically saying God isn't omnipotent, you're saying that God is an ignorant chump that can't see the consequences of 'its' actions a few measly million years from now. One of the things that makes me laugh about intelligent design actually, it's a bunch of Christian fanatics that hate science, and their own God, like Catholics who basically mourn their faith

.

The other thing one would have to remember, is that a large amount of the Bible is allegory, that is parables to teach a concept, not literal recounting of events. Of course apparently much of the bible being parable seems to be a concept beyond the mental capacities of some Christians.

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